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How the NRL should look like.

Teddyboy

First Grade
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Auckland Blacks
Wellington Warriors
Brisbane Broncos
South Queensland Crushers
Perth Eagles
Fremantle Dockers
Adelaide City
Port Adelaide Panthers
Newcastle Knights
Central Coast Sea Eagles
Illawarra Steelers
North Sydney Sharks
South Sydney Roosters
West Sydney Bulldogs
Canberra Raiders
Geelong Cats
Collingwood Magpies
St Kilda Dragons
Melbourne United
Essendon Tigers

State of Origin
Queensland Maroons
New South Wales Blues
Victoria Blacks
South Australia Greens
West Australia Reds

Australia Kangaroos

Thats what it look in a alternative dimension/world or if I had a time machine and could go back and change things.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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The game would be a lot bigger if it had been adopted by Melbourne, Perth and adelaide instead of Sydney and Brisbane!
 

flippikat

First Grade
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The game would be a lot bigger if it had been adopted by Melbourne, Perth and adelaide instead of Sydney and Brisbane!

You could argue that having TWO big population centres (Adelaide & Perth) in AFL heartland made the difference in their code since the 1980s - it's forced the Melbourne-based establishment to grow an expansionary, interstate outlook.
 
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Since the 1980's, NSWRL has moved to Canberra, Illawarra, Newcastle, whilst adding Brisbane and Gold Coast.
Then they added Perth, Townsville, Auckland and a 2nd Brisbane team. And an Adelaide side.
Now, I'm sorry Perth and Adelaide were lost but the NSWRL was quite proactive in expanding their horizons.
There's a lot of redacting going on in this site about what 'Sydney' have and haven't done.
And frankly, it's BS.
If Perth got a side tomorrow, most of the 'NRL doesn't have a national footprint' palaver would disappear over night.
And sure, I want a Perth and Adelaide side too. But to say the old NSWRL didn't expand, and to blame Sydney on all the ills of the game is plain and simple wrong. A lot of people who I know and associate with, and watch RL, all agree Perth is a good fit for a new team.
 

Perth Red

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It's not just adding perth, afl,has
2 teams in Perth
2 teams in Adelaide
2 teams in Sydney with regular presence in Canberra
2 teams in Queensland

NRL would need
2 teams in Perth
Team in Adelaide
2 teams in nz
2 teams in Brisbane

To overtake their "national" footprint

Rl in its usual way decided to expand to heartland regional small cities rather than take the risk of growing big city teams in heartland and non heartland cities.

How the nrl still has only one team in Brisbane is a ridiculous example. Afl would never have ,et that happen.
 

flippikat

First Grade
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It's not just adding perth, afl,has
2 teams in Perth
2 teams in Adelaide
2 teams in Sydney with regular presence in Canberra
2 teams in Queensland

NRL would need
2 teams in Perth
Team in Adelaide
2 teams in nz
2 teams in Brisbane

To overtake their "national" footprint

Rl in its usual way decided to expand to heartland regional small cities rather than take the risk of growing big city teams in heartland and non heartland cities.

How the nrl still has only one team in Brisbane is a ridiculous example. Afl would never have ,et that happen.

It's not just the fact that AFL have targeted big cities, the crucial part is they've made sure that the big cities all have derbies of their own.

We're a long way behind if we can't even create a genuine derby within rugby league's second city.
 

taipan

Referee
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22,500
Auckland Blacks
Wellington Warriors
Brisbane Broncos
South Queensland Crushers
Perth Eagles
Fremantle Dockers
Adelaide City
Port Adelaide Panthers
Newcastle Knights
Central Coast Sea Eagles
Illawarra Steelers
North Sydney Sharks
South Sydney Roosters
West Sydney Bulldogs
Canberra Raiders
Geelong Cats
Collingwood Magpies
St Kilda Dragons
Melbourne United
Essendon Tigers

State of Origin
Queensland Maroons
New South Wales Blues
Victoria Blacks
South Australia Greens
West Australia Reds

Australia Kangaroos

Thats what it look in a alternative dimension/world or if I had a time machine and could go back and change things.


More soap needed, less fish and chips, and a knighthood to be bestowed on teddy(hic)boy.
This stuff should be inscribed in a cave,and held for 40,000 years to enlighten the future naive generations.
 

adamkungl

Immortal
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It's not just adding perth, afl,has
2 teams in Perth
2 teams in Adelaide
2 teams in Sydney with regular presence in Canberra
2 teams in Queensland

NRL would need
2 teams in Perth
Team in Adelaide
2 teams in nz
2 teams in Brisbane

To overtake their "national" footprint

Rl in its usual way decided to expand to heartland regional small cities rather than take the risk of growing big city teams in heartland and non heartland cities.

How the nrl still has only one team in Brisbane is a ridiculous example. Afl would never have ,et that happen.

their 2nd Sydney team and both their QLD teams are money sinks that no one watches.

Long term we should have
1 team in Perth, 1 in Adelaide
2 more in NZ
and 2 more in Brisbane/SE QLD
 

Marlins

Juniors
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1,426
How the Nrl should look in 2022
20 Teams - 22 Rounds - 3 stand alone STate of Origins
NQLD Cowboys
Brisbane Broncos
Redcliffe Dolphins
Ipswich Jets
Gold Coast Titans
Newcastle Knights
Manly - Central Coast Sea Eagles 60/40
Penrith Panthers
Parramatta Eels
Wests Tigers - Campbelltown Based
Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs
South Sydney Rabbitohs - SFS
Cronulla Sharks
St.George Illawarra Dragons
Canberra Raiders
Melbourne Storm
Adelaide Roosters
West Coast Pirates
Christchurch Bulls
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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Swans started off with sub 10k crowds now look at them. They are in it for the long haul, not short term like NRL.
 

taipan

Referee
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Swans started off with sub 10k crowds now look at them. They are in it for the long haul, not short term like NRL.

Check the history post 1995,and one gets an idea why the Swans are where they are.They still can't crack Sydney FTA ratings, with all the marketing, all the finals involvement, all the money spent,all the Edelsteins.
They nearly went down the curler 2- 3 times.
Get a leg up sure helps.
 

Teddyboy

First Grade
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6,573
How the Nrl should look in 2022
20 Teams - 22 Rounds - 3 stand alone STate of Origins
NQLD Cowboys
Brisbane Broncos
Redcliffe Dolphins
Ipswich Jets
Gold Coast Titans
Newcastle Knights
Manly - Central Coast Sea Eagles 60/40
Penrith Panthers
Parramatta Eels
Wests Tigers - Campbelltown Based
Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs
South Sydney Rabbitohs - SFS
Cronulla Sharks
St.George Illawarra Dragons
Canberra Raiders
Melbourne Storm
Adelaide Roosters
West Coast Pirates
Christchurch Bulls
Eels and Panthers should merge.
 

SpaceMonkey

Immortal
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How the Nrl should look in 2022
20 Teams - 22 Rounds - 3 stand alone STate of Origins
NQLD Cowboys
Brisbane Broncos
Redcliffe Dolphins
Ipswich Jets
Gold Coast Titans
Newcastle Knights
Manly - Central Coast Sea Eagles 60/40
Penrith Panthers
Parramatta Eels
Wests Tigers - Campbelltown Based
Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs
South Sydney Rabbitohs - SFS
Cronulla Sharks
St.George Illawarra Dragons
Canberra Raiders
Melbourne Storm
Adelaide Roosters
West Coast Pirates
Christchurch Bulls

Axe the Warriors and bring in Christchurch? Yeah that'll work... you must have missed the bit where 1/3 of NZs population and probably half of its RL player base is in Auckland. Long term NZneeds another team, but not at Auckland's expense.
 

Marlins

Juniors
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Axe the Warriors and bring in Christchurch? Yeah that'll work... you must have missed the bit where 1/3 of NZs population and probably half of its RL player base is in Auckland. Long term NZneeds another team, but not at Auckland's expense.
My bad :hugging: Auckland & Christchurch Lad
 

Stormwarrior82

Juniors
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The Nrl is worried about 2 things with respect to expansion.

1. Player numbers for the expansion teams
2. Cost

Player Numbers haven't been exactly great but I feel the position we are in, is a lot better than the Afl. They can't do anything for the next 10plus years.

We can, With at least 3 great options (bris2, Perth and Nz2) plus a possible side in adalaide in year 10. I feel there is enough nrl/union players in nz for a extra side, enough players in qcup for a extra side and enough sl/nrl/union players in Perth for a side. Our national footprint would supersede anything the afl could do.

Once the knights and goldy get sorted and clubs are in the next tv deal the nrl have no reason not too expand.
 

Perth Red

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Just need some fricking strategy. Decide you want to expand, decide where you want to expand, put in a plan to make it happen and by when. Look at what the weak points are of the expansion locations and invest in overcoming those weaknesses prior to club starting up. Sick of hearing that we can't expand now, of course we can't as we have done sweet fa to be ready to expand now. If we don't start we will never be ready.

Re the two key issues

1. If it's perth and Brisbane 2 thenlink perth to png and invest in that development pathway as well as properly funding the WA j r system, invest in development of juniors actually in Victoria and stop the qland drain to Melbourne so the Brisbane2 team has qland players available. Create better connections to Fiji and PI development programs to increase player pool, reinvest the nz sky sports funding into nz development.

2. Recent report claimed afl's ninth game was worth $57mill a year, even if nrl is only worth 2/3rds of that it stil pays for itself with some left over.
 
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