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Gogglebox & I'm a celebrity, get me out of here

Someone

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well I watched 'Winter' last night, wasn't too bad but didn't grap me.

Gallipoli starts this sunday I think.

And theres a tele movie coming out called 'catching milat'.

Australia tries to produce good television but the public don't eat it up as much as reality tv.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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FACT. Australia is among the highest consumers of reality tv per capita than anywhere else in the world. Between things like Masterchef, MKR, the voice and the block, reality tv rates extremely well in Australia, moreso than even america

I may have missed your point, but I'm not sure why you needed to quote me for that, it doesn't change anything I said.

Australia is at least 10 years behind in regards to creating television and their thinking about who they're marketing too and where TV is heading in the future. Just take a look at channel 9's new drama that they're pumping off the back of Rebecca Gibney, yup that's right, Rebecca Gibney. Who under 35 would give the slightest f**k about Rebecca Gibney being back to star in a show, let alone having a 51 year old in a sex scene?

Entertainment (and the access to it) is now global. It's not just about the TV stations creating products for their local audience, but creating original programming that can then be on sold to other markets to increase revenue.

TV ratings in its traditional form (show airs, gets ratings for that slot only) has become obsolete. The Blacklist episode for example has had it's rating adjusted as high as 5 million after the initial ratings results came in from the "live" airing.

Whoever made the Torchwood/Crime Series comment is 100% spot on. Australia has 3 default genres - Drama/Reality TV/Crime Shows, and as a result everything gets nudged into that genre or poorly represented by trying to wedge it into those genres.

That used to work, and we're still seeing the leftover thought process of that today where people have been conditioned to receive this sort of crap. The problem is that the entertainment world is now global and people have options.

The thing that's going to kill the Australia TV channels is the generation change. Again, Nobody over 35 is going to give a f**k about a crime series where the main focal point of advertising is Rebecca Gibney. The same pool of actors/crew get used for everything, so it all looks and feels the same. I think it will still rate reasonable, but less so with those under 35. There's going to come a point where those who have been conditioned to accept what Australian TV feeds us is going to fade away/die out, and all that they're going to be left with is an audience who have been conditioned to go elsewhere.
 

redvscotty

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I think I'm answering my own question here but why don't Aussie channels go in for GoT or Vikings or BB or the big shows?

Is it a case of Foxtel outpricing them? I would have thought one of the networks would grab a big one, bash the shit out of advertising it, and have every single aussie at home watching it. Surely that would work!

Always hated the 'best things in life are free' ads on the free to air channels. Especially when they show sport clips. Laughable.
 

whall15

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I think I'm answering my own question here but why don't Aussie channels go in for GoT or Vikings or BB or the big shows?

Is it a case of Foxtel outpricing them? I would have thought one of the networks would grab a big one, bash the shit out of advertising it, and have every single aussie at home watching it. Surely that would work!

Always hated the 'best things in life are free' ads on the free to air channels. Especially when they show sport clips. Laughable.

The problem is that shows get bought before they're aired so networks don't want to buy shows that 99% of the time will probably be early morning filler. That and Fox paid big money for an exclusive deal with HBO.

I believe that Vikings is on SBS and iirc ABC had Breaking Bad, albeit on delay after Fox.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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I think I'm answering my own question here but why don't Aussie channels go in for GoT or Vikings or BB or the big shows?

Is it a case of Foxtel outpricing them? I would have thought one of the networks would grab a big one, bash the shit out of advertising it, and have every single aussie at home watching it. Surely that would work!

Always hated the 'best things in life are free' ads on the free to air channels. Especially when they show sport clips. Laughable.

Seems logical doesn't it? I doubt the big channels even threw out a bid tbh.

All you have to do is look at something like Spartacus. They put it on Go to start with but when I switched over and to my horror blood had been digitally removed, or the scene re-cut to remove the violence, swearing was cut out, nudity gone. Basically they butchered the shit out of it to fit it into what free TV thinks it's about and what it thinks people want.

It's a blessing that GOT/Walking Dead etc aren't on free to air because you wouldn't be getting the full experience.
 

whall15

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I'm over Network TV to the extent that I can't remember the last time I watched it for anything other than the NRL. Probably years.
 

roofromoz

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The problem is that shows get bought before they're aired so networks don't want to buy shows that 99% of the time will probably be early morning filler. That and Fox paid big money for an exclusive deal with HBO.

I believe that Vikings is on SBS and iirc ABC had Breaking Bad, albeit on delay after Fox.

SBS started showing The Walking Dead about 1-2 years after it debuted in the states, and I recall in promos that it was "slow-tracked".
 

Zigwaa

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Not sure about IACGMOOH or goggle box but I really enjoyed Shark tank last night, don't know why but I found myself very invested in some of the people on it.

That cricket cooler is gold.
 

azzah72

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Not sure about IACGMOOH or goggle box but I really enjoyed Shark tank last night, don't know why but I found myself very invested in some of the people on it.

That cricket cooler is gold.

Sharks Tank was good I thought.

I'd suggest giving gogglebox a go, I thought it was quite funny when I saw a preview.

IACGMOOH hasn't held my interest too much, I would like it if there was changes in the format a bit, maybe the whole group doing a challenge here or there.

I am probably going to stop tuning into that, not because I think it's that bad, it just isn't particularly varied in what they do.

Still more entertaining than watching people cook and build, albeit for morbid reason I guess.
 

T.S Quint

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I watch cricket and NRL on 9. Nothing else.
I my TV hasn't been switched to any other FTA channel in years.

Foxtel or online are the only ways I watch stuff now.
I may have said this already in this thread, but I can't be fu*ked going back and reading my own posts.
 

Walt Flanigan

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Watched a little bit and already decided it's the biggest load of shit ever huh.

Love those kinds of arguments when it comes to anything :lol:

How much of a show like that do I need to see? Did I miss crucial story points or character development.

From the 10 mins I saw, it appeared the show was just going to be much of the same.
 

Mong

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I suspect it wouldn't have mattered how much you watched, you would have considered it shite prior to watching it given your response.

Biggest load of shit ever? That's a pretty big call all things considered, especially to make after just 10 minutes.

I've only watched one episode so far, could be amusing but likely to get tired fast.
 

Walt Flanigan

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I suspect it wouldn't have mattered how much you watched, you would have considered it shite prior to watching it given your response.

Do you know me that well do you? I made a call based on the shows premise of watching people watching tv.

Yes I said "biggest load of sh*t ever" but you obviously haven't heard of people exaggerating to make a point.

Do you take everything so literally?
 

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