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imported_kier

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Willow asked how true was this statement.....

"It's easy to assume that the ancient Olympic Games were different, that ancient Greek athletes were pure in mind and body andthat they trained and competed for no other reason than the love of physical exercise, fair competition and to honour their gods."

The simple answer is, it isn't true at all. This is a common revision of the reality of ancient games in line with the invention of amateurism in the late 1900s.

The ancient sportsmen were very well paid, feted and rewarded for their efforts. Maybe meagre to todays Beckams, Jordans, Schmachers et al but certainly not purely for "the love of physical exercise, fair competition and to honour their gods.

The "ancient olympian ideal" was an invention to justify an elitist separation in sport. Along with other myths such as the Webb Ellis story and the ludicrous claim that " the battle of Waterloo was won on the sportsfields of Eton" they should be discounted.
 

Willow

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Thanks Kier. Almost forgotten about that one. It was post #305 in this fast moving thread.

I think thereare a lot of assumptions about the Greek Olympics.

There was plenty of corruption in the ancient olympics but this was because it was highly charged politically. It must have been because it used as some sort of truce... a way of giving everyone a break form the battles which often took place across ancient Greece. There was predujuce against certain races and even though they (usually) put down their weapons in the interest of the games, there must have been a few nasty moments. I guess the promise of healthy winner's purse kept things on the straight and narrow.

It was also a way for people to get hitched up! I seem to remember reading that only single men were allowed to participate. Married men were allowed to attend but married women wereforbidden to be part of the audience. Later, womens events were introduced but once again, only singles.

The blokes were naked and the girls had one breast exposed. This may have been for practical reasons such as freedom of movement but it has been said that this was also so they could check each other out.

 

ex-manager

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OK, which one is Charlton Heston?

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But if the body knows all the movements of the 'limbs', then how can it be surprised (hence produce a tickling sensation)?? OK, i know thats a 2yr old explanation, but i never did get into science to much...

I had another question but it has just slipped my mind....Damnnnn grrrr...I hope i can remember it, as id love an answer and im sure one of the geniuses could help out :)

Oh wel, another one in the meantime. Why is it, that in my experiences at least, if i drive down the road without a hand on the wheel, the car drifts to the left. Is it always like that, and is it to avoid head on accidents if someone falls asleep at the wheel??

Moffo.


 

Willow

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Moffo,
Your wheels are out of alignment mate.
The reason why its the left hand side is because the its the front passenger-side wheel that keeps hitting the gutter when you park....or should I say bash your caragainst the curb.
Take it to a tyre place and they'll fix it while you wait.
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Why is it that if you blow on a dogs face, it gets all agressive on you, but the minute you throw them in the car, they shove the head straight out the window?
Mongrels!
 
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Is there a page with the list of all Nine-MSN Communities available? I'm looking for one in particular but search engines aren't doing me any good. Thanks..
'fan-baller
 

El Duque

Bench
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Why is it that too many cooks spoil the broth but many hands make light work?

Why are there too many chiefs but not enough indians yet great minds think alike?

Why should you look before you leap when he who hesitates is lost?

Why is the bigger the better if good things come in small packages?

Why is not whether you win or lose but how you play the game if all fair in love and war?

Why should we beware of Greeks bearing gifts but not look a gift horse in the mouth?

Why are actions louder than words if the pen is mightier than the sword?

Why is it beeter to be safe than sorry if nothing ventured nothing gained?


 
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Thats what i thought Willow, but i asked the old man and he said it was always like that so that cars avoid head on crashes....i've been had
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I got to think of that other question i had!

Moffo.

 

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