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I have a former work collegue and friend who is a sports nut, thatI posed Jackal's second question to.
He says the question doesn't state whether the stadium is still used or not, or whether one that's still erected. He presumes Jackal means the oldest stadium in the world that's still around.
He says The Roman Colosseum was used almost exclusively for gladiatorial contests, which hardly count as sport so that can be rulled out in allfairness. The Circus Maximus might qualify as the oldest, since it was used mostly for chariot races, but the question whether chariot races is considered a sport in this day-n-age is questionable. It's a matter of interpretation he says.
He says the early forms of sports like football andcricket were played mainly on open fields or surroundings, which can't be classified as a stadium. Tennis was originally played on 'court yards' which were generally rooms on balconies, which can hardly qualify as a stadium.
He says TheMayan Pok-A-Pok Stadium at Chichen Itza-Cancun, Mexicowas built around the year 550 A.D. and has recordings that monks played an early form of cricket around the 10th Century. It still exists and is in reasonable tact today.It is the only stadium inthe world today which still has football (soccer) played at times, and is the only one which has records that still exist about its involvement dating back many centuries.
I'm not too sure on my mates claim and accuracy, because I can't find any refrences on the topic, but I'll take his word for it considering his broad knowledge of sports...or at least until someone else can provide more with backup.
Please don't do away the messenger....
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Here's a photo of Circus Maximus as it was than:
CIRCUSBW.GIF

It's rumoured to have helled well over 200,000 spectators.
And here's what it appears like today:
CIRCUSTY.GIF


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Willow

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200,000? Thats quite amazing. I'm not shooting the messenger but the total Greek population would have been not much more than this in ancient times. If its correct then its an incredible figure.
 

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Were the ancient olympians more honest than the modern olympians?
It's easy to assume that the ancient Olympic Games were different, that ancient Greek athletes were pure in mind and body andthat they trained and competed for no other reason than the love of physical exercise, fair competition and to honour their gods.
But how fair dinkum is this?
There are writings of political intrigue and scams going on. Certain races were given some pretty harsh treatment by the judges and its said that the Spartans were the best athletes but were rarely allowed a fair go.
Where's Kirk Douglas when you need him?

 

El Duque

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The Marcana Stadium in Rio De Janiero had 199,854 people watch the 1950 Soccer World Cup Final.
Don't think it can hold that much now.
 
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I know the figure is almost absurd Willow, but here's an extract I found for you :
The CIRCUS MAXIMUS, a large stadium designed for horse and chariot races, built against the lower slope of the Palatine Hill in Rome (the long galleries of seats were broken at the midpoint by the imperial box of the emperor). The complex could seat c. 150,000 and possibly held 250,000 at standing-room capacity. At center is the spina, decorated with imported monuments such as New Kingdom Egyptian obelisks, around which the racers would turn. One of the chief loci of Roman festivals, particularly those following the triumphal processions of victorious Roman generals.
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Thanks Raidpatch. The Circus Maxumus was in Rome which ofcourseis quite different to theGreek Olympics...my mistake (bit knackered atm). Still dont know about the crowd capacity though. I guess they had acaptive audience.
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Raidpatch said:
Here's a photo of Circus Maximus as it was than:
CIRCUSBW.GIF

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Sorry, but who took the photo?
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Guys, it's probably just a scaled model in a museum...
Well said Dog. Sorry but I thought that was pretty self-explainatory. I do see the humour though.Anyway....
Question.Who holds a 'higher' position in Australia...the Prime Minister or the Governor General? I overheard a couple of guys talking about it at the family business the other day, and I think it's an excellent question.
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Basketball has a very interesting history.

The game could have been called boxball, because Naismith first asked his studentsto look fortwo boxes but they only could find two peach baskets - hence basket-ball.

Even today thecircumference of the rim is the exact same as the peach baskets that Naismith used. The size of the court is the exact size of the gymwere Naismith invented the game.

Backboards only came about to stop fans on the balcony from blocking opposing teams shots. The shot clock came about it the professional era to stopteams from hogging possession and not shooting the ball once they were in the lead. The3-pointer came from the ABA days and then later was brought to the NBA.

"NBA only started in 1948 if memory serves. Were there other comps in the US/Overseas before this??" - MFC

NBA started in 1946 but was known then as Basketball Association of America. I think theonlycomp before the NBA was College basketball.


About the stadiums part, the biggest one in the world is the North Korean stadium 'May Day Stadium' in Pyongyang which holds 150,000.
 
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I found this on Basketball >
When James Naismith invented basketball in 1891, he used peach baskets. The next year a company in Hartford, Connecticut, started making baskets out of wire, but they also had bottoms attached to them. And in 1893, the Narragansett Machine Company in Providence, RI, invented the basket with an iron rim holding a net, but there was a bottom in the net, too. However, there was a chain attached that would open the bottom so the ball would drop out when it sensed the presence of weight. That was a pretty good idea, because until then, somebody had to climb up on a stepladder and take the ball out of the basket after every score. You could imagine how tedious and time consuming that was. The open-bottomed basket wasn't invented until 1906, but I don't know who did it and can't find it in any histories of basketball. It didn't come into common use until about 1912 or thereabouts.
 
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ozbash

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that photo of the collesium belongs to great kiwi actor, russell crowe...
it was built from a scale model from the back of a weet bix packet...
 

imported_kier

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Although it is hotly disputed, it seem that the football ground with the longest continual use is the "York Road" ground of Maidenhead United FC (soccer). I suppose it would be a fair assumption to say that this is probably the oldest football ground in the world.

I'm sure though that several cricket grounds (around the world)would pre-date this.

As for sports arenas still being used (unlike stadiums such as the Colluseum) I would imagine that the Sumo stadiums of Japan, or the Kabbadi arenas of India have probably existed for centuries.......and are still used today.
 

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