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Dragon_psa

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Some players we've got from other clubs over the years that went pretty well with us that I can think of off the top of my head:

Bartrim (Gold Coast)
Tingha (Roosters)
Ainscough (Knights)
Kite (Raiders)
Kevin Campion (Gold Coast - was gutted when we lost him after 1 season - was one of the main reasons we made that GF in '96)
Weyman (Raiders)
Sowie (Roosters)
Saffy (Tigers)
Walford (Roosters)
Barnhill (Raiders)
J Smith (Melbourne)
Boyd (Broncos)
Best (sharks)

I'm sure I've missed a few, and discounting the odd dud (Haumono, Pongia, Long etc) we don't have a bad record of improving players we've bought elsewhere.
 

Old_Timer

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Good list there Dragon_psa. Would be nice to have a few of those in the prime and playing with us now.
 

SaintSnow

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Some players we've got from other clubs over the years that went pretty well with us that I can think of off the top of my head:

Bartrim (Gold Coast)
Tingha (Roosters)
Ainscough (Knights)
Kite (Raiders)
Kevin Campion (Gold Coast - was gutted when we lost him after 1 season - was one of the main reasons we made that GF in '96)
Weyman (Raiders)
Sowie (Roosters)
Saffy (Tigers)
Walford (Roosters)
Barnhill (Raiders)
J Smith (Melbourne)
Boyd (Broncos)
Best (sharks)

I'm sure I've missed a few, and discounting the odd dud (Haumono, Pongia, Long etc) we don't have a bad record of improving players we've bought elsewhere.

Darren Treacy (Knights). He was a good, hard player
 

Godz Illa

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Some players we've got from other clubs over the years that went pretty well with us that I can think of off the top of my head:

Bartrim (Gold Coast)
Tingha (Roosters)
Ainscough (Knights)
Kite (Raiders)
Kevin Campion (Gold Coast - was gutted when we lost him after 1 season - was one of the main reasons we made that GF in '96)
Weyman (Raiders)
Sowie (Roosters)
Saffy (Tigers)
Walford (Roosters)
Barnhill (Raiders)
J Smith (Melbourne)
Boyd (Broncos)
Best (sharks)

I'm sure I've missed a few, and discounting the odd dud (Haumono, Pongia, Long etc) we don't have a bad record of improving players we've bought elsewhere.
Mark Bell, Archie Brunker, Nick Zisti, Colin Ward, Corey Pearson, Matt Rodwell, Beau Scott, Matt Bickerstaff, Jonny Green, Nathan Fien, Will Matthews... the list goes on and on.. which is why Old Timer is reduced to vague statements like:
We are still the greatest rugby league club in the world Godz Illa, but we ain't that far ahead of the also rans as we used to be.
 

Old_Timer

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Mark Bell, Archie Brunker, Nick Zisti, Colin Ward, Corey Pearson, Matt Rodwell, Beau Scott, Matt Bickerstaff, Jonny Green, Nathan Fien, Will Matthews... the list goes on and on.. which is why Old Timer is reduced to vague statements like:

Fair critique Godz Illa, but those above et al, are what I would call modern day era players. My comments in reference to our halcyon days still stand. In those days team loyalty really meant something.

Football in the 40's 50's and 60's was a totally different animal to that of today. For one, the competition was run by the NSWRFC and the teams were all sydney based. Country rugby league was flourishing with strong group competitions, The annual city country games were a treat to watch and unearthed a plethora of great talent. Newcastle had a strong local competition, Likewise in Brisbane and the QRL country regions. Have a look through the old Australian Teams, a sprinkling of country players were always in the mix.
So the focus was not just based on the sydney competition that our club belonged to. Trust that makes my position a bit clearer.
 
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Back in the 70s, the game had a "13 import rule" which restricted each club to signing a maximum of 13 players who didn't qualify as local juniors for the club. This was the last attempt by the game to retain some semblance of "player loyalty", e.g. living in and playing for your district. As the game became semi professional and then completely pro after the super league war, club loyalty is now very rare and indeed, and quite a brave stance for any professional sportsman to take.

But I don't see this as a blight on the footballers of today. It's the game that has changed, and the players (and we supporters) have had to change with it.

Many of those that were considered loyal back in the 60s would surely be the mercenaries of today's game, if they were playing now.
 

Slippery Morris

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Hey OT thanks for your comments on rugby league prior to the 80's. I envy you as you had the privelege of witnessing the glory days of the Dragons which made them such a special club. No team will ever match that record in any sport.

Would the biggest rule change you would have witnessed been the change from umlimited tackles to limited tackles? How different would that have been to see. I just can't imagine watching an unlimited tackles game, it would get pretty predictable? Would Saints have been so dominant if they had the limited tackle rule? Did they only change it because they were so good?

I can't believe that had a transfer system and got rid of it. That is ridiculous.
 

Slippery Morris

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Loytalty and playing for your district should be a priority and is what made this game what it is today, hence why they should not allow juniors to be part of the salary cap. And they should also bring back transfer fees.
 

Old_Timer

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.....Would the biggest rule change you would have witnessed been the change from umlimited tackles to limited tackles? How different would that have been to see. I just can't imagine watching an unlimited tackles game, it would get pretty predictable? Would Saints have been so dominant if they had the limited tackle rule? Did they only change it because they were so good?

I can't believe that had a transfer system and got rid of it. That is ridiculous.
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It was a very different game back then Slippery. There was only one referee, the touch judges had seeing eye dogs, no intense tv scrutiny, and the Radio commentators on the whole, acknowledged our divine right to win. Plus it was pretty vicious on the field, but we had players that were absolute masters at inflicting pain on their opponents, the softening up period as it was called. But unlike today what happened on the field stayed on the field. Visiting teams would always come down to the club for a few beers post game.

The unlimited tackle game allowed far more time to set up attacking raids. But in those days you did actually have to hang onto the ball. Early in games we actually used to give the ball to our opponents for the sole purpose of working their forwards over. Once completed (20 minutes or so), the game would then open up for our backs to run riot. As Reg Gasnier used to say, "it was taken for granted that we were 10 points ahead even before we left the sheds". I can only recall our club being humbled once during that period and that was against the touring GB side. In those days the poms had a great footy side.

Now regarding the transfer fee system, well it did serve to put some money in the coffers of clubs that produced the players, mostly country clubs. Now I cannot recall the reason for it's demise, but I think it has something to do with a players restraint of trade.

It just came back to me, the demise of the player transfer system came about as a result of a court case brought on by Dennis Tutty, a Balmain player.
 
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possm

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Hey OT thanks for your comments on rugby league prior to the 80's. I envy you as you had the privelege of witnessing the glory days of the Dragons which made them such a special club. No team will ever match that record in any sport.

Would the biggest rule change you would have witnessed been the change from umlimited tackles to limited tackles? How different would that have been to see. I just can't imagine watching an unlimited tackles game, it would get pretty predictable? Would Saints have been so dominant if they had the limited tackle rule? Did they only change it because they were so good?

I can't believe that had a transfer system and got rid of it. That is ridiculous.

I believe the powers to be in the ARL changed to the 4 tackle rule purely to holt the relentless march of the Dragons. We dominated big time. However, by changing to the 4 tackle rule, our barging forwards with good safe and clever hands were too big, to slow under the new rules.

I would like to see the 13 import rule and the transfer price come back into our game. Surely this would encourage and reward clubs to develop juniors in their district.

By 1960, I was old enough to appreciate the success of the Dragons.
 
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Gippsy

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Now regarding the transfer fee system, well it did serve to put some money in the coffers of clubs that produced the players, mostly country clubs.

The story goes that St George offered the Wollongong club that Graeme Langlands played for a sum of money ($1,000 I think) for every game he played for Australia. They knocked it back of course as he was still a kid, but if they had've accepted it it would've been an absolute goldmine for them.
 

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