God shall not be mocked

[HevyDevy]

I forgot how many nutters there are in the world.

 

[N.Hindmarsh_Fan]

Thats not true. there are two sides. If you believe in God then you believe in Satan. That old saying that it does not matter what religion you follow because they all lead to God is rubbish. There are millions of religions but only 1 is backed by God himself, the others all belong to Satan to stop humans from worshiping God. Satan hates God and wants all humans to worship him one way or the other. Whether it be false gods including our idol heroes, sports stars, entertaiment, money etc. but more commonly false religon.

If we really believe in God and want to worship him then its up to you to sift thru all the false religions and find the 1 true God. Supprisingly its quite simple all you have to do is answer 10 questions. common sence really and observation. At the end of the day if you really, really, really think about it, we all know which one it is. There the only ones doing what the bible and God says. Its just most choose to do nothing about it.

Great post mate, sums it up brilliantly.

To the people who have hurled abuse towards me have I said anything to you that has hurt or offended you? A racist comment? An abusive term? If so I am truly sorry, If not why do you need to react in such an angry manner?

I stated an opinion, albeit an unpopular one but I did not mean any harm by it.

 

[Snoochies]

The scarier question is if I prove entirely there was no god would you then go on a murder spree just because there was no longer a higher moral standard?

If we are all just highly evolved slime, then where do morals come from? If there is no God, then obviously the human mind creates morals. I believe in moral absolutes eg. Murder is absolutely wrong. If there is no God, then it's my very own judgement that decides what is right or wrong, and you have your own judgement of what is right and wrong. All morals are relative. Why is it we can say that what Hitler did was absolutely wrong, according to evolution you could easily say what he did makes perfect sense. So as far as evolution is concerned, there are no moral absolutes and child rape isn't absolutely wrong or evil because it all comes down to someones own personal view. But every single one of us knows that it's absolutely wrong.
So who defines what is good and evil and right and wrong?

 

[N.Hindmarsh_Fan]

I forgot how many nutters there are in the world.

Gday Hevy, long time no speak.

Mate, If I have learnt anything in life after giving my heart to Jesus it is this, being abusive towards others will only affect your own life. Try something different and be respectful towards people who are not in agreeance with your thoughts and beliefs, you will find that your own life will be more joyful (This is merely a suggestion and has nothing to do with God, it is your life and you can do with it as you please).

 

[Snoochies]

Can you clarify Snoochies? What do you mean by 'what am i living for?'

Well obviously you are living for something, you have a purpose. What gets you up in the morning, what do you devote your time, energy, money and resources too?

A great question that has been raised, if life is an accident, then life if meaningless, what you do, say, think and live out your life if meaningless, so why don't we all commit mass suicide?

 

[Redback71]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redback71
some was but most was written way before



because then they would be answerable to someone on the way they lead there lives. choosing not to believe is there way of sticking there head in the sand.

But I bet you dont know the bible fortold all the world powers from the first 1 to the 1 we have now.

If your really intersted ill post later in a new thread. One thing I love is history and also for centuries people have tried to discredit the bible but every Archelogical dig just proves it to be historically correct. Also people, goverments, Hitler have tried to get rid of the bible ever since it was first written be failed how do you explain that? any other book would have vanished by now.

I'll be interested in that post.

ok. But ill post later.

 

[HevyDevy]

Well obviously you are living for something, you have a purpose. What gets you up in the morning, what do you devote your time, energy, money and resources too?

A great question that has been raised, if life is an accident, then life if meaningless, what you do, say, think and live out your life if meaningless, so why don't we all commit mass suicide?

Why does there need to be meaning?

You're alive. Enjoy it while you can.

 

[Redback71]

The scarier question is if I prove entirely there was no god would you then go on a murder spree just because there was no longer a higher moral standard?

impossible to prove.
just look at creation as an example.
To say 1 thing came about by chance maybe, but every living thing on earth and space. millions of coincidences and chances are just not possible when it comes to life.

 

[Redback71]

How​

can a person know which religion is right?
(1) On what are its teachings based? Are they from God, or are they largely from men? (2 Tim. 3:16; Mark 7:7) Ask, for example: Where does the Bible teach that God is a Trinity? Where does it say that the human soul is immortal?​

(2)​

Consider whether it is making known the name of God. Jesus said in prayer to God: “I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world.” (John 17:6) He declared: “It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.” (Matt. 4:10) Has your religion taught you that ‘it is Jehovah you must worship’? Have you come to know the Person identified by that name—his purposes, his activities, his qualities—so that you feel you can confidently draw close to him?​

(3)​

Is true faith in Jesus Christ being demonstrated? This involves appreciation of the value of the sacrifice of Jesus’ human life and of his position today as heavenly King. (John 3:36; Ps. 2:6-8) Such appreciation is shown by obeying Jesus—sharing personally and zealously in the work that he assigned to his followers. True religion has such faith that is accompanied by works.—Jas. 2:26.​

(4)​

Is it largely ritualistic, a formality, or is it a way of life? God strongly disapproves of religion that is merely a formalism. (Isa. 1:15-17) True religion upholds the Bible’s standard of morality and clean speech instead of weakly going along with popular trends. (1 Cor. 5:9-13; Eph. 5:3-5) Its members reflect the fruits of God’s spirit in their lives. (Gal. 5:22, 23) So, those who adhere to true worship can be identified because they sincerely endeavor to apply Bible standards in their lives not only at their places of meeting but in their family life, at their secular work, in school, and in recreation.​

(5)​

Do its members truly love one another? Jesus said: “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.” (John 13:35) Such love reaches across racial, social, and national boundaries, drawing people together in genuine brotherhood. So strong is this love that it sets them apart as being truly different. When the nations go to war, who have enough love for their Christian brothers in other lands that they refuse to take up arms and kill them? That is what early Christians did.​

(6)​

Is it truly separate from the world? Jesus said that his true followers would be “no part of the world.” (John 15:19) To worship God in a manner that he approves requires that we keep ourselves “without spot from the world.” (Jas. 1:27) Can that be said of those whose clergy and other members are involved in politics, or whose lives are largely built around materialistic and fleshly desires?—1 John 2:15-17.​

(7)​

Are its members active witnesses concerning God’s Kingdom? Jesus foretold: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matt. 24:14) What religion is really proclaiming God’s Kingdom as the hope of mankind instead of encouraging people to look to human rulership to solve their problems? Has your religion equipped you to share in this activity, and to do it from house to house as Jesus taught his apostles to do?—Matt. 10:7, 11-13; Acts 5:42; 20:20.​

 

[Redback71]

why is those who belive in creation and talk about it are classed as nutters, is not chance more crazy? If you were walking along a road in the middle of nowhere and found a baby just sitting there, would you automatically think wow! this baby apeared out of nowhere? by chance? of course not?

 

[HevyDevy]

impossible to prove.
just look at creation as an example.
To say 1 thing came about by chance maybe, but every living thing on earth and space. millions of coincidences and chances are just not possible when it comes to life.

It takes millions of coincidences for you to meet your g/f or wife or bets friend or whoever it might be.

It's an incredible stroke of luck that you were born. That your parents decided to go for it at the exact moment that they did and that of all the eggs your father's sperm could have fertilised that it happened to be the one that resulted in you.

Obviously you wouldn't know if it had been otherwise, but as it turns out you are the result of that day/night.

 

[Kornstar]

Well obviously you are living for something, you have a purpose. What gets you up in the morning, what do you devote your time, energy, money and resources too?

A great question that has been raised, if life is an accident, then life if meaningless, what you do, say, think and live out your life if meaningless, so why don't we all commit mass suicide?

Question - What gets me up in the morning?
Answer - The job that i love and get paid well to do

Question - What do i devote my time, energy, money and resources too?
Answer - Writing music, buying new programs in which to record music, listening to my favourite music (i think my username gives away another thing i am obsessed with) travelling to see the Eels, home or away, buying merchandise. Watching pretty much every game of league broadcast on TV. Watching TV shows. Spending time with friends and family.

I am unsure what this all has to do with god? I LOVE the Eels and i LOVE music, why the f*ck would i want to committ suicide?

I believe that life is an accident, doesn't affect the way i live it. The Eels make me happy (even when they are making me sad) and listening to Korn saved my life in my early 20's........

Again, i am unsure what any of that has to do with whether there is a god or not? Do you think you need god/jesus in your life to make it meaningful????

 

[HevyDevy]

On a different note, Molly Meldrum just said the following on Hey Hey:

"My team the Melbourne Storm beat Parramatta on the weekend but we have a lot of respect for Parramatta, especially ... Jarryd Hayes!!!"

Yep, huuuge rugby league fan.

 

[84 Baby]

The scarier question is if I prove entirely there was no god would you then go on a murder spree just because there was no longer a higher moral standard?

If we are all just highly evolved slime, then where do morals come from? If there is no God, then obviously the human mind creates morals. I believe in moral absolutes eg. Murder is absolutely wrong. If there is no God, then it's my very own judgement that decides what is right or wrong, and you have your own judgement of what is right and wrong. All morals are relative. Why is it we can say that what Hitler did was absolutely wrong, according to evolution you could easily say what he did makes perfect sense. So as far as evolution is concerned, there are no moral absolutes and child rape isn't absolutely wrong or evil because it all comes down to someones own personal view. But every single one of us knows that it's absolutely wrong.
So who defines what is good and evil and right and wrong?

How is genocide perfectly sensible under the theory of evolution? For example Nazis persecuted Jews, Einstein was Jewish and incredibly intelligent. What evolutionary benefit does killing arguably the smartest person of the time have? In fact, Nazism had heavy religious beginnings.

You say everyone knows child rape is absolutely wrong but apparently only because of god, so my question still stands if you knew god didn't exist would you rape children?

 

[Kornstar]

How is genocide perfectly sensible under the theory of evolution? For example Nazis persecuted Jews, Einstein was Jewish and incredibly intelligent. What evolutionary benefit does killing arguably the smartest person of the time have? In fact, Nazism had heavy religious beginnings.

You say everyone knows child rape is absolutely wrong but apparently only because of god, so my question still stands if you knew god didn't exist would you rape children?

Apparently there are some priests who think it is ok, actually there are plenty that think it is ok, so are they the ones determining what is good or evil? I mean, they represent god right?

Forcing someone to do something they don't want to do in any situation imo is wrong, i don't need god in my life to know that!

 

[84 Baby]

impossible to prove.
just look at creation as an example.
To say 1 thing came about by chance maybe, but every living thing on earth and space. millions of coincidences and chances are just not possible when it comes to life.

Ok yeah the odds are massive, but take into account how many solar systems there are and this cuts those odds drastically that at some point in the universe a planet was bound by the laws of physics and chemistry to permit life. The odds are still extreme but here we are. Life by chance doesn't automatically mean creation is the only possibility. Sure its a possibility but so far physics and chemistry prove the development of life with verifiable evidence

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

and listening to Korn saved my life in my early 20's........

Of all the gay things posted in this thread (and there are a lot) that has to be the gayest. It's so cliche it's not funny.

 

[Kornstar]

Of all the gay things posted in this thread (and there are a lot) that has to be the gayest. It's so cliche it's not funny.

Cliche or not, it is the truth......call it what you will......not all of us can be as wonderfully handsome and well adjusted as you!

 

[Kornstar]

Here are some quotes that people may find funny or offensive, depending which side you sit.

Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species represented changes through time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the practice of squeezing one's eyes shut and wailing "Does not!" ~Author Unknown

If we are going to teach 'creation science' as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction. ~Judith Hayes, In God We Trust: But Which One?

In science, "fact" can only mean "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. ~Stephen J. Gould

I like to browse in occult bookshops if for no other reason than to refresh my commitment to science. ~Heinz Pagels, The Dreams of Reason

Religion seems to have a way of making people abandon logic. ~Amanda Baxter

The biblical account of Noah's Ark and the Flood is perhaps the most implausible story for fundamentalists to defend. Where, for example, while loading his ark, did Noah find penguins and polar bears in Palestine? ~Judith Hayes

Most men would kill the truth if truth would kill their religion. ~Lemuel K. Washburn, Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays

Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense. ~Chapman Cohen

The supreme arrogance of religious thinking: that a carbon-based bag of mostly water on a speck of iron-silicate dust around a boring dwarf star in a minor galaxy would look up at the sky and declare,"It was all made just so that I could exist!"
Physicist Peter Walker.


"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction".
Blaise Pascal

A great deal of what passes for current Christianity consists in denouncing other people's vices and faults.
Henry H. Williams


Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.
Author Unknown


People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them.
Dave Barry

A great deal of what passes for current Christianity consists in denouncing other people's vices and faults.
Henry H. Williams


Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.
Author Unknown


People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them.
Dave Barry

A great deal of what passes for current Christianity consists in denouncing other people's vices and faults.
Henry H. Williams


Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.
Author Unknown


People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them.
Dave Barry

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Epicurus 340 - 270 BCE

 

[Kornstar]

*Double post*