General Discussion Thread

[Hooked]

I find it funny that the Foxtel promo for the final series, has Souffs and Mitchell Moses in it.

 

[Iamback]

I find it funny that the Foxtel promo for the final series, has Souffs and Mitchell Moses in it.

Gotta have something for the Fox execs to flog themselves over

 

[martielang]

f**k I love James Graham what a gun bloke. Just tore Buzz to pieces on 360.

I like James Graham too, but I thought Buzz was much clearer and I reckon he got the points.

Graham wasn't helped by Tallis dribbling absolute patronizing shite like 'It's OK if the NRL isn't for you' like a f**king Year 5 kid at school. Tallis is an absolute knuckle-dragger, how he is anywhere near the media just blows my mind.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Can’t stand Kent. He’s happily written stories and spread rumours about our players and many others. For that reason o hope he never comes back.

That said, he deserves his day in court and that case should not be effected by social media or anything else.

 

[WestyLife]

As with all of these things.

If the shoe was on the other foot, You wouldn't want a fair go?

Treat other people how you want to be treated is the golden rule.

 

[Iamback]

Treat other people how you want to be treated is the golden rule.

Yes but do you think he says stuff without permission of producers and lawyers?

as Kilkenny said, His role is to drum up hate but without being sued etc

Put it this way. Has the show got any nicer with him gone from it?

 

[Iamback]

Can’t stand Kent. He’s happily written stories and spread rumours about our players and many others. For that reason o hope he never comes back.

That said, he deserves his day in court and that case should not be effected by social media or anything else.

Those articles go through editors though.

Says more about the scumbag organisation than any particular journo

 

[MugaB]

Can’t stand Kent. He’s happily written stories and spread rumours about our players and many others. For that reason o hope he never comes back.

That said, he deserves his day in court and that case should not be effected by social media or anything else.

You know kent wasn't too bad with penrith players until that day we started carrying on against the raiders a few years back, then it was a free for all with the journos calling us arrogant, then the smug shit... just snowballed into the hate we get from him an that channel...
But if you look at this season since he has turfed from fox, for his court case.. the precious broncos are the young athletes on the rise, and THEY CARRY THAT SWAGGER!!! f**k me dead, i keep hearing the same shit over and over, the broncos and their swagger, whilst penrith are still the benchmark, but their arrogant, coz rapana the raider grub couldn't handle a bit if a laugh

 

[Iamback]

I like James Graham too, but I thought Buzz was much clearer and I reckon he got the points.

Graham wasn't helped by Tallis dribbling absolute patronizing shite like 'It's OK if the NRL isn't for you' like a f**king Year 5 kid at school. Tallis is an absolute knuckle-dragger, how he is anywhere near the media just blows my mind.

That is my take on it

Do we know the unknowm player is even a rookie?

He might know FG well

As for Davey. He played under Des and at Parra that was a reasonable team. So has a bit more weight behind him

 

[Chins get the wins]

Yes but do you think he says stuff without permission of producers and lawyers?

as Kilkenny said, His role is to drum up hate but without being sued etc

Put it this way. Has the show got any nicer with him gone from it?

Yeah Bwaith and Gordy are decent blokes but any segment with Newscorp scum is always going to be the same dribble

 

[MugaB]

Yeah Bwaith and Gordy are decent blokes but any segment with Newscorp scum is always going to be the same dribble

Gordy hate us... massive hate, always sneaking in sly jokes or nods to us being arrogant or cheating, even last night couldn't admit that this team, if we win the GF will be the greatest team ever, as parra won last 3 back2back in an uncapped comp

 

[Iamback]

Yeah Bwaith and Gordy are decent blokes but any segment with Newscorp scum is always going to be the same dribble

Yep. There is a reason why Chammas is the only one us and Tigers speak too

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Yeah just like he afforded that same right to other players.

That fact doesn't mean you must respond the same way. I live by the adage. Treat others how you want to be treated.

Works well I believe.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Short of it going down a similar path to the Josh Reynolds accusations where it was proven he was innocent and it was a complete fabrication by a lunatic, I see no way back for Kent. Probably get away with print media if he gets off, but the TV days would be done.

Whatever happens they need to replace Tallis, he did a pretty good job for a few weeks, but as full time gig he hasn't got it imo. Not sure who you replace him with. Possibly Cronk, but he is too nice, you need to have that ability to dish out criticism when it's warranted. Anasta is actually good now, I think he is even better than Ikin was, cant see Gordie getting to that level though.

As long as it's not Hoops. Shudders....

Yeah; I can’t see how Kent comes back. His go to is outrage, and that will wear thin very quickly with the black cloud over his head.

After last night could see Graham getting the gig; he was just the right type of stoopid last night..

 

[Pomoz]

I like James Graham too, but I thought Buzz was much clearer and I reckon he got the points.

Graham wasn't helped by Tallis dribbling absolute patronizing shite like 'It's OK if the NRL isn't for you' like a f**king Year 5 kid at school. Tallis is an absolute knuckle-dragger, how he is anywhere near the media just blows my mind.

Got the points? Hmm, not sure about that. His point that if Graham attacks a player who says something in the media, it will stop other players speaking out, is ludicrous. If you speak to a journalist about a club you were in, criticising them and making negative comments then you must expect to have your version analysed and refuted if people disagree with what was said. Graham is perfectly entitled to say what he did. It was argued it was "personal" about Davey, but Davey said he didn't get on with Ciraldo or like the culture, or coaching methods. Isn't that a personal comment as well?

I also disagree about Tallis's comments (agree he is a knuckle dragger though!). As Graham said "nobody forces you to play football, nobody forces you to take the punishment". Tallis is right, football isn't for everybody and many people just aren't physically or mentally strong enough to play in the NRL. It doesn't make them a bad person. But to be good at NRL level you must be able to endure pain, physical stress and pressure. Training has to try and replicate that so when you are in an actual game you can handle what happens. Many people just won't be able to cope.

If the Dogs had a plethora of people having mental health issues then it would be valid to look at whether they have a particular issue, but as far as I am aware, they don't. Furthermore, a raft of ex players have said the punishment is not that unusual, not that hard and is part of being an NRL player. Alex McKinnon being the latest to make such a comment. In fact he said that amount of wrestling was standard fare at the Knights in just about every session.

It is unfortunate for the player and I wish him all the best and a speedy recovery. However, the fact he has an unfortunate illness, doesn't mean that it's because the Dogs are doing something wrong. He may just not be the right type of person to play in the NRL.

 

[martielang]

Davey had the balls to put his name to it, probably to help the smaller fish, but rather than arguing against his opinion or trying to get an understanding of his position, the Dogs are getting personal and trying to smear his name/reputation so his opinion becomes invalid. The Bulldogs have clearly gone on the offensive to control the narrative which most seem to be eating up. When was the last time multiple players from a club spoke up against their club or former club of employment? There's clearly a bigger issue than one player not enjoying wrestling or thinking training is too hard, despite what Gus wants to feed us.

Re; Tallis, he was 100% patronizing. He wasn't trying to make a genuine point like you have, he was trying to belittle the guy.

 

[Iamback]

Got the points? Hmm, not sure about that. His point that if Graham attacks a player who says something in the media, it will stop other players speaking out, is ludicrous. If you speak to a journalist about a club you were in, criticising them and making negative comments then you must expect to have your version analysed and refuted if people disagree with what was said. Graham is perfectly entitled to say what he did. It was argued it was "personal" about Davey, but Davey said he didn't get on with Ciraldo or like the culture, or coaching methods. Isn't that a personal comment as well?

I also disagree about Tallis's comments (agree he is a knuckle dragger though!). As Graham said "nobody forces you to play football, nobody forces you to take the punishment". Tallis is right, football isn't for everybody and many people just aren't physically or mentally strong enough to play in the NRL. It doesn't make them a bad person. But to be good at NRL level you must be able to endure pain, physical stress and pressure. Training has to try and replicate that so when you are in an actual game you can handle what happens. Many people just won't be able to cope.

If the Dogs had a plethora of people having mental health issues then it would be valid to look at whether they have a particular issue, but as far as I am aware, they don't. Furthermore, a raft of ex players have said the punishment is not that unusual, not that hard and is part of being an NRL player. Alex McKinnon being the latest to make such a comment. In fact he said that amount of wrestling was standard fare at the Knights in just about every session.

It is unfortunate for the player and I wish him all the best and a speedy recovery. However, the fact he has an unfortunate illness, doesn't mean that it's because the Dogs are doing something wrong. He may just not be the right type of person to play in the NRL.

Look at the high number of guys leaving.

Hell TPJ left $1.5m behind to leave the place, There are issues going on.

Davey very likely isn't alone and put his name to it, Isn't that better than un named sources like always happens?

 

[Iamback]

Davey had the balls to put his name to it, probably to help the smaller fish, but rather than arguing against his opinion or trying to get an understanding of his position, the Dogs are getting personal and trying to smear his name/reputation so his opinion becomes invalid. The Bulldogs have clearly gone on the offensive to control the narrative which most seem to be eating up. When was the last time multiple players from a club spoke up against their club or former club of employment? There's clearly a bigger issue than one player not enjoying wrestling or thinking training is too hard, despite what Gus wants to feed us.

Re; Tallis, he was 100% patronizing. He wasn't trying to make a genuine point like you have, he was trying to belittle the guy.

If Davey doesn't allow his name to be mentioned. It is an ex player giving it to the club.

Easy to dismiss as journo is making up shit, I hope more players do it. Then we can call out the shit when Journos spread it

 

[ColdWetPanther]

It became obvious where Rothfield was trying to take last night when he started asking ‘who recruited them?’ of Graham. This was always about Buzz getting into Gus.

 

[Fangs]

I think the Dogs stuff is a decent beat up from news limited.

Player turnover under Gus is nothing new. They are losing all the time so you can expect some players get disgruntled.