How many weeks will Gallen get?

[Dazzat]

lewis doesn't need to be defended. greatest i've seen in watching 35+ years of this game. just one alteration to your post, might have not won any premierships with valleys, but took them to a lot of preliminary finals.

Two premierships with Wynnum-Manly though.

 

[Amadaca]

... and that's what made the dominance of Wally Lewis at Origin level all the more sweeter ... the fact that he came from the BRL - a competition that NSWers considered far inferior to their own.

That drove them crazy. How can this bloke called Wally emerge from the "bogan" village of the BRL and make our players look like boys? It was priceless.

Paul Gallen's attempt to walk in Lewis' shoes is funny. Makes me laugh.

What do you mean considered? You say that like its subjective.


There's no such thing as a New South Welsher.

No one is challenging Lewis' greatness in Origin --- in fact I added to his rep by saying he should get more credit for his games for Australia --- but it cuts both ways. He is way, way behind the likes of Johns, Lockyer, Fittler, Daley, Smith & other greats on a week-to-week basis. Don't act as though it isn't the truth.

 

[Dazzat]

From someone who knows:

"Lewis has to be number one because he’s the only bloke who dominated the game at the highest level, in State of Origin, over a long period."[25] Ray Warren, Australian sports commentator.

 

[Amadaca]

I see a lot of excuses & one line of complete bullshit (trying to use the BRL to talk Lewis up).

Please explain why explaining the FACT that Lewis played for a decade in the BRL - as a dominating player - BS?

You know & I know that wasn't the NSWRL.

 

[Amadaca]

From someone who knows:

"Lewis has to be number one because he?s the only bloke who dominated the game at the highest level, in State of Origin, over a long period."[25] Ray Warren, Australian sports commentator.

Yet another tribute carefully-worded to focus exclusively on Origin football.

Leaving aside the fact Warren isn't an analyst or historian in any sense --- he's just a bloody commentator.

 

[Dazzat]

What do you mean considered? You say that like its subjective.


There's no such thing as a New South Welsher.

No one is challenging Lewis' greatness in Origin --- in fact I added to his rep by saying he should get more credit for his games for Australia --- but it cuts both ways. He is way, way behind the lijes of Johns, Lockyer, Fittler, Daley, Smith & other greats on a week-to-week basis. Don't act as though it isn't the truth.

You have completely ignored his 10 years in the BRL. Does this not count to you? He did delivery week-to-week in that competition, and by the time the Brisbane Broncos came around, he was probably past his best (you get that after a decade of dominance at club level), and also found it difficult under the coaching of Bennett. He did however, still play some great games for the club.

But you just stay in your bubble and believe your half truths.

 

[Dazzat]

I see a lot of excuses & one line of complete bullshit (trying to use the BRL to talk Lewis up).


You know & I know that wasn't the NSWRL.

True, but it wasn't a cake walk either - as mentioned - at one stage BRL players dominated the Australian team.

But Lewis DID deliver week-by-week. Where he played was outside his control. He chose to stay in Brisbane to be with his family.

To continue to say that Lewis did not deliver at club level is an absolute lie.

 

[Amadaca]

Anyone want to step up here & say they could ever imagine having to use sub-NSWRL/NRL competitions to defend the greatness of Johns, Langer, Lockyer, Fittler, Stuart, Meninga etc?

I didn't think so. We are talking about his form in the top grade. Taboo, I know, but it wasn't up to being mentioned alongside the guys above.

I'll take Ray Price's expertise over Ray Warren's, thanks.

 

[isaiah]

http://news.com.au/sport/nsw-skipper-paul-gallens-history-of-shame/story-fnect155-1226658918447

PAUL Gallen must have selective memory.

Much, much worse.

Like Gallen's accusation that Myles headbutts.

We checked the NRL judiciary record and not a single offence is registered against Myles, yet in round 18 in 2007 Gallen copped a one-game ban for headbutting Shane Shackleton of the Sydney Roosters.

It's one of 17 judiciary charges Gallen has attracted since his debut in 2002, for suspensions totalling 19 weeks.

It doesn't take much research to find out a bit more about the man being hailed a hero in Sydney for standing up to Queensland's so-called Origin bullies.

Playing punching bag with Myles' head is not the first time Gallen has instigated fights on the football field.

He has striking charges from 2002 and 2009, plus a contrary conduct charge in 2004 when the judiciary found he "instigated and tried to go on with a fight with John Skandalis''.

Let's review some of Gal's worst moments in football.

Like the day he was accused of diving against the Dragons, got a penalty and winked at teammates.

Or Origin III 2007 when he hit Tonie Carroll high and decided to immediately start the biff.

He later told reporters the plan was to go the knuckle "if anyone touches any us'', must have also applied if he tried to decapitate someone too.

But the dirtiest day of all came in round 3, 2008 at Skilled Park when he deliberately pulled at the stitches of Anthony Laffranchi and was accused by Josh Graham of "squeezing his wheels''.

It was such a shameful day that one Sydney scribe suggested Gallen be jailed for assault.

It wasn't the only testicle twisting of Gallen's year, Maroons enforcer Mick Crocker alleging it happened to him twice in the 2008 Origin decider.

In 2009 Gallen was fined by the NRL for racially abusing Dragon Mickey Paea and stepped down from the club captaincy.

He ended the year reprimanded by his club for public urination, relieving himself near a drunken friend's head.

So while Gallen might be trying to spin the story his way and blame Myles for twisting his leg, we know the truth is Gallen is really just twisting your arm.

lets get the focus back on gal, what a great captain. knows how to lose.

 

[Amadaca]

True, but it wasn't a cake walk either - as mentioned - at one stage BRL players dominated the Australian team.

But Lewis DID deliver week-by-week. Where he played was outside his control. He chose to stay in Brisbane to be with his family.

To continue to say that Lewis did not deliver at club level is an absolute lie.

Didn't think I needed to specify week-to-week meant in the top-grade, but okay.

Didn't say the BRL was a cakewalk, but that isn't remotely the point. NSW Cup isn't a cakewalk, either. I don't need to point to anyones form there as part of their greatness.

 

[Dazzat]

lets get the focus back on gal, what a great captain. knows how to lose.

Yes ... let's get the attention back on Paul "I'm Trying to Be Wally Lewis" Gallen.

The man with a judiciary file longer than a 40/20 is upset about another player and a couple of incidents that happened last year, and a non-existent leg pull.

Kinda like Wayne Swan lecturing someone over getting the country into debt.

 

[Amadaca]

Yes ... let's get the attention back on Paul "I'm Trying to Be Wally Lewis" Gallen.

The man with a judiciary file longer than a 40/20 is upset about another player and a couple of incidents that happened last year, and a non-existent leg pull.

Kinda like Wayne Swan lecturing someone over getting the country into debt.

:lol:

Laughs aside, I really don't know where you're pulling this notion from.

 

[Knightmare]

seems ridiculous that the media is talking about the great punch ups from the history of SOO. guys standing toe to toe. but the FACTS are that gallen hit myles with a swinging arm as third man in, myles gets up and pushes him, gallen hits myles flush on the head with both fists, not even marking his head or knocking him down. thats not a fight, that is only one doing the hitting.
I am a bit ashamed of Meninga's Sunday Mail column, though. To say gallen was pre-meditated in going out to do damage to myles for previous grubby acts is a bit sensationalist. we dont need to sell seats for game 2. we could sell out 2 sydney olympic stadiums up here. all gallen has done, instead of retribution, is motivate a team that started slowly in game 1 to come out and compete from the first minute. when qld has 4 or 5 of the best players in the game, you dont want them motivated as well. gallen has sunk his teams already slim chances of stopping the juggernaut.

If Qld are using Gallen's hit as motivation for Game 2 then they are clutching at straws. I thought the fact that NSW "stole" their Origin game from them and winning on enemy territory was meant to be the big motivator for the Maroons? Instead they were rusty, uninspiring and only waded back into the contest for a 10 minute period because NSW allowed them to. If Gallen is the prime motivator, let Qld's biggest enforcer step up. But wait, isn't their biggest enforcer Nate Myles?

Qld will play better in Game 2 no doubt, but NSW are well aware they need to step up a level too. Even last series Qld were below the best we'd come to expect of them. They got the job done last series, this time around they are going to need to play the best they have played in 3 series and at this point, I don't think Gallen being public enemy #1 and playing at home will even be enough to give Qld the edge...

 

[Dazzat]

:lol:

Laughs aside, I really don't know where you're pulling this notion from.

It's obvious that Mr Gallen has seen replays of Wally Lewis confronting Mark Geyer all those years ago - when Geyer was sent out with specific instructions from the NSW coach to use any tactic available to unsettle the Queensland team.

Just like Lewis, Gallen is suggesting that his swinging arm/five punches was his way of standing up to the (apparent) dirty play of Queensland.

They way he is talking (much to the embarrassment of the NSW Footy Show hosts) he is putting himself in that same position of Wally - a guardian of truth and right, standing against the injustices of the Queensland team.

Only problem, Gallen needs to look in the mirror first.

 

[Glen]

seems ridiculous that the media is talking about the great punch ups from the history of SOO. guys standing toe to toe. but the FACTS are that gallen hit myles with a swinging arm as third man in, myles gets up and pushes him, gallen hits myles flush on the head with both fists, not even marking his head or knocking him down. thats not a fight, that is only one doing the hitting.

And why would anyone think Myles wasn't up for a fight after he lurched forward towards Gallen and pushed him? If Myles wasn't such a bitch and managed to get one swing in people might view it differently, but at the end of the day he was asking for it.

I wonder if Queensland can keep up this whinging victim mentality for the full three weeks until game two? That would be quite impressive

 

[Amadaca]

It's obvious that Mr Gallen has seen replays of Wally Lewis confronting Mark Geyer all those years ago - when Geyer was sent out with specific instructions from the NSW coach to use any tactic available to unsettle the Queensland team.

Just like Lewis, Gallen is suggesting that his swinging arm/five punches was his way of standing up to the (apparent) dirty play of Queensland.

They way he is talking (much to the embarrassment of the NSW Footy Show hosts) he is putting himself in that same position of Wally - a guardian of truth and right, standing against the injustices of the Queensland team.

Only problem, Gallen needs to look in the mirror first.

I think you're looking very, very deep into a puddle.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

I wonder if Queensland can keep up this whinging victim mentality for the full three weeks until game two? That would be quite impressive

Not so impressive when you consider NSW has managed to keep one up for 7 years now...

 

[Someone]

Not so impressive when you consider NSW has managed to keep one up for 7 years now...

A boner?

the f**k.

 

[woodyk2]

Hit one qlder and the whole state sooks.

 

[Someone]

Hit one qlder and the whole state sooks.

NSW sooked when tate whacked gallen on the cheek last year, its just natural to sook.

Boo hoo. Origin is for thugs, not f**king princesses.