carlnz said:Mate i said that International Rugby is light years ahead of league and they use it so does Cricket, B Ball, Soccer and every other sports so why does League Fans have a problem with this rule? Is it because they over kill it?
elBandido said:I seem to remember a Japan side in their world cup that was hardly oriental,indeed my Soccer loving mates found it absolutely hilarious,is that what you want?
YANTO said:FFS GRANDPARENT RULE Jovan.?????
Alex Smits mother and father were BOTH born in Holland and Alex has a Dutch passport.BEST PLAYER ON THE DAY
As I have stated on a previous thread ALL our players were cleared by the RLEF as eligable for the games.
Jorik Moree plays in England and is no different than Soni and Zoran playing at the Skolars.
Nathan Gee was the ONLY Grand parent rule .
Get over it mate as we have beaten you twice (home and away)and once with a lot of top players missing.
We arrived in Belgrade with a weaker team that lost at home to Georgia and still played well enough to win.
Instead of dragging up the past look forward to improving your game.
This continuous pulling down of a progressing Netherlands side is not good for the future of developing nations.
Rules are rules and we broke NONE.
Any way congrats on the result in Tbilisi.
it looks like you were very competative.
What did your soccer loving mates think about the first ever Irish team to qualify for the World Cup quarter finals a couple of years ago. Eleven born and bred Englishman - but most did at least have an Irish Grand parent.elBandido said:Woooo Alex one player who became a national citizen and has lived there for ELEVEN years and upon doing it committed himself to always play for Japan
hutch said:we definately need:
- a quota of players using gp rule. i would like to see no more than 6 players per 17 using gp rule.
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I have never agreed with quotas and i think the one country for life rule would fix it up. But, Interestingly, a quota of 6 GPs might be fair enough, if you allow parent rule players.
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- one country for life rule. will stop ridiculous situation of aussies such as willie mason, tonie carroll and luke ricketson playing for tonga, new zealand and ireland respectively. the number of aussies and kiwis playing for other countries at the last world cup was out of control.
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Agreed 100%. But, I do think that this will only ever work if each nation gets a quota of internationals per year and not with things being so haphazard like they are (although they are slowly improving).
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- each nation playing a minumum of 5 test matches a year. there is no point not playing for 3 years in between cups, (which is the current situation)
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Ideally, each nation needs to build its own series and rivalries. The European Nations cup this year has been great. Samoa v Tonga will be great also.
- each world cup nation granted test status, and world cup matches to be included in test records. (last wc final, aus v nz, not included in test match records).
Disagree. I think that Test status should be preserved to legitimate nations, At the moment, there are only 5 and PNG and France are debatable. Test records should not be broken by 100 pnt strolls in the park against Russia. Still, international records should be kept far better than they are. Is it even possible to find a list of internationals played in the last 5 years, let alone scoring records etc.
- some kind of ranking system. similar to cricket.
Agreed.
Copa said:A quota of GP players is probably required. I'd go as far to say a quota on the number of "parent players" also.
It sounds absurd to think I have to say this... but.... there should be places open for people from the country being represented.
All I'm saying is that there should be some italians in the italian team, some french in the french team etc etc.... to fill the entire team with people who may have never been to the country concerned is absurd. There is a place for the GP and parent rule.... but some people from Italy in the Italian team etc etc etc would be good.YANTO said:But that could cause all kinds of problems.
I am a good example.
My parents being English and Scottish I was born in Singapore.
Now would I have to play for Singapore even though I was only six months old when we returned to the UK??
Another good example is Alex Smits who has dutch parents has a Dutch passport but was born in New Zealand .
Then you have people arguing about guys only seeing the country they are playing for on TV?
Again using a Dutch example Martijn Jonkers born in Amsterdam has a Dutch passport but was brought up in ST.Helens.
In fact we have four players born in Holland that live and were raised in the UK.
Grandparent,parent,country of birth ......all could bring problems.
Looking on the team sheet which would you class as a more genuine Dutch sounding player, Aaron de Jager , born and raised Australia with a Dutch mother or Phil Parkinson born in Holland but raised in England????
screeny said:You are only allowed to have four grandparents. Any more and one of your parents has been lying to you.
screeny said:You are only allowed to have four grandparents. Any more and one of your parents has been lying to you.