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Hodges view from the sideline next week

RoosTah

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Didn't the judiciary ban Burgess for throwing a water bottle? If Hodges is allowed to play then they'll go from looking silly to down right mad. They have to ban him. That said, he's a rank c##t, so it couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
 

Bronco18

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Be very interesting to see if Bennett will go down the road of saying that the player being tackled contributed to the tackle.

Good point, Bennett's deliberately been obtuse since the post match press conference. I think he'll just keep his mouth shut on the issue.
 

Snappy

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Be very interesting to see if Bennett will go down the road of saying that the player being tackled contributed to the tackle.

Well considering the tackled player is saying the same thing, I cant see what the issue would be.
 

oldmancraigy

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Be very interesting to see if Bennett will go down the road of saying that the player being tackled contributed to the tackle.

Hodges has already done that hasn't he?

He said he was diving. I would've thought after Cam Smith's comment along similar lines was deemed stenchworthy, nobody would use that argument again...

Cannot see how Hodges will get off? It was a shocker.
His right hand is between Guerra's legs, and his left hand lifts him off the ground. Fairly simple decision - not worth appealing, but considering Hodges length of suspension is irrelevant, he might as well have a go.
 
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Frank_Grimes

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Hodges has already done that hasn't he?

He said he was diving. I would've thought after Cam Smith's comment along similar lines was deemed stenchworthy, nobody would use that argument again...

Except Guerra has admitted himself that he was playing for the penalty. It's not an argument - it's a FACT.

Cannot see how Hodges will get off? It was a shocker.
His right hand is between Guerra's legs, and his left hand lifts him off the ground. Fairly simple decision - not worth appealing, but considering Hodges length of suspension is irrelevant, he might as well have a go.

It's astounding in this technological age how many people will speak with certainty about an incident despite not watching the countless video replays available. Hodges never has his hands between Guerra's legs, he grabs his ankle, then Guerra springs off his right leg and Hunt drags his upper half down.
 

aussie7798

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Hodges has already done that hasn't he?

He said he was diving. I would've thought after Cam Smith's comment along similar lines was deemed stenchworthy, nobody would use that argument again...

Cannot see how Hodges will get off? It was a shocker.
His right hand is between Guerra's legs, and his left hand lifts him off the ground. Fairly simple decision - not worth appealing, but considering Hodges length of suspension is irrelevant, he might as well have a go.

at no point is his right hand in between his legs
he only has a grip on the ankle if there is any lift it is very small and it appears Guerra attempts to move forward causing the overbalance

I'm no hodges fan but no way that deserves a suspension
 

Snappy

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I seem to recall Bennett being a little upset about the storm using the exact same defence re: Alex McKinnon.

The difference being that Guerra admitted he could have resisted it if he tried and that he deliberately jumped to play for a penalty. Hardly the same now is it.

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Rabbits20

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He should miss out, maybe its Karma for the pretend tough guy he plays at.
But the precendent has been set with Burge$$ not charged last year he should have been suspended after the hit on SBW.

I would not bet on either outcome at the moment.

What Burgess did last year happens 50 times a match. Nothing in it.

Roosters do the same as what Burgess did every week and don't get penalised which is fair enough.


Lifting the leg/s is very dangerous.

Issac missed the GF and had carry over points.

Hodges has carry over points too and for what he did he deserves to miss the GF. Unfortunate it is but there are rules in place.
 
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bfoord

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Didn't the judiciary ban Burgess for throwing a water bottle? If Hodges is allowed to play then they'll go from looking silly to down right mad. They have to ban him. That said, he's a rank c##t, so it couldn't happen to a nicer bloke

Yeah ... But then they let Pritchard off for dropping the knees squarely in the back of Widdop. Upholding the dodgy knee defence lol.

The judiciary is a joke, has been for a very long time.
 

Lambretta

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I have to ask why so many people just assume Hodges will get off, is it just Broncos hate causing these rants ... finding Broncos players guilty is about the only thing the judiciary are consistent on...

The Broncos success rate at the judiciary is 7% it is by far the worst of any club in the NRL. In their last 14 trips to the judiciary they have had just 1 success.

in fact their record is so bad that they don't even contest charges where their players have good cases.

take Blair's suspension this year ... he was charged for a shoulder charge ... based on the charge alone, he should have gotten off. was it high sure, but he wasn't charged with a high tackle. under NRL rules what he did was not a shoulder charge ... the MRC f**ked up in the charge, but since the club knew what the outcome would be, they opted to take the lighter sentence.

I will be genuinely shocked if he is free to play in the GF ... the judiciary have never done us any favours in that past, so why would they start now

There are usually more NSW players on the panel than Queenslanders, so the Broncos know not to bother. It's utterly f**ked, but it seems to be the way they look at things. It's how they judge fouls committed by Australian and Kiwi players before Tests btw.

In Hodges favour is that Guerra has stated it was all his fault and not Hodges. He was looking for a penalty and caused the issue and Justin didn't do anything wrong.

Against Hodges is that most neutrals want the Cowboys to win, so if the judiciary aren't dyed in the wool Broncos fans they'll rub Hodges out just to give the Cowboys greater opportunity

Justin will test the judiciary anyway because if he doesn't that's his retirement

I hope he plays. Jokes aside, he's been a champion player for so long and he deserves to play. The tackle was nothing.
 

drago brelli

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Forget Hodges.....things are falling into place for Far North Queensland Cowboys.....32 degs on Sunday + Thurston walks on water.
 

JamesRustle

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Pretty sure now we have an independent commission and that professional approach is slowly but surely flowing through all levels of the administration, that the MRC won't be taking a mates testimony over the facts to be determined by the evidence. Hopefully they don't have flick through LU before making a final decision as Hodges might be timed out of the GF with all this crap to sift through.

Good luck to Hodges, but he's not the first or last to be in this position.
 

JamesRustle

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Yeah ... But then they let Pritchard off for dropping the knees squarely in the back of Widdop. Upholding the dodgy knee defence lol.

The judiciary is a joke, has been for a very long time.

I didn't notice strapping on Hodges knee, but it was visible on the left wrist. I hope he employs the dodgy and/or limp wrist defence.
 
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Well Andrew Webster over at the Sydney Morning Herald reckons he should be suspended -

Brisbane Broncos centre Justin Hodges a top bloke but must not be allowed to face Cowboys in NRL grand final

Date: September 28, 2015 - 1:00PM
by Andrew Webster
Chief Sports Writer, The Sydney Morning Herald

The greatest myth this side of Seaworld is Justin Hodges isn't a good person.

This column has an enduring memory of our misunderstood Queensland friend: after the Kangaroos beat England in the Four Nations final, Hodges approached the reporters on the tour in the bar of the team hotel and bought them a beer.

A player buying a reporter a beer? The defence rests, Your Honour.

No, for all the NSW hatred around the veteran centre – especially when he's wearing a maroon jersey, mouthing off like he did that night when he told Danny Buderus he was the second-best hooker in the game - the truth is most players like him.

Annoying lunatic on the field, affable person off it. That's the story of Justin Hodges. Should he be allowed to play in the grand final so he can win a premiership in his final match?
Of course not.

He will contest his grade-one dangerous throw charge at the judiciary on Tuesday night, and it will barely raise an eyebrow if the panel of three former players clear him to play because they know what's at stake.

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Then again, a panel of former players did ban George Burgess for flinging a water bottle into the ground).

But none of this should matter.

Doubtless, the Broncos' legal team will show frame after frame of the incident like it's recreating the JFK assassination. It will roll out similar examples of tackles throughout the season that have attracted no charge.

But the compelling evidence will remain for all to see: that Hodges grabbed the left leg of Roosters back-rower Aidan Guerra, and then helped ram him head-first into the ground. Naughty, Hodgo. Naughty.

Showing that Queenslanders stick together, Guerra has admitted he "was playing for the penalty" and that his Maroons teammate should not miss the grand final. The "Free Hodgo" campaign is underway.

Granted, the tackle wasn't in the same postcode as Issac Luke's dangerous throw on Roosters star Sonny Bill Williams in last year's preliminary final, which cost the Souths hooker a grand final appearance and premiership.

Hodges' tackle was an accident but it was still dangerous. The modern-day edict for defenders is to grab a ball carrier's leg – "split the legs" – and put him off balance. The issue is that sometimes the attacking player face-plants.

The argument that he's going to miss a grand final and this will be his last match doesn't wash. That's not how justice works in this town. Hodges will have to take solace that he finishes career with nothing left to prove.

Broncos coach Wayne Bennett adores Hodges, who came back to the coach and the club in 2005 after three years of sin at the Roosters.

Bennett loves a problem child. He put Hodges back together again and they went on to win a premiership together in 2006. Hodges earned his first Kangaroos jumper soon after and became an Origin mainstay.

He famously tried to fight the entire NSW team in that fiery Origin dead rubber in 2009, but beneath all that anger is an often unseen respect for Hodges.

At most Blues opposed sessions in the last few years, the name you hear yelled out the most isn't Thurston, Cronk or even Smith. It is Hodges, because there are few players as lethal out of dummy-half.

Despite this, the good rugby league folk of NSW will want Hodges rubbed out. He's about as popular in Sydney as a parking cop.

With two Queensland sides playing in a grand final for the first time, NSW is suffering from relevancy deprivation syndrome. It's like being a Kardashian without Instagram.

Fear not, Sydneysiders. There are other reasons to tune in on Sunday night apart from Cold Chisel belting out Flame Trees as part of the pre-match entertainment. This is the grand final the NRL had to have for two reasons.

First, there's the football. Two aggressive packs that remind me of monster trucks: enormous and mobile and they crush smaller trucks that get in their way. If Jason Taumalolo isn't related to a monster truck, who is?

Meanwhile, immortality beckons – not just in the eyes of Rugby League Week but maybe even God himself – if Johnathan Thurston can lead the Cowboys to their breakthrough premiership.

On the other side of the trench, though, stands Ben Hunt, whose form must have not only awakened Queensland selectors but Kangaroos and Maroons halfback Cooper Cronk, too. And Daly Cherry-Evans.

If anyone can find the hidden stud farm that's spitting out world-class playmakers up there, please let Laurie Daley know.

The whimsical way Hunt and Anthony Milford are playing footy reminds me of Andrew and Matthew Johns at Marathon Stadium in the 1990s, when they just played.

Aside from the footy, what appeals most about this grand final is it doesn't have any anger. Haters are going to hate, it's been said, but not in this game. Not from this vantage point, anyway.

There will be some chatter about Bennett and how the Cowboys once snubbed him as coach because "I was too old", and also his recent attack on Thurston over the potential boycotting of the Dally Ms.

Watch for the Bennett smokescreen this week, sports fans. No coach creates a diversion for his players like the 65-year-old around big games.
But this is all small fry compared to what might've been had the Storm sneaked through to play the Broncos, with Bennett's fallout with Craig Bellamy and Cameron Smith's anger with Channel Nine all issues that still linger.

There would've been talk all week about something called "the wrestle", too. Instead, we can just focus on the footy and Chisel … as soon as they work out what to do with Hodges.

The gif in the above was published in the article online.
 

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