Haddin wants apology :lol:

[JJ]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/cr...ori-im-no-cheat/2009/02/02/1233423102976.html

Brilliant :lol:

The spirit of cricket being upheld nicely

 

[JJ]

Even Aussie legend Dazza thinks Haddin's a merkin

And not to mention Oxenford, what a brilliant umpire he is

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/cr...t-broom-verdict/2009/02/02/1233423135198.html

Former ump Hair bristles at Broom verdict

• Andrew Stevenson
  February 3, 2009

FORMER Test umpire Darrell Hair said yesterday Neil Broom should definitely have been given not out and that it was "unfortunate" wicketkeeper Brad Haddin hadn't admitted his infringement.
"It's quite clear-cut. His [Haddin's] gloves were in front of the stumps and the ball hadn't passed the line of stumps, so he's in breach of the law and it should have just been an automatic no-ball," said Hair, now executive officer of the NSW Cricket Umpires and Scorers Association.
"Of all the people on the ground, he would have been the one who was best positioned to know. I think he should have owned up to it. I saw that [Ricky] Ponting has gone into bat for him after the Kiwis called him [Haddin] a cheat, but I can understand why the Kiwis would be livid about it."
The responsibility for detecting Haddin's encroachment lay with square leg umpire Bruce Oxenford. "People think the square leg umpire is out there for a rest, but the most important thing the square leg umpire is out there to look for are the things that happen the least and that's hit wicket and the wicketkeeper encroaching," Hair said.
"It should have just been called a no-ball from the square leg umpire … You can't be stumped and you can't be bowled off a no-ball. But it's obvious that the ball missed the stump as well."

 

[Bobby DIGital]

LOL @ Haddin crying about being called a cheat. Come on now....you *edit* and everyone saw your reaction on camera.

I was disappointed that Neil Broom didn't stand his ground. I think a more experienced player would of.

This wouldn't of happened if Gilchrist was still playing...

 

[Scott]

Mr Haddin is the person that should be apologising.

 

[Meth]

Mr. Oxenford is the person who should be apologizing

Mr. Haddin should drop the 'poor me' routine

 

[Gaba]

*edit*

I was disappointed that Neil Broom didn't stand his ground. I think a more experienced player would of.

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Broom didnt know the rules, yes and batsman who did would have stayed and made Haddin looked like a clown,

 

[JoeD]

Broom didnt know the rules

can you show me the rule where the batsman can challenge the umpire when he is given out?

If anyone doesn't know the rules it's Haddin who admitted he saw his gloves in front of the wickets and didn't call Broom back

 

[Twizzle]

Vettori said Haddin knew the wicket of Neil Broom was not legitimate, after the batsman was ruled to have been bowled by Michael Clarke in the 36th over despite replays showing Haddin's gloves were in front of the stumps - an automatic no-ball. New Zealand players were furious as they watched the replays during the first of the five-match, Chappell-Hadlee one-day series.

sure Dan

funny how the kiwis were "furious" but not till they saw the replay, yet Haddin cannot be afforded the same luxury

The umpires made the decision, not Haddin

 

[Gaba]

can you show me the rule where the batsman can challenge the umpire when he is given out?

Been happening for a long time, batsman stand their ground on catches , bowls



bowls if the batsman not sure they stand their ground half a look at the 1:00 mark the umpires had to refer to the 3rd umpire
au.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Ms37yt3lg

 

[Batman Returns]

Next thing Trevor Chappell will be demanding an apology from everyone who ever dared to question what he did. "I delivered a ball which was within the laws of cricket at the time and I think it's really low and poor for y'all to have a crack at me".

 

[Batman Returns]

sure Dan

funny how the kiwis were "furious" but not till they saw the replay, yet Haddin cannot be afforded the same luxury

The umpires made the decision, not Haddin

Yeah, that makes sense. Kiwi's are way up in the stands. Haddin's gloves are in front of the wicket, then make contact with the stumps. He doesn't need to see a replay to know that. Everyone can see him stop rather than go charging up the wicket to give Clarke a big hug. Then he tells Ponting on the field that he was sure the ball flicked the off bail. C'mon: why are you still defending this?

 

[JJ]

sure Dan

funny how the kiwis were "furious" but not till they saw the replay, yet Haddin cannot be afforded the same luxury

The umpires made the decision, not Haddin

:lol: Have youy ever played cricket twizzle?

Haddin's just joined the illustrious Greg Dyer... both NSW gloveman no? and no doubt both people you'd want to give the benefit of the doubt too (if there was any doubt that is)

 

[Iafeta]

It's exactly as the coach said. The words Vettori chose to use were softly softly. The subbies in particular would have said far worse things than what Vettori had to say. At the end of the day, Haddin's keeping is poor, he has little knowledge of the rules, and Oxenford is not an international standard umpire. The three horrific decisions made in that game were all his - Dave Hussey's caught behind, McCullum's leg before, and the inability to watch the wicket-keepers gloves to signal no-ball.

The thing though that is letting Haddin down is his comment that 100% the ball hit the stumps. The stills show the bails still on when it's going into his gloves (refer the photos in the game thread).

 

[Meth]

I still don't buy that Haddin didn't know something was awry. Broom certainly did.

Surprisingly Twizzle, Batman Returns is right- you can't expect Vettori et all to spot Haddins gloves clipping the bails from the balcony

 

[Twizzle]

Yeah, that makes sense.

thankyou

Kiwis are way up in the stands. Haddin's gloves are in front of the wicket, then make contact with the stumps. He doesn't need to see a replay to know that.

you dont know that for sure, you're making an assumption

the fact is none of us know, except t kiwis who's judgment seems to be clouded by their geography

Everyone can see him stop rather than go charging up the wicket to give Clarke a big hug.

rubbish

Then he tells Ponting on the field that he was sure the ball flicked the off bail. C'mon: why are you still defending this?

its not that black and white, a keeper will appeal on his instinct, its up to the umpires to make the decision

I really dont think Haddin had enough time to think about what happened

 

[Twizzle]

I still don't buy that Haddin didn't know something was awry. Broom certainly did.

Surprisingly Twizzle, Batman Returns is right- you can't expect Vettori et all to spot Haddins gloves clipping the bails from the balcony

no I dont, fair comment

but you also cant expect Haddin to stop and have a think about what happened, its his instinct to appeal and let the umpires do their job

I just find it a bit harsh to accuse him of cheating, especially all the so called experts to seem to know whats in Haddin head,

the fact is they dont

would you accuse a bowler of cheating if he appealed for an LBW and the ball got an inside edge ?

 

[Batman Returns]

Check out the video footage on youtube. Haddin initially celebrates, then goes quiet and looks back up the wicket towards where Clarke is being mobbed by other players. Haddin see's that everyone is treating it as a straightforward bowled, so goes with the flow. The youtube footage is conclusive.

 

[Meth]

I think accusing Haddin of cheating is a bit much. Like I have said, McCallum, in the same position, would have claimed the wicket, knowingly or unknowingly. Haddin is a typical wicketkeeper

Oxenford is the inept one in this situation

 

[Meth]

Check out the video footage on youtube. Haddin initially celebrates, then goes quiet and looks back up the wicket towards where Clarke is being mobbed by other players. Haddin see's that everyone is treating it as a straightforward bowled, so goes with the flow. The youtube footage is conclusive.

Good grief

 

[Twizzle]

Check out the video footage on youtube. Haddin initially celebrates, then goes quiet and looks back up the wicket towards where Clarke is being mobbed by other players. Haddin see's that everyone is treating it as a straightforward bowled, so goes with the flow. The youtube footage is conclusive.

to you maybe