Hayne~NFL~RU~Tits~Eels~Dad~Jailed~Mistrial~Jailed~Retrial~Jailed~Appeal~Quashed-Sued~Fat~RMC

[Avenger]

All 3 of these options give us one of the best set of backs in the NRL in 2018:

1. Gutho
2. French
3. Jennings
4. Hayne
5. Auva'a/Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

or
1. French
2. Hayne
3. Jennings
4. Gutho
5. Auva'a/Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

or
1. Hayne
2. French
3. Jennings
4. Gutho
5. Auva'a/Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

During a long season these things have a habit of working out. In saying that I have a feeling that Hayne will play at 6 at some stage of the season.

 

[IFR33K]

I think if we lost Moses or Norman it would cause us a fair bit of grief but the outside backs not so much

Any team that losses it’s first choice 6/7 will struggle some what.

 

[Noise]

Any team that losses it’s first choice 6/7 with struggle some what.

Except the Cowboys it seems

 

[Eelementary]

French and Gutherson briefed on Hayne
Thu 07 Dec, 2017, 5:00pm
By Michael Chammas‌, Chief Reporter‌‌, ‌‌‌NRL.com
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Moments before the Parramatta Eels announced the signing of Jarryd Hayne last week, Brad Arthur called Clint Gutherson and Bevan French in for a meeting.

"We knew straight away when he called us what we were going to have a chat about it," French told NRL.com.

Arthur didn't waste any time addressing the elephant in the room. He didn't want his players, especially two of the players considered an integral part of the long-term future of the club, to feel like discards.

He didn't want them thinking Hayne was returning to rule the roost, so he assured the pair they would be given first crack at the fullback position despite the prodigal son's second coming at Parramatta.

"To hear that from the club, that gives us a bit of confidence that they have the believe in me and Gutho to give us the first crack at it and see how we go," French said during the club's pre-season camp in Alice Springs.

"It makes us want to work harder and make sure we don't stuff it up because of the belief they have in us."

Arthur isn't the only one trying to be up front and honest about a situation that has the potential to turn sour if it isn't treated with honesty and respect between all those involved.

Even though Gutherson and French are in a two-way battle for the No.1 jersey, they have had a private conversation to ensure there isn't any bitterness as they fight for the right to play in their favoured position.

"I said it this year when Gutho came back and went to fullback and I went to wing – I'm happy for Gutho," French said.

"At the end of the day it's what is best for the team, it's a team sport, and if Gutho is better at fullback then he's better at fullback.

"We have had that conversation just me and him individually and he's great about it as well. He said if I get it or if he gets it, there's no drama between anyone. We're not going to be sour about it."

Gutherson had originally earmarked a return from a season-ending ACL injury in the club's opening game of 2018.

But the Eels are reluctant to rush him back from what is his second ACL rupture and have played down the likelihood of Gutherson taking the field against the Penrith Panthers in round one.

Gutherson, who is likely to be back at some point in the first four to six weeks of the season, enjoyed a breakout 2017, showing his versatility in his various stints at fullback, centre and five-eighth before the knee injury brought it all crashing down.

The 23-year-old still doesn't know where he belongs on a football field but feels comfortable in the custodian's role.

"I like fullback, I've played all my junior footy at fullback," Gutherson said as he continued his rehabilitation in the Northern Territory.

"I liked going back there at the end of the year and filling in but I have no idea, to be honest, what position I am. I probably won't know until a couple of years' time when I've locked down a position. In our conversation with Brad, he just said 'nothing has changed'. He's obviously spoken to Jarryd and given him what he's going to do with Jarryd.

"I read the other day that Jarryd's not going to come back and do what he wants. Brad is going to control it. Haynesy is a freak and has been at the top for what seems like 30 years now.

"But he's still only 28 or 29. He's going to come back and offer a lot. He's back to where it all started. He's going to come back and fit in perfectly, I think. I'm just happy to play with him. He was a childhood hero growing up. If I can just play a couple of games with him, no matter where I sit, I'll be happy."

It is understood Hayne is likely to start the season at left centre, but a player of his calibre has the potential to force his way into the fullback role should he manage to rediscover the type of form that led him to win two Dally M medals for the Eels.

"Haynesy in his prime was a fullback at this club and that this club means a lot to him," French said.

"I guess even at the end of the day if Haynesy comes back and is playing fullback over me and Gutho and he's killing it then so be it. If he's killing it, that's what is best for the team."

http://www.nrl.com/french-and-gutherson-briefed-on-hayne/tabid/10874/newsid/116789/default.aspx

Bevan French and Clinton Gutherson are both very impressive young men, imo.

A true credit to this club.

 

[Gary Gutful]

During a long season these things have a habit of working out. In saying that I have a feeling that Hayne will play at 6 at some stage of the season.

Most definitely. Not much of a stretch to see that happening.

 

[Gary Gutful]

All 3 of these options give us one of the best set of backs in the NRL in 2018:

1. Gutho
2. French
3. Jennings
4. Hayne
5. Auva'a/Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

or
1. French
2. Hayne
3. Jennings
4. Gutho
5. Auva'a/Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

or
1. Hayne
2. French
3. Jennings
4. Gutho
5. Auva'a/Hoffman
6. Norman
7. Moses

I like the look of those three backlines.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Bevan French and Clinton Gutherson are both very impressive young men, imo.

A true credit to this club.

They sure are, mate.

 

[hindy111]

Guth
Hayne
Jennings
Taka
French

 

[El Diablo]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...k=2fe75536ad7ce747a893264fbc7fb2cd-1512732434

I still have sand in my vagina, writes Paul Kent

Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph
December 8, 2017 4:52pm

JARRYD Hayne is one of the legitimate characters in the game and one of the few who refuse to commit the greatest sin of all: that of being boring.

Hayne was always up to something. Or something was always happening around him.

Hayne is so engaging he dominates the game itself. So much the commentary around him has become twisted with self-interest and incompetency and pride, while logic seemingly left the building long ago.

It is now impossible to have an honest conversation around Hayne without being charged with driving an agenda or carrying a personal dislike or some other trumped accusation.

But Hayne draws interest, as simple as that.

I could write about him forever. I hope he never retires.

Hayne was enjoying life playing for Fiji, rediscovering his love for rugby league in the World Cup while his new coach at the Gold Coast was getting life ready for Hayne’s return, including hiring old training staff from Parramatta when Hayne used to play there.

It was a sweet deal. Suddenly, after a tough year, it was all back on track.

Hayne was reportedly on an $800,000 contract with another $400,000 in third party deals. He had another year to run on that contract and he was being surrounded by friendly faces.

Then news broke November 1 that Hayne wanted out so he could return to Parramatta.

Hayne denied it the following day, Tweeting: “I have NOT instructed my manager to SPEAK to teams in Sydney. #slownewsday”.

But the news day wasn’t so slow, a deal was done.

Hayne left his $1.2 million deal at the Gold Coast to sign a $500,000 deal with Parramatta. He wanted to be closer to his child and telling the Gold Coast he wanted to be closer to his mates and family in western Sydney.

The NRL has received the contract and this week said it was expected to be registered “shortly”.

For reasons nobody can adequately explain, though, the NRL is quite calmly allowing Hayne’s value _ under what is supposed to be a rigorously applied salary cap _ to be almost halved at his new club.

An NRL spokesman defended the NRL’s actions. Among the explanations were:

The NRL said Hayne was being paid market value for where he is as a player.

Not true, since Hayne never went to market.

That Hayne was no longer worth top money. True, but how big a pay cut?

Little attention was paid to the fact Hayne is a current State of Origin player where there isn’t a player in the squad on $500,000. Josh Dugan, NSW’s other centre, got $900,000 for next season at Cronulla.

The difference between he and Hayne is Dugan went to market, Hayne did not. Yet the NRL was content to accept Parramatta’s evaluation of Hayne’s worth.

The NRL said Hayne came back to the Gold Coast with a bang and after a troubled season his market value was no longer what it was.

Yet market value should have no bearing on contract value.

The NRL said it was well known Hayne was a “disruptive influence” at clubs so that also dropped his value.

So it appears every troubling player at a club is now entitled to a discount.

Faced with logic, the NRL said even I valued Hayne at about $600,000 sometime through the season based on his contributions for the Gold Coast.

Yes, earlier this year on the Matty Johns Show I ran a Dutch auction asking the panel what they would pay for Hayne and it capped out at $600,000. But it was a mug’s opinion.

Hayne’s true value can be established only when market tested.

To justify his falling value the NRL asked who else would want him?

Well, Newcastle is currently negotiating to release Trent Hodkinson, on $650,000 a season, to Manly for about $400,000.

Would the Sea Eagles, who see Hodkinson as a Plan B if Todd Carney is not registered, rather pay $400,000 for Hodkinson to play five-eighth outside Daly Cherry-Evans or $500,000 for Hayne?

We will never know, because Hayne never went to market.

All are logical counters to the NRL’s decision to register Hayne for $500,000.

Yet any query is quickly twisted into allegations of vendettas and agendas.

But it is not about Jarryd Hayne but of yet another example of the NRL’s policy on the run.

It is easy to illustrate.

What if Cooper Cronk had simply announced he had signed with the Roosters for about half his considered value instead of going to market?

Cronk, like Hayne, could also argue the change was for compassionate reasons. He wants to live with his fiancé Tara Rushton after tiring of a long distance relationship. His desire could be measured by his willingness to walk away from the reigning premiers.

But Cronk went to market and the Roosters paid market value.

The market is crucial to the integrity of the salary cap. There are clubs stunned by the NRL’s acceptance of Hayne on a $500,000 contract.

Hayne has probably cost himself hundreds of thousands of dollars by the NRL’s reluctance to insist on a fair process. Parramatta coach Brad Arthur said last week there is still money in the cap left for a front-rower.

It is okay for the NRL to use discretion around its salary cap but its priority must always be towards transparency and the integrity of the game.

My man Hayne is such a massive figure the NRL is easily sucked into the glow of his star power and always happy to oblige, even to his own detriment at times.

Late in the 2016 season Manly’s Bob Fulton tried to sign Frank Winterstein but was told, sorry, it was after the June 30 deadline.

Then in August 2016 Hayne announced he was returning to league. The NRL gladly ushered him in.

Fulton picked up the phone to headquarters.

“Send in the paperwork again,” he was told. At least they had the courtesy to blush.

 

[IFR33K]

Haha. Kent the valuer.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...k=2fe75536ad7ce747a893264fbc7fb2cd-1512732434

I still have sand in my vagina, writes Paul Kent

Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph
December 8, 2017 4:52pm

JARRYD Hayne is one of the legitimate characters in the game and one of the few who refuse to commit the greatest sin of all: that of being boring.

Hayne was always up to something. Or something was always happening around him.

Hayne is so engaging he dominates the game itself. So much the commentary around him has become twisted with self-interest and incompetency and pride, while logic seemingly left the building long ago.

It is now impossible to have an honest conversation around Hayne without being charged with driving an agenda or carrying a personal dislike or some other trumped accusation.

But Hayne draws interest, as simple as that.

I could write about him forever. I hope he never retires.

Hayne was enjoying life playing for Fiji, rediscovering his love for rugby league in the World Cup while his new coach at the Gold Coast was getting life ready for Hayne’s return, including hiring old training staff from Parramatta when Hayne used to play there.

It was a sweet deal. Suddenly, after a tough year, it was all back on track.

Hayne was reportedly on an $800,000 contract with another $400,000 in third party deals. He had another year to run on that contract and he was being surrounded by friendly faces.

Then news broke November 1 that Hayne wanted out so he could return to Parramatta.

Hayne denied it the following day, Tweeting: “I have NOT instructed my manager to SPEAK to teams in Sydney. #slownewsday”.

But the news day wasn’t so slow, a deal was done.

Hayne left his $1.2 million deal at the Gold Coast to sign a $500,000 deal with Parramatta. He wanted to be closer to his child and telling the Gold Coast he wanted to be closer to his mates and family in western Sydney.

The NRL has received the contract and this week said it was expected to be registered “shortly”.

For reasons nobody can adequately explain, though, the NRL is quite calmly allowing Hayne’s value _ under what is supposed to be a rigorously applied salary cap _ to be almost halved at his new club.

An NRL spokesman defended the NRL’s actions. Among the explanations were:

The NRL said Hayne was being paid market value for where he is as a player.

Not true, since Hayne never went to market.

That Hayne was no longer worth top money. True, but how big a pay cut?

Little attention was paid to the fact Hayne is a current State of Origin player where there isn’t a player in the squad on $500,000. Josh Dugan, NSW’s other centre, got $900,000 for next season at Cronulla.

The difference between he and Hayne is Dugan went to market, Hayne did not. Yet the NRL was content to accept Parramatta’s evaluation of Hayne’s worth.

The NRL said Hayne came back to the Gold Coast with a bang and after a troubled season his market value was no longer what it was.

Yet market value should have no bearing on contract value.

The NRL said it was well known Hayne was a “disruptive influence” at clubs so that also dropped his value.

So it appears every troubling player at a club is now entitled to a discount.

Faced with logic, the NRL said even I valued Hayne at about $600,000 sometime through the season based on his contributions for the Gold Coast.

Yes, earlier this year on the Matty Johns Show I ran a Dutch auction asking the panel what they would pay for Hayne and it capped out at $600,000. But it was a mug’s opinion.

Hayne’s true value can be established only when market tested.

To justify his falling value the NRL asked who else would want him?

Well, Newcastle is currently negotiating to release Trent Hodkinson, on $650,000 a season, to Manly for about $400,000.

Would the Sea Eagles, who see Hodkinson as a Plan B if Todd Carney is not registered, rather pay $400,000 for Hodkinson to play five-eighth outside Daly Cherry-Evans or $500,000 for Hayne?

We will never know, because Hayne never went to market.

All are logical counters to the NRL’s decision to register Hayne for $500,000.

Yet any query is quickly twisted into allegations of vendettas and agendas.

But it is not about Jarryd Hayne but of yet another example of the NRL’s policy on the run.

It is easy to illustrate.

What if Cooper Cronk had simply announced he had signed with the Roosters for about half his considered value instead of going to market?

Cronk, like Hayne, could also argue the change was for compassionate reasons. He wants to live with his fiancé Tara Rushton after tiring of a long distance relationship. His desire could be measured by his willingness to walk away from the reigning premiers.

But Cronk went to market and the Roosters paid market value.

The market is crucial to the integrity of the salary cap. There are clubs stunned by the NRL’s acceptance of Hayne on a $500,000 contract.

Hayne has probably cost himself hundreds of thousands of dollars by the NRL’s reluctance to insist on a fair process. Parramatta coach Brad Arthur said last week there is still money in the cap left for a front-rower.

It is okay for the NRL to use discretion around its salary cap but its priority must always be towards transparency and the integrity of the game.

My man Hayne is such a massive figure the NRL is easily sucked into the glow of his star power and always happy to oblige, even to his own detriment at times.

Late in the 2016 season Manly’s Bob Fulton tried to sign Frank Winterstein but was told, sorry, it was after the June 30 deadline.

Then in August 2016 Hayne announced he was returning to league. The NRL gladly ushered him in.

Fulton picked up the phone to headquarters.

“Send in the paperwork again,” he was told. At least they had the courtesy to blush.

I f**ken love Paul Kent. I hope someone tells him that another club offered Hayne two million bucks.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What a f**king germ. Does he really think Hayne's manager didn't tell every club in Sydney he was about to walk out on the Titans and ask how much they were willing to pay? They didn't need to wait until the Titans announced the release before making an offer, any more than Parra did.

And what if Hayne was desperate to live in Brisbane, or Townsville, or Melbourne? Those clubs could lowball him with impunity if he was making a location based career decision. At least in Sydney there is some competition driving prices up.

The reason we got Hayne cheap would've been because nobody else had space left in their cap, not because he didn't go to market.

 

[hineyrulz]

So Hayne was only on a contract worth 800k???

TPA's don't come in to it when concerning a players value, Paul Kent knows this yet he continues with his petty agenda's. What a maggot. Most RL people i have spoke to still reckon he is a big enough risk at 500K and wouldn't him at their club. He only went for 500k because no other club really wanted him and only BA was willing to role the dice and give him another chance. And would he really be willing to take a 700k pay cut to play at another club besides Parra???

 

[hineyrulz]

I love how he uses Cronk as an example, apparently he is only on the cap for 850k next season. Surely he is worth plenty more than that when you factor in Hunt on 1.2m and DCE on plenty more than that even???

But that doesn't suit his agenda so he has no problem with it.

 

[Gary Gutful]

He needs to let it go.

 

[strider]

He needs to grow a bain

His logic is, maket value is 600k cos he asked 4 retired jokers on a footy show. But he is giving up hunreds of thousands signing for 500k. Huh?

How does he know he wasnt offered around?

TBH I dont think he knows what he is arguing ... he just has the shits

 

[Eelementary]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...k=2fe75536ad7ce747a893264fbc7fb2cd-1512732434

I still have sand in my vagina, writes Paul Kent

Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph
December 8, 2017 4:52pm

JARRYD Hayne is one of the legitimate characters in the game and one of the few who refuse to commit the greatest sin of all: that of being boring.

Hayne was always up to something. Or something was always happening around him.

Hayne is so engaging he dominates the game itself. So much the commentary around him has become twisted with self-interest and incompetency and pride, while logic seemingly left the building long ago.

It is now impossible to have an honest conversation around Hayne without being charged with driving an agenda or carrying a personal dislike or some other trumped accusation.

But Hayne draws interest, as simple as that.

I could write about him forever. I hope he never retires.

Hayne was enjoying life playing for Fiji, rediscovering his love for rugby league in the World Cup while his new coach at the Gold Coast was getting life ready for Hayne’s return, including hiring old training staff from Parramatta when Hayne used to play there.

It was a sweet deal. Suddenly, after a tough year, it was all back on track.

Hayne was reportedly on an $800,000 contract with another $400,000 in third party deals. He had another year to run on that contract and he was being surrounded by friendly faces.

Then news broke November 1 that Hayne wanted out so he could return to Parramatta.

Hayne denied it the following day, Tweeting: “I have NOT instructed my manager to SPEAK to teams in Sydney. #slownewsday”.

But the news day wasn’t so slow, a deal was done.

Hayne left his $1.2 million deal at the Gold Coast to sign a $500,000 deal with Parramatta. He wanted to be closer to his child and telling the Gold Coast he wanted to be closer to his mates and family in western Sydney.

The NRL has received the contract and this week said it was expected to be registered “shortly”.

For reasons nobody can adequately explain, though, the NRL is quite calmly allowing Hayne’s value _ under what is supposed to be a rigorously applied salary cap _ to be almost halved at his new club.

An NRL spokesman defended the NRL’s actions. Among the explanations were:

The NRL said Hayne was being paid market value for where he is as a player.

Not true, since Hayne never went to market.

That Hayne was no longer worth top money. True, but how big a pay cut?

Little attention was paid to the fact Hayne is a current State of Origin player where there isn’t a player in the squad on $500,000. Josh Dugan, NSW’s other centre, got $900,000 for next season at Cronulla.

The difference between he and Hayne is Dugan went to market, Hayne did not. Yet the NRL was content to accept Parramatta’s evaluation of Hayne’s worth.

The NRL said Hayne came back to the Gold Coast with a bang and after a troubled season his market value was no longer what it was.

Yet market value should have no bearing on contract value.

The NRL said it was well known Hayne was a “disruptive influence” at clubs so that also dropped his value.

So it appears every troubling player at a club is now entitled to a discount.

Faced with logic, the NRL said even I valued Hayne at about $600,000 sometime through the season based on his contributions for the Gold Coast.

Yes, earlier this year on the Matty Johns Show I ran a Dutch auction asking the panel what they would pay for Hayne and it capped out at $600,000. But it was a mug’s opinion.

Hayne’s true value can be established only when market tested.

To justify his falling value the NRL asked who else would want him?

Well, Newcastle is currently negotiating to release Trent Hodkinson, on $650,000 a season, to Manly for about $400,000.

Would the Sea Eagles, who see Hodkinson as a Plan B if Todd Carney is not registered, rather pay $400,000 for Hodkinson to play five-eighth outside Daly Cherry-Evans or $500,000 for Hayne?

We will never know, because Hayne never went to market.

All are logical counters to the NRL’s decision to register Hayne for $500,000.

Yet any query is quickly twisted into allegations of vendettas and agendas.

But it is not about Jarryd Hayne but of yet another example of the NRL’s policy on the run.

It is easy to illustrate.

What if Cooper Cronk had simply announced he had signed with the Roosters for about half his considered value instead of going to market?

Cronk, like Hayne, could also argue the change was for compassionate reasons. He wants to live with his fiancé Tara Rushton after tiring of a long distance relationship. His desire could be measured by his willingness to walk away from the reigning premiers.

But Cronk went to market and the Roosters paid market value.

The market is crucial to the integrity of the salary cap. There are clubs stunned by the NRL’s acceptance of Hayne on a $500,000 contract.

Hayne has probably cost himself hundreds of thousands of dollars by the NRL’s reluctance to insist on a fair process. Parramatta coach Brad Arthur said last week there is still money in the cap left for a front-rower.

It is okay for the NRL to use discretion around its salary cap but its priority must always be towards transparency and the integrity of the game.

My man Hayne is such a massive figure the NRL is easily sucked into the glow of his star power and always happy to oblige, even to his own detriment at times.

Late in the 2016 season Manly’s Bob Fulton tried to sign Frank Winterstein but was told, sorry, it was after the June 30 deadline.

Then in August 2016 Hayne announced he was returning to league. The NRL gladly ushered him in.

Fulton picked up the phone to headquarters.

“Send in the paperwork again,” he was told. At least they had the courtesy to blush.

He has a point, though - the NRL is a joke.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Sam Kasiano took a pay cut to sign with the storm:

"“Sam actually took a pay cut to be at the Melbourne Storm. That’s how much he actually liked it.”"

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...n/news-story/a04cc25e22853d53cb3113658f2baded

So why not the Kenty up roar about that ?

 

[Lemon Squash]

He had a blowup about this with Buzz ‘bloated corpse’ Rothfield on NRL360 last week... first time I can ever remember agreeing with Rothfield.

He seems filthy about something that no-one else really seems to think is that big of a deal and wants to keep pushing his own agenda because he loves the smell of his own farts.

merkin fact is no other club wanted to touch Hayne... the Titans could have kept him there on the books but they chose not to.

There’s been rumours for months that Hayne wanted out and the Titans would be happy to accomodate his wish. Any club that did even have an ounce of interest would have enquired. Even if someone did make a bid of 600k then it’s still only 100k off what he is getting... IT’S A NOTHING STORY YOU merkin RASH, JUST TAKE A HINT THAT NO ONE CARES! FFS

I saw Benji Marshall interviewed on his first day back at training with the Tigers. He took a call from Cleary and he agreed to come back to them without even talking dollars. It’s said that the deal he is on is around the 100k mark, now you could quite easily argue that what Benji produced for Brisbane this year was equal to or not even greater than what Hayne did for the Titans.

He didn’t ‘go to market’ either Kent, is that a crime as well? Maybe someone would have offered him 150?? Maybe, but who the F*ck cares!! he wanted to go back to that club and he was happy with whatever they were going to offer.

Also all the press that has leaked from this still makes out Hayne to be the bad guy somehow. Kent should of made it clear from the start he was just using this as an example and that his gripe is with the NRL not Hayne.

 

[Gronk]

Sam Kasiano took a pay cut to sign with the storm:

"“Sam actually took a pay cut to be at the Melbourne Storm. That’s how much he actually liked it.”"

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...n/news-story/a04cc25e22853d53cb3113658f2baded

So why not the Kenty up roar about that ?

Yes and nearly every Broncos contract.

They are just trying to keep the NRL stories running over the summer.

Shut up Kent, nobody cares what you think.