Hagan tips Hayne move

[Stagger eel]

Jarryd Hayne proved to us last year..that with limited ball [thanks to John Morris] he was still able to cross for 17 trys..but next year is a unique year for Jarryd, Benny, Eric and T due to the fact that we've never had a half/Five-eight combo at our club that contained such depth in their passing game combined..I think for that reason we'll get more value out of Jarryd getting fed those long balls by Tim and Finchy..

he's definitely a future fullback/Centre that's no brainer but I just think we've got the Half/five-eight combo to suit him to score more trys in the right wing.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

I also don't think you can say that because Hayne may have misread some plays when defending on the wing and conceded some tries down his side, he will struggle defensivley at fullback - because the defensive demands of the two positions are different.

If he is being exposed on the wing, he'll be more exposed at fullback as he doesn't have players around him in case of a stuff up.

It's not about his general defense, which can be a tad sloppy sometimes, it's more hsi positional play. Experience will help him rectify this though.

 

[strider]

jarryd let in some soft tries on the wing cos he wasn't thinking - poor concentration is no better than being a soft tackler - end result = opposition tries

and i actually agree he may be better suited to defending at fullback - infact i posted something similar earlier

jarryd pulled off some BIG hits - no doubt he can tackle .... but he also showed the propensity to get out of position and let in some soft tries .... I'm not trying to get on his case, just saying he's human like others that stuff up

 

[fish eel]

jarryd let in some soft tries on the wing cos he wasn't thinking - poor concentration is no better than being a soft tackler - end result = opposition tries

and i actually agree he may be better suited to defending at fullback - infact i posted something similar earlier

jarryd pulled off some BIG hits - no doubt he can tackle .... but he also showed the propensity to get out of position and let in some soft tries .... I'm not trying to get on his case, just saying he's human like others that stuff up

Concentration comes with being used to playing at that level, intensity. I think he'll be sweet

 

[The Colonel]

I know defence is a big thing in todays game but I find it funny that we are worried about the defensive capabilities of a winger....... ;-)

 

[fish eel]

If he is being exposed on the wing, he'll be more exposed at fullback as he doesn't have players around him in case of a stuff up.

It's not about his general defense, which can be a tad sloppy sometimes, it's more hsi positional play. Experience will help him rectify this though.

I still think there's a difference though, over the years I've seen more than competant defensive fullbacks get caught out of position on the wing.

I think it is a dead set cert that at some stage, Hayne will wear the number 1.

We're not going to know how he will do until he is given the chance. And I'd suggest at the very least he'd do no worse defensivley than Luke Burt

 

[strider]

I know defence is a big thing in todays game but I find it funny that we are worried about the defensive capabilities of a winger....... ;-)

well there is a sh*tload of tries scored by wingers in rugby league ... maybe if the other wingers were better defenders there'd be less :lol:

... but yeah I know what you mean - I'm not trying to bag jarryd out - i think he's the bee's knees

 

[hineyrulz]

i think hayne will be our long term fullback hopefully for the next 10yrs,he want's to play there so i think he should get first crack. how many players have made a Australian squad after just half a season of footy?

the kid is special and he's handled everything else that's been thrown his way. good to see hagen thinking this way.

 

[Bigfella]

Pretty funny thread.

I don't know whether I should be in the camp that says he can't defend on the wing, so he should stay on the wing, or the one that says that he scored so many tries on the wing that he should move to fullback!

 

[Eelementary]

The more I readd what Hagan has to say, the more impressed I become. Good work!

 

[Eelementary]

I don't think it's so bad to have Reddy start the season at fullback. He has very good positional play, he's big and strong, and he can kick the ball with either foot. Handy.

 

[The Engineers Room]

I think that Hayne lacks the support running skills of Burt. If our forwards pop a ball they are almost always going to find him looming up.

 

[strider]

wade was our best support runner - he was good - he'll be missed in that respect .... tbh i'm not sure about hayne with that - but it seems he can do most other things, so maybe he'd be good

 

[Prodigal Eel]

wade was our best support runner - he was good - he'll be missed in that respect .... tbh i'm not sure about hayne with that - but it seems he can do most other things, so maybe he'd be good

Hayne did play a few times at fullback this year when injuries occured during the game....and at the time i noted to my mates at thte game how he is always there in hope of an offload...he has that part of the game....just on the wing u dont have to do it as much as fullback!

 

[caylo]

Haynes line defence might be questionable, but his last line defence/scrambling defence can't be questions. He positions himself well at the back, when a break occurs, or when a long kick has been placed. In defence i only worry about his urgency to get to low grubbering balls. I don't think he has been out jumped all year, but he looks slugish when retreving grubbers, it might be a mental thing, he may be scared of making a play at it when he isn't needed to... but i think it would be easly fixed id say. His attack, well his stats speak for themselves, he is a try scoring machine, and will score them where ever he plays

 

[The Engineers Room]

I still think alot of you are selling Luke Burt short. He was a better support player than Wade. Simply because of his speed and acceleration. I also saw him pull off quite a few great last line of defence tackles. Jarryd did it once and now his last line defence can't be questioned. It takes more than one effort to say that.

 

[cardinal]

I still think alot of you are selling Luke Burt short. He was a better support player than Wade. Simply because of his speed and acceleration. I also saw him pull off quite a few great last line of defence tackles. Jarryd did it once and now his last line defence can't be questioned. It takes more than one effort to say that.

I have seen Luke make a couple of good last line tackles, but I have seen him make many more half hearted attempts at fullback. With him at fullback I also think he is one of the softest at running the ball back and gaining ground on the kick return. Luke main attributes are his pace when chasing gruber kicks for tries and his goal kicking. Unless someone else steps up to kick goals it maybe this which gets him into first grade.

 

[The Colonel]

With him at fullback I also think he is one of the softest at running the ball back and gaining ground on the kick return.

This really hampered our last few games during the season..... particularly with our lack of props we spent too much time in our own twenty.

We need a fullback who can bring the ball back out beyond the 20 metre zone on a regular basis and Burt doesn't do that.

 

[yy_cheng]

I'm with Cardinal. It's not that I don't like him personally, I just think he is too small and light and sometimes just doesn't go in hard enough. I would have Burt on the wing until he loses the position to a youngster.

Wade may have had brain explosions but he went in hard defensively and could beat players one on one. I was always glad to have wade back there when a line break was made against us.

My backline would be:

1. Reddy
2. Hayne
3. Tahu
4. Smith
5. Grothe
6. Finch
7. Smith

 

[Parraren]

I have a very strong feeling that barring injury, come round 1 2007, Hagan will pick 1-7....

1. Burty
2. Hayne
3. B Smith
4. Tahu
5. Grothe
6. Finch
7. T Smith

I'd almost be willing to bet my left nad on that one.