How much of this are we prepared to take?

[The Silverdale Phantom]

The board had concerns about Madge and invited Tim back into the fold.

He was never meant to be the coach, but to assist the club get back on its feet as the Ivan signings tailed off.

Then we somehow botched Ciraldo.

Despite 18 applications for coach, the board were so impressed with Tim, they abandoned protocol and went all-in.

And Tim has struggled ever since.

Basically Tim brought in and trusted the wrong people, coaches, staff and players.

People told Tim they could manage players, improve things etc and he believed them.

We can and should challenge Tim but he’s not alone on the staff front. His continuing error is to keep faith in them.

And right now he seems to have really screwed it up with Benji for the next three years.

 

[Tigerm]

The board had concerns about Madge and invited Tim back into the fold.

He was never meant to be the coach, but to assist the club get back on its feet as the Ivan signings tailed off.

Then we somehow botched Ciraldo.

Despite 18 applications for coach, the board were so impressed with Tim, they abandoned protocol and went all-in.

And Tim has struggled ever since.

Basically Tim brought in and trusted the wrong people, coaches, staff and players.

People told Tim they could manage players, improve things etc and he believed them.

Tim’s problem was, he hasn’t been involved in the NRL for over a decade and thought he could walk in as if nothing had changed.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Tim’s problem was, he hasn’t been involved in the NRL for over a decade and thought he could walk in as if nothing had changed.

He looked and sounded very confident as he started getting more publicity and spin last year.

The excuse for bumping off Madge “ we looked at whether or not he would be here in a few years and we couldn’t guarantee that”

And then replaces Madge with himself and a complete novice in Benji.

The club bet big on Tim.

 

[Tigerm]

He looked and sounded very confident as he started getting more publicity and spin last year.

The excuse for bumping off Madge “ we looked at whether or not he would be here in a few years and we couldn’t guarantee that”

And then replaces Madge with himself and a complete novice in Benji.

The club bet big on Tim.

Agree and we have no idea how Benji is going to go, so the 5 year plan could be a total failure, which could put us to 15 years min of failure
Something to look forward to huh.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Agree and we have no idea how Benji is going to go, so the 5 year plan could be a total failure, which could put us to 15 years min of failure
Something to look forward to huh.

It was a appalling decision entirely devoid of any kind of logic or commonsense.

You could understand a signing of this nature in circumstances where Benji was a top coach with a proven record.

You could understand it where another club was seeking Benjis services.

But there was no demand whatsoever.

In the meantime more experienced coaches have hit the market with more to follow.

But at least Benji realises Brooks is on an extended play making holiday.

Tbh, Benji is probably sick of Brooksys $1.1m bullshit and for making Benji look like a bigger tool than he already is.

It seems to me that Tim’s no frills spine is probably the cheapest in the comp. We might have been better off to look at that much more closely at the start of last year.

 

[soc123_au]

You guys should have tried to sign the bloke at the Warriors. If only you could have gotten him in your system.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

You guys should have tried to sign the bloke at the Warriors. If only you could have gotten him in your system.

He was in our system as was your Mr Karma.

Bloody Ivans up to his tricks again.

A bit of theatre. Lacks class Socky.

 

[Tigerm]

It was a appalling decision entirely devoid of any kind of logic or commonsense.

You could understand a signing of this nature in circumstances where Benji was a top coach with a proven record.

You could understand it where another club was seeking Benjis services.

But there was no demand whatsoever.

In the meantime more experienced coaches have hit the market with more to follow.

But at least Benji realises Brooks is on an extended play making holiday.

Tbh, Benji is probably sick of Brooksys $1.1m bullshit and for making Benji look like a bigger tool than he already is.

It seems to me that Tim’s no frills spine is probably the cheapest in the comp. We might have been better off to look at that much more closely at the start of last year.

The club probably thought that a few ex players are going ok as coaches, so why not Benji?
He hasn’t been tested yet, so who knows, it’s all we got atm.

 

[Exsilium]

The romantic idea of bringing in the likes of Sheens, Farah and Benji over just about any other suitable candidate was a decision void of due diligence.

It shows how disconnected the administration is from the actuality of the situation. It's not like the team was coming off the back of steady seasons and a risk could be taken. This is a club that has taken a mortgage on the lower eight positions. They've gambled and lost.

The sad part of this is that anyone on the outside can see it, despite General Lee's assertion that even a director within the greater business has no foundation to form an opinion on the club or its representatives. If that is not an alarm bell, I don't know how else any takeover, criticism or change gain momentum.

The arrogance from this lot is shocking.

The NRL attempted to steady the ship with Marina Go but we know how that panned out.

If the team is 0-10 or worse, at what point would the NRL heads look at the club closely and raise serious concerns or possibly force their hand? After all, the NRL is a sports entertainment business and dysfunctional administrations with poor on field performances and an alienated fan base does not equate to viewership, membership or sustained marketability.

I'd love to see fans not turn up to games or any other sort of very public statement but look at who you're dealing with? These muppets are in their own circle jerk and don't give two shits.

 

[Exsilium]

You guys should have tried to sign the bloke at the Warriors. If only you could have gotten him in your system.

They could sign the best current coach and players, utilize the 'Centre of Excellence' to its full potential and they'd likely be no different.

Football clubs are not just teams on a field. They are a combination of several business units which, when functional, allow the football team and its representatives to do their part.

It would take a decade to reverse the fortunes of the Wests Tigers. That in itself is the most upsetting part for any club fan but they'd likely be on board if they genuinely believed in the direction and governance.

 

[Tigerm]

The romantic idea of bringing in the likes of Sheens, Farah and Benji over just about any other suitable candidate was a decision void of due diligence.

It shows how disconnected the administration is from the actuality of the situation. It's not like the team was coming off the back of steady seasons and a risk could be taken. This is a club that has taken a mortgage on the lower eight positions. They've gambled and lost.

The sad part of this is that anyone on the outside can see it, despite General Lee's assertion that even a director within the greater business has no foundation to form an opinion on the club or its representatives. If that is not an alarm bell, I don't know how else any takeover, criticism or change gain momentum.

The arrogance from this lot is shocking.

The NRL attempted to steady the ship with Marina Go but we know how that panned out.

If the team is 0-10 or worse, at what point would the NRL heads look at the club closely and raise serious concerns or possibly force their hand? After all, the NRL is a sports entertainment business and dysfunctional administrations with poor on field performances and an alienated fan base does not equate to viewership, membership or sustained marketability.

I'd love to see fans not turn up to games or any other sort of very public statement but look at who you're dealing with? These muppets are in their own circle jerk and don't give two shits.

Seriously, I agree we are a rabble atm, but to suggest an NRL intervention is ludicrous, are you suggesting no other team in the history has been in a similar position to us?
Didn’t Easts have a season where they never won a game?
Bar our deplorable results, the club still has a large following and is one of the few who are now profitable, so I don’t see the NRL getting involved at all.
That said, I agree we are shit and have been for some time.

 

[Reflector]

I still remember my Dad after the '89 GF, devastated from what had taken place. The thing that I still remember him saying at the time, and I was to young to comprehend, was him saying that was our last chance. He was saying that with the Bronco's coming in and the League growing, our 80's team aging etc that the little suburban battlers wouldn't be able to compete with the big end of town.

How prophetic he was.

Your dad was half-correct.

The 80's was a sign it was time for the traditional suburban battlers to change their operations, shape up or die (Newtown and Wests getting the axe in '83 proved the league was serious about this beyond mere threats, even if Wests won their way back in)

However, the decades since have shown that, provided they are managed the right way and forward-thinking with their revenue streams, there is room for the old suburban clubs like Souths and Easts - and in fact they can be amongst the biggest and best sides in the entire comp. Even a club like Cronulla, marked down for extinction circa 2009/10, have secured their future long-term with the land developments at Wooloware, and boast one of the healthiest junior league districts in Australia. 2016 isn't going to be a one-off, put it that way.

The Tigers (like the Dragons) are guilty of mismanagement first and foremost. This is something that can equally effect "modern" expansion sides like the Broncos and the Raiders, as we've seen over the past 5 years in both cases.

 

[Tigerm]

He was in our system as was your Mr Karma.

Bloody Ivans up to his tricks again.

A bit of theatre. Lacks class Socky.

I think you’ve been had

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I think you’ve been had

@soc123_au is brutal.

He has no fear.

 

[soc123_au]

@soc123_au is brutal.

He has no fear.

I genuinely hope it gets fixed, you poor bastards have suffered enough. The Tigers remind me a bit of the Panthers pre admin Gus. Happy enough turning a profit as a group with pretty much zero f**ks given about the fortunes of the Footy side that provides it a reason to exist. In our case they ended up screwing the business side as well eventually which was why Gus was called in to start with.

In your case I think they need to separate the 2 arms and leave the business side ticking along as is and blow the Footy side up and start again from scratch, with a mind that without the Footy side the business side could disappear. IMO investing so much into the facility at Concord was idiotic, it should have been in Campbelltown. Pick an area and stick to it ffs. Invest in where the nursery is.

 

[Tigerm]

I genuinely hope it gets fixed, you poor bastards have suffered enough. The Tigers remind me a bit of the Panthers pre admin Gus. Happy enough turning a profit as a group with pretty much zero f**ks given about the fortunes of the Footy side that provides it a reason to exist. In our case they ended up screwing the business side as well eventually which was why Gus was called in to start with.

In your case I think they need to separate the 2 arms and leave the business side ticking along as is and blow the Footy side up and start again from scratch, with a mind that without the Footy side the business side could disappear. IMO investing so much into the facility at Concord was idiotic, it should have been in Campbelltown. Pick an area and stick to it ffs. Invest in where the nursery is.

We may not have had a choice of location, as it’s not solely for this clubs use, besides they did have one going in at Campbelltown, not sure if that will still happen with the new government?

For me, there does appear to be an interference from the board in regards to certain long term player selections?

But interesting to know how the panther system rolled out, cheers.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I genuinely hope it gets fixed, you poor bastards have suffered enough. The Tigers remind me a bit of the Panthers pre admin Gus. Happy enough turning a profit as a group with pretty much zero f**ks given about the fortunes of the Footy side that provides it a reason to exist. In our case they ended up screwing the business side as well eventually which was why Gus was called in to start with.

In your case I think they need to separate the 2 arms and leave the business side ticking along as is and blow the Footy side up and start again from scratch, with a mind that without the Footy side the business side could disappear. IMO investing so much into the facility at Concord was idiotic, it should have been in Campbelltown. Pick an area and stick to it ffs. Invest in where the nursery is.

Some good ideas, but that’s not happening without structural change at the top.

The immediate task to put enough pressure on these ugly feudal lords and get them to call it a day.

The COE cost too much.

 

[Tigerm]

Some good ideas, but that’s not happening without structural change at the top.

The immediate task to put enough pressure on these ugly feudal lords and get them to call it a day.

The COE cost too much.

“The COE cost too much.”

Whats that got to with anything, it could probably save our arse from any relocation issues should they arise?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

“The COE cost too much.”

Whats that got to with anything, it could probably save our arse from any relocation issues should they arise?

$78m of white elephant so far as it’s core function of helping to form a competitive side is concerned.

If we get moved, we can lease it out to the eels or the ping pong, the western warblers.

I think Socky is right and we should have done more for the south west.

Instead of a barber, it should have a passing machine.

 

[westerntiger]

So apparently our ANZAC commemorative jersey has US soldiers printed on it. That’ll do me…