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God shall not be mocked

Who believes in God?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 64.1%
  • No

    Votes: 33 35.9%

  • Total voters
    92
  • Poll closed .

Avenger

Immortal
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No-one really knows till we get there.

This brings to mind a great quotation, from the great Mark Twain:

"I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."

Maybe death is indeed just like the "billions of years" before birth.


Good quote. How do you explain ghosts ? Look I have not seen anything but plenty have. Surely not everyone is lying or their minds played tricks on them ?
 
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Good quote. How do you explain ghosts ? Look I have not seen anything but plenty have. Surely not everyone is lying or their minds played tricks on them ?

To be honest, I don't know.

And the only thing I 100% believe, is that no-one really knows.

Maybe ghosts exist, maybe they don't - maybe it is indeed mind tricks.

I read an interesting theory about how the human brain has developed over the last couple of thousand years. I read this some time ago, so my memory is not exacting on it.

What I recall, is that as the human race has aged, a dividing "gristle" (for want of a better term) has formed between the hemispheres (left and right) of the brain.

The theory examines, that without this barrier - the brain and mind had no division between its rational and creative portion, whereby this processes intermixed without barriers, which made some human fears and emotions manifest as "visions".

It also expanded upon how in groups, visions could become replicated amongst its inhabitants, through the power of suggestion - much like how "mob mentality" works as we know it.

Physiologically, we now have this division, and hence can distinguish imagination from reality.

Today, as with any genetic variance among people, this division is not always fully developed in every individual; whereby those that are more prone to see ghosts and experience supernatural occurrences, are speculated to fall within this category.

Now this was all interesting reading, and while I entertain that there is a possibility that this is correct, I also entertain the possibility that it isn't.

Again, no-one really knows the mysteries of life for certain - and anyone who says they do are misinformed, however innocently it may be.

The above statement is the only thing I am certain of.

Every human being on this earth is going to die someday, so we will all find out regardless.

We will find one of two things:

- either the immediate and irrevocable loss of consciousness

- or the unravelling of "the great mystery" that was/is life
 
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Not entirely true. If there is nothing. Nobody is going to wake you up and say. Tada!! It was all bullsh*t, now back to sleep.

Hence "irrevocable loss of consciousness" - fair point to you in that by proxy of this mechanism, there is an inherent denial of realisation.

In retrospect, dumbing it down to these two alternatives, is inded far too simplistic - but I had done so, merely to illustrate the point that either there is something more or there isn't, and that nobody knows for certain.

There of course could also be reincarnation, other mysteries upon death etc., which do not fit into these categories.
 

yy_cheng

Coach
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LOL, is this a joke? Was it divine intervention or our GOD Moderators did this on purpose?

As I finished this thread I saw an ad at the bottom:

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Kornstar

Coach
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Good quote. How do you explain ghosts ? Look I have not seen anything but plenty have. Surely not everyone is lying or their minds played tricks on them ?

Plenty have claimed to have seen UFO's and aliens, many have claimed they have been abducted too, there are even some credible photo's and loads of credible video too. "Surely not everyone is is lying or their minds played tricks on them ?"

I just wonder what place aliens hold in religion?

If god created aliens too then why isn't it talked about?

The fact that religion has so much power in this world it is not possible for leaders to support alien exsistence, it doesn't fit!
 

Redback71

First Grade
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1. You haven't listened to a word I have said & I'm getting the impression you never will. Things are not random in a cause & effect environment. It is easy to say well if Item A didn't do this then we wouldn't exist therefore god made it so Item A would do it, because the alternative is Item A didn't do it and we wouldn't be here now. Just because Item A did its job doesn't mean a god forced it to. Just like how you're bamboozled by how our magician can make the woman disappear, does that make the magician a god? Were we meant to appease Criss Angel before the grand final?

2. Again haven't listened. There are only 3 real components to evolution. Time - do you believe time doesn't exist? Environment - more importantly change in the environment. Now unless Adam & Eve lived in a skyscraper, environmental change is evident even in the Bible. Finally natural selection - similar to your argument that everything is random. There's a group of fish that are eating sea plants. One day there isn't enough light to feed the plants and they all die. Now we'll divide the fish into 4 groups.
The fish that are least capable of finding other food - they die almost immediately.
The fish that can swim the furthest to find other plants - they survive and probably show signs of being able to survive longer periods without food.
The fish that can eat other substances such as dirt - they survive.
The fish that can eat other fish - they survive and become our first carnivores.
Now from just one environmental change and the length of time that it took for all the current food supply to die to the time where the fish were forced to find other food to survive, we have evolution naturally selected one group of fish to die and forcing another 3 to use particular attributes to survive.
You ask why were grew sexual organs, well I ask you why we have a pancreas or the remnant of a tail?
And we see the same event happening every day. Do you have children? Do they know things at their age that you didn't know at the same age? That is evolution my friend at work. We teach our children all that we know so that they don't have to spend the multitude of years it took Pythagoras to discover his thereom.
I bet you don't believe in the fossilised remains of dinosaurs

ok lets for arguments case all that is correct, and we evolved from some other creature thru evolution. someone had to get the how process started by creating that original atom, which would have to have all the information neccesarry to make it possible. Just like a computer, if it does not have all the software on it when purchased it, its useless. Same could be said for that atom or spec of dust what ever you want to call it. It would have to be programed with all the building blocks of life.

Even Drawin who started this whole evolution crap off admited towards the end of his life the existence of some high being, he just stop short of calling him God.
 

Redback71

First Grade
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aliens maybe are angels , except i didnt think anal probes were in the bible

Amazing someone has a brain. You know the part of the bible where it talks about the fallen angels cast out of heaven, to rove about the earth never allowed back into heaven. Well them are your aliens. Hahahaha...
 

yy_cheng

Coach
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ok lets for arguments case all that is correct, and we evolved from some other creature thru evolution. someone had to get the how process started by creating that original atom, which would have to have all the information neccesarry to make it possible. Just like a computer, if it does not have all the software on it when purchased it, its useless. Same could be said for that atom or spec of dust what ever you want to call it. It would have to be programed with all the building blocks of life.

Even Drawin who started this whole evolution crap off admited towards the end of his life the existence of some high being, he just stop short of calling him God.

There is no answer that we can fathom Redback.

Goes back to who created GOD?

Was GOD a quark, the smallest subatomic particle that WE KNOW of?

So did that quark just exist or something/someone else made it?
 
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You should.

Your "Arguments" are purely ludicrous. The "examples" you give (as with others in this thread on both sides) are moronic at best and in no way provide anything to the discussion other than idiotic blabbering.

I haven't thoroughly read this entire thread but what I have seen has been absolutely devoid of even the smallest legitimate scientific or theological contribution.
 
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Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without expectation of rewards or punishment after you are dead.
Kurt Vonnegut, 1922–2007, American novelist​






For me, this is far more enlightening and honorable than any word I have ever heard spoken about God.
 

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