How dumb are Parra

[fish eel]

So what your saying is we have depth in Junior Quantity and Talent, we just don't know how to de3velopment into start-studded Players. Inu making the Kiwis Side and Hayne making an appearance in Origin in 2007 would knock-back that statement.

Neither playing going anywhere near their potential.

Inu has gone backwards since 07.

 

[Tom Shines]

how dumb is the stupid asshole who tipped them in an upset?

jesus christ. what the f**k was i thinking?

Glad to see I wasnt alone. What a f**k up of epic proportions.

 

[Kiki]

the thing about their talented backs, is as other people have said, they haven't done all that much in awhile. i really don't understand it.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Well we'll see how Finch goes at the Storm their aren't too many halfbacks who go well in a legless team.

 

[Mr Saab]

Hagan, Eels & Knights fans should lynch the bastard!

The worst coach ever to win a GF.

 

[The Colonel]

Well we'll see how Finch goes at the Storm their aren't too many halfbacks who go well in a legless team.

There certainly aren't but when Finch will more than likely play 5/8 it won't make a hell of a lot of difference. He has played his best football with Fittler, Laurie Daley and to a lesser extent Tim Smith running the show.

Melbourne, with Finch in the team, will be a better team for his inclusion. Inglis will play wider with Cronk and Smith running the show. They'll probably win the premiership too. But it won't be because Finch is running the show..... it will be becuase he can play his own game and not be a dominant playmaker.

 

[Phillips]

lol Parrascum

what a pathetic excuse of a football team

Dont you have someone to mug or something?

 

[watatank]

But it won't be because Finch is running the show..... it will be becuase he can play his own game and not be a dominant playmaker.

Why was everyone expecting Finch to be a dominant playmaker?

 

[PJ Marshal]

the thing about their talented backs, is as other people have said, they haven't done all that much in awhile. i really don't understand it.

its because they are starved of decent ball....Inu if he could get some clean ball would murder just about every backline in the competition. He is being played out of form by the men inside of him

Even the likes of Folau would struggle to score in our side

Inu would star in any other side....except cronulla they suck balls

 

[Slackboy72]

In all respect I have no problem with letting Finch go. He was mediocre at best. Nothing wrong with that.
But after 4 rounds?
And Mateo and Hayne at 5/8 was not a winning move.
They have some young halves. They should have kept Finch on and brought on Mortimer and Keating slowly under his guidance. The year is now a write-off and these two kids will be thrown to the wolves.
Poor man management by the club and Daniel Anderson. Poor attitude from Finch.
Everyone loses. Especially the season ticket holders who now hold onto something as worthless as confetti.

 

[The Colonel]

Why was everyone expecting Finch to be a dominant playmaker?

Parramatta signed Finch to play 5/8 outside Tim Smith. Tim, for what ever reasons, f**ked off to the Gold Coast and then overseas and left us with little choice in the halves other than Finch.

We had two decent young halves in James Maloney and Trent Hodkinson who could have been brought in to fill the void - Maloney in particular but in his wisdom Hagan decided to sign Finch to a three year deal and leave Hodkinson and Maloney to their own devices. They subsequently signed with Manly and Melbourne respectively.

We now have a lock playing 5/8, a 27 year old halfback that couldn't crack first grade at Manly for five years outside of Orford being injured and a young 5/8 who actually looked pretty decent with the ball in his hands on Sunday. All three played better than Finch did in the previous weeks.

If our soft c**k forwards could aim up in defence when we lose the one bloke in the team that usually does we'll probably win some games. The side that gets announced on Tuesday will hopefully have the first of quite a few changes.

This year, for mine at least, was always going to be a rebuilding year. Finch couldn't accept the fact that he would be unwanted beyond next season and may have to face a few games in Wenty. The timing may not have been the best from Anderson but he needs to sort out the sh*t from the gravel and build a team for next year.

 

[Timmah]

I still don't buy people blaming Anderson for the capitulation - the players are the ones not giving 100%. And to be perfectly fair there's a couple out there who are, but they're getting no support from the men around them.

 

[Didgi]

Hindmarsh and a couple of others are working their arses off to make up for the others patheticism, but it's not working. A sh*t go-forward pack, coupled with sh*t passes, sh*t handling and sh*t playmakers, makes an allround pretty sh*tty team.

 

[The Colonel]

Hindmarsh and a couple of others are working their arses off to make up for the others patheticism, but it's not working. A sh*t go-forward pack, coupled with sh*t passes, sh*t handling and sh*t playmakers, makes an allround pretty sh*tty team.

Despite the flogging yesterday Parramatta actually lead all the "big" stats - possession, metres gained, missed tackles, time in opposition twenty - they just couldn't turn it into points.

They will win games this season if they can defend well and turn up for more than twenty minutes at a time. It is just the calibre of players that we have are either better suited as depth or just learning the art of first grade or youngsters getting big paypackets before they've earned them.

 

[RainMan]

What would Hayne and Inu be on? $300k+ a year? I thought I read somewhere on here when they signed that they were basically allowed to write their own cheques?

 

[hineyrulz]

We scored 18 points yesterday, more than we would have had with that hack Finch at halfback. Him not being there had nothing to do with the loss. Hindmarsh not being there was a much bigger loss, he is not the player he was but he is still the best player we have.


Also is it Anderson's fault he decided to tell Finch a few home truth's and he spat the dummy is pissed off???? No one should be an automatic selection in first grade no matter who they are. That was Parra's biggest problem last year, lets hope a few more of these imposters are dropped and some young blokes who give a toss given a go.

 

[The Colonel]

What would Hayne and Inu be on? $300k+ a year? I thought I read somewhere on here when they signed that they were basically allowed to write their own cheques?

Hindmarsh isn't the highest paid player in the club apparently..... that title depending on who you talk to goes to Hayne. That said there is supposedly players within the squad who are probably earning three times as much as most average first graders are earning thanks to Hagan - which seems pretty consistent with his time in Newcastle. A few of them will be looking elsewhere next year thanks to Anderson.

 

[Red Bear]

If the rumours from ABC are correct about Anderson not even watching parra properly in the leadup due to 'wanting no pre-conceived notions' he's an idiot as well. If he'd seen something he didnt like he could have changed it in the offseason, rather than going 4 games in before f**king around.

 

[The Colonel]

If the rumours from ABC are correct about Anderson not even watching parra properly in the leadup due to 'wanting no pre-conceived notions' he's an idiot as well. If he'd seen something he didnt like he could have changed it in the offseason, rather than going 4 games in before f**king around.

What really did he have to watch? He took over in November.....

 

[watatank]

Parramatta signed Finch to play 5/8 outside Tim Smith. Tim, for what ever reasons, f**ked off to the Gold Coast and then overseas and left us with little choice in the halves other than Finch.

We had two decent young halves in James Maloney and Trent Hodkinson who could have been brought in to fill the void - Maloney in particular but in his wisdom Hagan decided to sign Finch to a three year deal and leave Hodkinson and Maloney to their own devices. They subsequently signed with Manly and Melbourne respectively.

We now have a lock playing 5/8, a 27 year old halfback that couldn't crack first grade at Manly for five years outside of Orford being injured and a young 5/8 who actually looked pretty decent with the ball in his hands on Sunday. All three played better than Finch did in the previous weeks.

If our soft c**k forwards could aim up in defence when we lose the one bloke in the team that usually does we'll probably win some games. The side that gets announced on Tuesday will hopefully have the first of quite a few changes.

This year, for mine at least, was always going to be a rebuilding year. Finch couldn't accept the fact that he would be unwanted beyond next season and may have to face a few games in Wenty. The timing may not have been the best from Anderson but he needs to sort out the sh*t from the gravel and build a team for next year.

tbh I am an outsider looking in so I don't really know what the club's dealings are with players and such so I will concentrate on what I have seen on the field. Perhaps it plays a huge part in this, perhaps not...

The way I saw it...I am not sure Finch was surrounded by the right players at the start of the year. From what I saw of Parra at the start of the year, Finch was basically THE focal point of the team, chief organiser and playmaker. He's a very good organiser and ok playmaker if you have some more creative players around him. He was poor but was never a great chance to succeed within the structure in place IMO because the structure was such that he needed to be a better player than he is. You basically had Mateo playing as a running forward and Hayne in between a second fullback and five eighth and struggling to find his place in either role and not really doing much. You had KK wasted making cameos off the bench. Then of course you had Finch who was supposed to basically do everything and gets crucified when he doesn't.

Fast forward to the Finch sacking and what happens the next game is that the structure of the team changed. The Hayne experiment ended and you made a few changes. The players who have replaced Finch may or may not have been outperforming him but they are playing under a completely different structure IMO so it's a hard comparison to make. You have more players sharing the organising/playmaking workload. Mateo provided more creativity, Robson has a relatively basic role in organising the team and passing to whoever is five eighth and then you have KK coming in playing more of a role in the side when he comes on. You also had Burt chiming in much more from the back. Why was Finch never afforded this change? You also had the players to do it as well...Now Parra is basically paying him to play for another team while appearing to be no better for it. Neither of your halves are long term options and the likely long term options are inexperienced and a while away from coming good.