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Hypotheticals '09

macavity

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Karmawave said:
Yep, that was before losing 1.2M last year.

That was the time of Joey Johns and 20,000+ crowds ensuring healty profits.

Times have changed.

we have only ever made a "healthy profit" in our premiership years and 2006.....
 

Karmawave

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Well the healthy profits in regard to at least making money on home games :lol:

Relative to this, and compared to our efforts last year and the other night, it was much healthier in the past :lol:

The Knights are actually in deep sh*t. If their massive sponsorship dollars weren't in play - we'd really be struggling.

Its not hard to notice, the Knights budget for anything non football related is practically $0 - from the pre/halftime entertainment, marketing and promotion of the Knights product, and is best summed up by our esteemed website. If someone had the foresight to give a few of the Knights lads a video camera after training and get them in front of a computer keyboard, the website could have Knights TV and a few blogs from players that wouldn't cost a cent. Simple, cost effective solutions to improve things don't seem to be even possible with this current management/board.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm embarrased to be a Knights fan when it comes to things like that. We are the laughing stock of the competition.
 

roopy

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Karmawave said:
Well the healthy profits in regard to at least making money on home games :lol:

Relative to this, and compared to our efforts last year and the other night, it was much healthier in the past :lol:

The Knights are actually in deep sh*t. If their massive sponsorship dollars weren't in play - we'd really be struggling.

Its not hard to notice, the Knights budget for anything non football related is practically $0 - from the pre/halftime entertainment, marketing and promotion of the Knights product, and is best summed up by our esteemed website. If someone had the foresight to give a few of the Knights lads a video camera after training and get them in front of a computer keyboard, the website could have Knights TV and a few blogs from players that wouldn't cost a cent. Simple, cost effective solutions to improve things don't seem to be even possible with this current management/board.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm embarrased to be a Knights fan when it comes to things like that. We are the laughing stock of the competition.
As far as i know the broncos are the only side who have have less financial propping up than the Knights over their history.
Till recent times we were paying our way with sponsership and football income alone - while all but the Broncos have been subsidized by leagues clubs, news limited etc - not sure how the new clubs stack up.
Added to that, we have had one of the most expensive grounds in the league, with some Sydney sides being payed to go to grounds rather than paying them.
 

Karmawave

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roopy said:
Added to that, we have had one of the most expensive grounds in the league, with some Sydney sides being payed to go to grounds rather than paying them.

Isn't their conflict of interest there given that Leigh Maughan is running for the board as well as being high up on the ISC trust who leases the stadium to the Knights?

I'd be exploring the opportunities of a joint funding with the Newcastle Jets - who are also losing money regardless of on field success.

I am unsure if the future of this club is EAS.

Given the opportunity down the line, I wouldn't be suprised at all if the Knights and Jets join forces to campaign the Governments for a state of the art stadium at a venue completely unattached to EAS.

Again that would take some sort of proactive and sensible approach that I am unsure we will get with the board as it currently stands.
 

macavity

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Karmawave said:
Given the opportunity down the line, I wouldn't be suprised at all if the Knights and Jets join forces to campaign the Governments for a state of the art stadium at a venue completely unattached to EAS.

we can't get money to finish the other half of EAS.

buckleys of getting anything for a completely new stadium anywhere in Newcastle. absolute 0% chance.

if we got the funds to finish EAS and could attract other big events on a regular basis (not to mention larger crowds), it would lessen the burden on the knights, and to a lesser extent the jets.
 

roopy

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Karmawave said:
Isn't their conflict of interest there given that Leigh Maughan is running for the board as well as being high up on the ISC trust who leases the stadium to the Knights?

I'd be exploring the opportunities of a joint funding with the Newcastle Jets - who are also losing money regardless of on field success.

I am unsure if the future of this club is EAS.

Given the opportunity down the line, I wouldn't be suprised at all if the Knights and Jets join forces to campaign the Governments for a state of the art stadium at a venue completely unattached to EAS.

Again that would take some sort of proactive and sensible approach that I am unsure we will get with the board as it currently stands.
The time for that was before spending 60 million on the joint.

I've always said the same money would have got us a brilliant state of the art stadium at number one sportsground, which would have been better for the city in any number of ways - but it won't happen now.
 

Karmawave

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I agree Roopy and macavity.

Its probably too late, though the funding for EAS as it stands currently was given before the success of the Newcastle Jets. The trump card now for the region is two world class teams - the Knights and Jets - together.

Don't underestimate the importance of the Jets competing in the Asian Champions League next year - and the impact that will have on the Governments interest in funding the stadium at EAS.

The Australian Government love their relationship with Asia, and any Australian team competing on the world stage like the Jets will be doing, will not be lost on the Government.

Also lets not forget its taken Labor many years to get back into government, and we were never a chance of getting funding from the Libs in such a staunch Labor stronghold like Newcastle is...

It is more likely to get the funding to finish EAS than a completely new stadium, but I wouldn't rule it out somewhere down the line.
The No.1 Sportsground might seem romantic, but the traffic and parking would be hell around the area - and I can't see that working. The traffic surrounding the ground has one lane in both directions.

If a new stadium was to be built in Newcastle, Glendale sports grounds seems the logical area.
 

Yosh

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I would like to dream up:

1. Kids
2. Uate
3. Inglis
4. Falou
5. Vuna
6. Mullen
7. Prince
8. Cross
9. Issac Luke
10. Asotasi
11. Houston
12. Patto
13. Tupou

14. Hilder
15. Wicks
16. Fao'so
17. Simmo


There we go, surely a Premiership winning side if you ask me. We would blow our salary cap by double but yeah I can dream that we would never get caught ^^
 

perverse

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rofl.. oh dear yosh..

i mean, there's speculation.. and hypothetical.. and then there's just plain fantasy. yours is well and truly the latter, rofl.
 

otori

Juniors
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My mildly realistic team for 09

1. Gidley
2. Uate
3. Collis
4. Naiqama
5. Vuna
6. Mullen
7. Dureau
8. Cross
9. Morris
10. Natusch
11. Taia
12. Paterson
13. Houston
14. Fa'aso
15. Simpson
16. Wicks
17. Hilder
 

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