Gerrard VS Lampard

[Parra_Eels]

i still think its Gerrard. Terry is imo the better player at Chelsea and as people have said - he delivers in the big moments aka Olympiakos game last season. Also i thought Ballack was good at Leverkusen but I havent heard as much about him since hes been at Bayern.

 

[Mad Dogg]

Over the last three seasons, Lampard has outperformed Gerrard (I truly can't see how anybody can argue with this in the first two, although Gerrard has been a little better this season). However, I don't think anybody can dispute that Gerrard on his day is better than Lampard could ever be.

Gerrard's problem is quite simple - if things aren't going his way he gets easily frustrated, and his response more often than not is to start playing 'hollywood' passes that succeed once in a blue moon. He's got all the potential in the world, but until he learns to channel his drive and determination he'll forever be someone who could've been a great but got held back by his temper. The strange thing is that it seems like a 50/50 thing with him, he'll get frustrated in one game and get petulant and start making stupid long passes, then in the very next game he'll get frustrated again and will just take the game by the scruff of the neck and drive his team forward.

Personally, I think Gerrard is tailor made to join one of the big Italian clubs where they emphasis tactical decision-making; if he can improve in how he uses the ball he would be almost the complete player.

 

[borat]

What Cup finals are you talking about? Henry singlehandedly won Euro 2000 for France against Italy...they're in the CL final this year on the back of huge performances from him, he's been great for France over the past 2 years...everyone has their ups and downs but in big games TH has had more ups than downs.

Rubbish, How many years have Arsenal underperformed in the CL. How has Henry performed at World Cups, at Euro 2004? Euro 2000 he only scored 3 goals for the tournement and that was one of his better ones. In Cup finals and the World Cup they are tight matches with very tight defence. Henry doesn't get the room he normally needs and he isn't able to dominate. He is a tremendous player but doesn't have the all round skill of Gerard.

Lampard would not even be considered in Gerard's league if he wasn't playing at chelsea.

 

[Macca_]

Some interesting comments there Mad Dogg. All of which I completely agree with. Well put.

 

[Bumble]

Lampard would not even be considered in Gerard's league if he wasn't playing at chelsea.

Doubt it. I think if he was in a team that relied him on him so heavily like Gerrard is he would stand out more.

 

[Jackal Dog]

Gerrard but not by much, Lampard is a tad slower and probably isn't as dependable in a tight situation as Gerrard example being in the 2nd League of the CL vs Barca he was nowhere to be seen at the Nou Camp...
While Gerrard has turned it on in both the CL final and FA Cup final when it has been needed.

 

[Daza_06]

Gerrard but not by much, Lampard is a tad slower and probably isn't as dependable in a tight situation as Gerrard example being in the 2nd League of the CL vs Barca he was nowhere to be seen at the Nou Camp...
While Gerrard has turned it on in both the CL final and FA Cup final when it has been needed.

agree totally

 

[Moffo]

How about John Terry? Amazing player

 

[Munky]

He did have a great WC2002 and is a brilliant player IMO

Ballack in 2002 carried his mediocre club and country to the runners up spot in every competition they were entered in.

He took Bayer Leverkusen to the Champions League final single handedly aswell as Germany to the world cup final.

If he didn't get himself suspended he would have torn apart Brazil's leaky defence in the final.

 

[fat_mike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=misBljapfn8

Absolutely brilliant top 10 from stevie. olympiakos goal and commentary from andy gray still gives me shivers

 

[Foz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=misBljapfn8

Absolutely brilliant top 10 from stevie. olympiakos goal and commentary from andy gray still gives me shivers

Wonder what number Saturdays goal would come in?
Has to be near the top given the match situation as well.
Most players wish they could have scored just one of those goals.
He's his own highlights package.

 

[Risky_6]

I saw a poll for English fans on these 2 and who is the better player, this was after the C.L win last year for Liverpool.

70% of English fans do believe Lampard is the best player in England, Gerard had 18% with Joe Cole and Shaun Wright Phillips the rest.

 

[Macca_]

I saw a poll for English fans on these 2 and who is the better player, this was after the C.L win last year for Liverpool.

70% of English fans do believe Lampard is the best player in England, Gerard had 18% with Joe Cole and Shaun Wright Phillips the rest.

Yeah I read a similar thing on the Arsenal mailing list I am on a little while back. May have been that same poll.

 

[Bozo]

Lampard isn't fit to hold Gerrard's shin pads.

He grabs that Liverpool team by the scruff of the neck and spurs them on, not legend status just yet, however he is getting there.

 

[pantherz9103]

Steven Gerrard is better than Lampard. Lampard has a stronger team around him to help him look better.

Only Ronaldhino, Henry and maybe Schevchenko deserve higher ratings as world class players at the moment.

 

[pantherz9103]

Wonder what number Saturdays goal would come in?
Has to be near the top given the match situation as well.
Most players wish they could have scored just one of those goals.
He's his own highlights package.

His 90th minute strike v West Ham the other day would have to be either No 1 or 2. Surely No 1 in my opinion.

We were goooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrne before that.

I loved Martin Tyler's reaction to that goal. Simply 'Oh Oaaawww! stunning!'

Still the best English commentators IMO the Tyler / Gray combination.

Why can't rugby league commentators be as good as these two? :roll:

 

[Eddie.]

Lampard has been a more consisten player then Gerrard over the last few years. Lampard consistently scores more goals.

However when both are at their best, it is Gerrard easily. As evidenced in the FA Cup Final.

 

[fat_mike]

His 90th minute strike v West Ham the other day would have to be either No 1 or 2. Surely No 1 in my opinion.

We were goooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrne before that.

I loved Martin Tyler's reaction to that goal. Simply 'Oh Oaaawww! stunning!'

Still the best English commentators IMO the Tyler / Gray combination.

Why can't rugby league commentators be as good as these two? :roll:

tyler and gray are brilliant arent they. the just say and sum up all situation beautifully.

the olympiakos commentary was brillaint. gray screaming what a hit!!! was great.

 

[fish eel]

Ballack in 2002 carried his mediocre club and country to the runners up spot in every competition they were entered in.

He took Bayer Leverkusen to the Champions League final single handedly aswell as Germany to the world cup final.

If he didn't get himself suspended he would have torn apart Brazil's leaky defence in the final.

Yep.

And he has been critical for Bayern in the last season. He was the difference between Bayern and Hamburg/Werder Bremen.

If you look at the goals he scored, the majority of them were goals that either drew Bayern level....or out them in front.

 

[borat]

Lampard has been a more consisten player then Gerrard over the last few years. Lampard consistently scores more goals.

However when both are at their best, it is Gerrard easily. As evidenced in the FA Cup Final.

How many goals a season you reckon Gerard would score if he played for Chelsea? It would be a scary prospect