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IceHouse, why aren't they respected?

Eelectrica

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They were awesome. Today my Ipod picked one of their songs (I've got one Icehouse CD on it) and I thought Damn, I've got to get more on there.
 

Ron Jeremy

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OVP said:
Btw, if anyone knows anything at all about them, the Flowers Album, called Icehouse is and forever is still their best ... Icehouse the song is so f**king cool, plus fatman, walls, etc etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3i8x6XhO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOJRVKHDJo

Why wont anyone post the Fatman song on youtube ? This is one of their all time best. You'll have to look for it on your own personal mp3 leecher :)

How good is the walls film clip, simple but f**king awesome.
 

Ron Jeremy

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http://www.icehouse-iva.com/frameset.html

Iva Davies is an Associate in Music Australia (Distinction) and a formally trained classical musician (oboe. Piano and composition).

Iva’s first serious musical training was during high school. His outstanding potential as an oboist won him the first of a number of consecutive scholarships to the NSW State Conservatorium of Music where he continued tertiary studies in the Performer’s Diploma Course.

His parallel interest in popular music and ability as a guitarist singer/composer led, in 1977, to the formation of the Australian musical group Flowers, later known as Icehouse.

As leader and founder of Icehouse he achieved substantial success both locally and internationally over a period of twenty years. Icehouse produced, over that period, roughly thirty local hit songs including Hey Little Girl, Crazy, Electric Blue, Touch the Fire and Great Southern Land, a number of European and American Top 20 hits (including international Number 1s). Album sales are presently approaching two million in Australasia alone.

Icehouse has also accumulated awards including nine multi-platinum recordings and multiple awards from ARIA (Australian Record Industry Association), APRA (Australian Performing Rights Association), ASCAP (USA Writers and Performers Association), Ampex Gold Record Awards, “Mo”, Variety Club and many others.

Iva has performed extensively throughout the USA, UK, Europe and Japan and in the course of his work with Icehouse, has been deeply involved in the application of new technologies in music.

As a composer/songwriter, Iva Davies has written over one hundred published songs. In the film score area, he composed the soundtrack music for Russell Mulcahy’s thriller Razorback, which won an AFI nomination and an APRA Award in 1986.

In 1985 the ballet score Boxes was commissioned by Sydney Dance Company and the resulting work conceived by Iva Davies, Robert Kretschmer and Graeme Murphy opened on 5th November 1985, and achieved local and international recognition. In 1995 Iva was once again invited by Graeme Murphy to create an original score in collaboration with Max Lambert for a new dance work titled BERLIN. The complete BERLIN score includes a number of songs by other recognised composers, arranged by Iva Davies and Max Lambert. BERLIN enjoyed considerable success in Australia during 1995, and returned to the Sydney Opera House by public demand in 1997.

For Sydney’s Millenium Eve Celebration, Iva was invited to Great Southern Land, his seminal song about the nature of Australia, into a 40 minute composition, drawing together composers and musicians from all over the world to produce a complex collaborative work. In the minutes before midnight when the clock turned from 1999 to 2000, the work, Great Southern Land, was performed on the northern forecourt of the Sydney Opera House. It was broadcast internationally to 2.5 billion television viewers and is recognised as an important part of Australia’s contribution to the vast international Millenium Eve celebration.

The new millenium heralds the emergence of Iva Davies as a major solo talent who, as his work matures and his musical palette expands, is looking beyond the neat landscape of sharp pop and finding new worlds of greater complexity, subtlety and innovation.

I'm sure Jimmy Barnes, Peter Garrett possesed the same musical attributes, after all they are Australian icons and Icehouse not.
 

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http://www.icehouse-iva.com/frameset.html

CHRONOLOGY

1977
Late 1997, Iva Davies, ex-oboe and composition student at the New South Wales Conservatorium of Music joins with rock bass player, Keith Welsh, to form a band called Flowers.

1978
Early 1978, the band gains popularity on the Sydney pub and club circuit playing note-perfect versions of Marc Bolan, Lou Reed, T-Rex, David Bowie, Iggy Pop, The Kinks and Brian Eno songs. Record companies recognise the band's popularity and offer contracts even though the band has no original material.

1979
Iva Davies re-established an old friendship with Cameron Allan who is director of Sydney based independent label, Regular Records.

1980
Band signs with Regular Records in January. First single Can't Help Myself is released in May and goes Top 10 in Australia. First album by Flowers titled Icehouse is released in October. The album charted at Number 4 nationally and remained in the charts for a staggering 45 weeks! This album eventually achieve quadruple platinum status (in excess of 300,000 albums sold). Icehouse becomes the biggest selling Australian album in New Zealand, also achieving quadruple platinum status.

1981
The band signs a deal with Chrysalis Records. Iva Davies travels to America to remix the new album for world markets. The band changes its name to Icehouse. A short UK tour begins in London, then a North American national tour. During this time in Australia, Icehouse release the single Love in Motion which peaks at number 10 in the charts. After North America the band travel back to London where a unique touring deal is struck whereby Icehouse supports Simple Minds in the UK and Simple Minds support Icehouse in Australia at a later date.


1982
Iva Davies starts work on the Primitive Man album. Hey Little Girl goes Top 20 in the UK, both single and album go Top 5 in Germany with hits in Holland, Belgium, France and Switzerland. David Bowie invites Icehouse to appear with him in the UK and Holland. Both tours are very successful. Bowie and Peter Gabriel invite the band to appear on their US tours. Due to a previous commitment with their fellow Australian video director Russell Mulcahy to compose and record the soundtrack to Russell's firth feature film Razorback, the band are unable to accept either invitation. In August/September, Iva is back in Australia and does a crash course in the use of the Fairlight Computer. By December, he completes the soundtrack to the film and subsequently wins an APRA Award and is nominated for an AFI Award.

1984
Iva commences writing the new Icehouse album, Sidewalk. During recording, each vocal on the album is used first take to get a more live feel. Andy Hilton engineers the records and David Jerden mixes each song once only.

1985
Iva and Bob Kretschmer work on the ballet BOXES with the Sydney Dance Company. In addition to scoring the ballet they also co-write the script with Graeme Murphy. BOXES with the Sydney Dance Company. In addition to scoring the the ballet they also co-write the script with Graeme Murphy. BOXES opens at the Sydney Opera House in December. Iva performs in an acting/singing/dancing role to sold-out crows for three weeks straight.

1986
the new album Measure for Measure is released and reaches No. 8 on the album charts. Extensive touring around Australia and the US keeps the band occupied. The single No Promises is a success in America. The remainder of 1986 is spent in the studio working on tracks for the next album.

1987
The first single from the album Man of Colours is titled Crazy and reaches No. 4 on the national charts while the album enters in at No. 1. The album remains in the charts for 56 weeks. In the US Crazy comes in as the 3rd Most Added Track at radio. Icehouse tour the U as special guests to The Cars in September and October.

1988
Crazy peaks at Number 14 on the US Billboard chart. Icehouse tour New Zealand. The band perform Electric Blue in front of Prince Charles and Princess Diana at the Royal Bicentennial Concert, Sydney. This is recorded and satellited to the US and aired live on the American Music Awards.

Electric Blue debuts at No. 88 on the Billboard charts. Icehouse tour Australia. Man of Colours is voted Australian Album of the Year at the 1988 ARIA Awards. Icehouse commence US headline tour in April. Electric Blue peaks at No. 7 on Billboard whilst the album peaks at No. 48. Man of Colours reaches No. 1 in New Zealand, No. 38 in UK, Top 10 in Germany & Holland and stays at No. 1 in Australia for 11 weeks. The album sells in excess of 600,000 units going platinum an unbelievable 7 times. This set an Australia record for the Biggest Selling Australian Group Album of all time on the domestic market. It is still the largest selling album by an Australian band ever released in Australia.


Icehouse wins Rock Group of the Year at the 13th Annual Mo Awards. They commence second headline tour in the US and play their final show for 1988 to 25,000 at Brisbane's World Exp. The band take a well deserved break and Iva Davies starts writing for a new studio album to be released in 1989.

1989
Icehouse commence national Australian tour late in February. The single Touch The Fire is released on the 25th September. It stays in the Australian charts for 12 weeks reaching No. 13 nationally. A compilation titled Great Southern Land is released on the 23rd October and goes multi-platinum in Australia. Electric Blue wins the APRA Award for Most Performed Australian Work. During the year Code Blue was written and recording was commenced.

1990
Flowers AKA Icehouse tour at the beginning of the year and continue until April. Fourth single from Code Blue, Where the Rivers Meets the Sea, is released. It feature a retrospective of Flowers material as well as some cover versions which had been the band's forte in their early years. Davies signs with Australian independent The Massive Record Company. First release for the new label is Masterfile, an Icehouse retrospective which is released before Christmas and goes on to become multi-platinum in Australia.

1992
Love in Motion with Christina Amphlett (lead singer with The Divinyls), produced by studio guru Bil Laswell, is released. Major project titled Full Circle (still to be released in Australia) is commenced. Full Circle is a collection of remixes of old Icehouse material by Bill Laswell, 808 State and General Dynamics. In December Iva Davies begins work on a new project with will result in the album Big Wheel.

1993
Full Circle is released overseas. A four track sampler titled Spin One is released in Australia. The single Satellite is released on September 6th accompanied by a video featuring "erotic goddess" Christie McNicole and well known actor Marcus Graham in drag. Davies gives notice of his interest in recording cover versions of songs which have influenced him by releasing a live version of the Brian Eno/Robert Fripp song Blank Frank. Big Wheel, which includes a Macintosh computer interactive floppy disk, is released on 22nd October. Icehouse starts touring Big Wheel. Davies creates his own in-house production company DIVA Records.

1994
Big Wheel tour continues until May. The band comprised David Chapman (guitar), Paul Gildea (guitar), Paul Wheeler (drums), Steve Morgan (bass), Simon Lloyd (keyboards, sax). In July Davies starts work on BERLIN. Davies is approached by Graeme Murphy from The Sydney Dance Company to contribute to the ballet FORNICON.

1995
Release of The Berlin Tapes - a collection of cover versions of songs by David Bowie, Eno/Bowie, Simple Minds, The Psychedelic Furs, Frank Sinatra, Lou Reed, Roxy Music, XTC, Talking Heads, The Velvet Underground, PiL, The Cure and Killing Joke. The Sydney Dance Company work on creating a ballet which becomes BERLIN.

As well as recording the score to the ballet, Iva performed these songs live with Icehouse at each show. He was an intrinsic part of the ballet, in a role similar to the one in BOXES. Iva was extremely successful in creating a translation from the dancers to the audience. BERLIN was an instant success and ran for two seasons. Both BOXES and BERLIN were two of the most successful shows that The Sydney Dance Company have had to date.

1998
Iva Davies has spent time in Japan, Germany and the UK writing material for his forthcoming album.

1999
New Year's Eve Millennium performance "Great Southern Land" at Sydney Opera House.


Awards & Highlights

1980 Countdown Johnny O'Keefe Award for the Best New Group
1980 Ampex Gold Tape Award "Icehouse"
1982 Countdown Award - Most Popular Male Performer
1982 Ampex Gold Tape Award "Primitive Man"
1984 Ampex Gold Tape Award "Sidewalk"
1984 A.F.I. (Australian Film Institute) Awards Nominations for "best Musical Score" for "Razorback"
1985 APRA (Australian Performing Rights Association) Most performed Music for Film "Razorback"
1987 ARIA (Australian Record Industry Award) Best Album "Man of Colours"
1987 ARIA (Australian Record Industry Award) Highest Selling Album 'Man of Colours"
1987 13th Annual "Mo Awards" (Australian Variety Artist Association) Nomination for "Best Rock Group"
1988 APRA (Australian Performing Rights Association) Most performed song "Electric Blue"
1989 ASCAP (American Performing Rights Association) Among the Most Performed songs "Electric Blue"
1990 13th Annual "Mo Awards" (Variety Club of Australia) Nomination for Best Rock Group
1990 Aria (Australian Record Industry Award) Final Nomination Best Cover "Code Blue"
1991 16TH Annual "Mo Awards" (Australian Variety Artist Association) Nomination
for "Best Male Performer" - Iva Davies
for "Best Rock Group" - Icehouse
for "Rock Performance of the Year" - Icehouse
1991 Ampex Gold Tape Award "Code Blue"


8 Top Ten Album
20 Top 40 Singles
Album Sales in excess of 28 Platinum Albums in Australasia alone
Top Twenty Singles in USA, Britain, Europe (including No. 1's)

13 years extensive performing in Australasia, USA, Britain, Europe and Japan.
Has worked with such numerous notable musicians as David Bowie, Brian Eno, Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music, Yukahiro Takahasi, Elvis Costello, Simple Minds, Peter Tosh, Robert Palmer, XTC, Psychedelic Furs and many more.

1974 First Opera Performed in Sydney Opera House (orchestral performance)
1979 "Flowers" Highest paid unsigned act in Australia
1980 "Flowers" Highest selling Debut Album in Australia
1985 "Boxes" Ballet with Sydney Dance Company at Opera House voted "Event of the year by "Rolling Stone Magazine"
1987 "Man of Colours" highest selling album by an Australian band
1988 Bicentennial royal Command Performance
1988 Performance Closing Brisbane Expo
1988 Performance opening Adelaide Arts Festival
1990 Headline "Australian Music Day" performance at Sydney Entertainment Centre Internationally televised.
1993 "Big Wheel Album first Australian Interactive floppy disk release.
1995 "BERLIN" with Max Lambert and the Sydney Dance Company opens at the Sydney Opera House and continues its success into 1996 with international and Australian seasons.
1999 'The Ghost of Time' performed with Richard Tognetti, and Sydney Symphony Orchestra on Millennium Eve at the Sydney Opera House as part of Australia's contribution to the international Millennium Celebrations, which was telecast to a viewing audience of 2.5 billion people.
2000 ‘Circles in sky” commissioned as the theme song for the Olympic Live sites during the celebration of the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games.



ICEHOUSE RECORDINGS


ICEHOUSE by FLOWERS

ICEHOUSE by ICEHOUSE

PRIMITIVE MAN (OZ)

PRIMITIVE MAN (US)

LOVE IN MOTION (PRIMITIVE MAN UK)

FRESCO

SIDEWALK

BOXES

MEASURE FOR MEASURE (OZ)

MEASURE FOR MEASURE (US & UK)

MAN OF COLOURS (OZ)

MAN OF COLOURS (US & UK)

GREAT SOUTHERN LAND

CODE BLUE

MASTERFILE

BIG WHEEL

FULL CIRCLE

THE BERLIN TAPES

THE GHOST OF TIME
IVA DAVIES - THE GHOST OF TIME

How can anyone accurately draw a line between the careers of the hugely successful Australian rock/pop group Icehouse and its lead singer/songwriter/creative driving force, Iva Davies?

Davies is a musician who constantly pushes his own creative limits by searching for new and challenging projects. Confronted with turning 'Great Southern Land', his seminal song about the nature of Australia, into a 40 minute composition he developed the idea (something which could only ever work in an age of e-mails, electronic communication and the internet) of drawing together composers and musicians from all over the world to produce a complex collaborative work.

The idea was to turn 'Great Southern Land' into a piece of music which, in the minutes before midnight when the clock turns over from 1999 to 2000, would be performed on the northern forecourt of Sydney's Opera House. It was broadcast around Australia on the Millennium Eve and became a part of Australia's contribution to the vast international Millennium Eve celebration.

Using a rewritten and expanded version of 'Great Southern Land' as the composition's centerpiece, Davies has called upon a number of musician-composers to develop the larger work "Music for the Great South Land'. Richard Tognetti, virtuoso violinist and Director of the Australian Chamber Orchestra, has collaborated extensively on the piece. Award winning Australian composer Christopher Gordon has written a ten minute composition inspired by the long, 'endless horizon' opening to the original song. The Japanese avant techno unit Rom+Pari is contributing as is old Icehouse and Pink Floyd bass player Guy Pratt and a group of Taiko drummers.

The composition was performed on Millennium Eve by a musical 'group' comprising the Sydney Symphony Orchestra, Richard Tognetti on electric violin, Guy Pratt on electronic bass, a group of Taiko drummers and Iva Davies on vocal s and electric guitar. It was also released as a CD in the weeks prior to the end of the year.

Music for THE GHOST OF TIME gives notice that Iva Davies is moving into a new phase in his career. Early in the new millennium he will release a new single and CD.

The Millennium heralds the emergence of Iva Davies as a major solo talent who, as his work matures and as his musical palette expands, is looking beyond the neat landscape of sharp pop and finding new worlds of greater complexity, subtlety and innovation which he is eager to explore and conquer.

Hmmm, nah Chiesel, Midnight Oil, You am I are a lot better and deserve more respect
 

2 True Blues

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Ron Jeremy said:
One of the most talented groups ever to come from our country ever, yet people talk about sh*thouse groups like Chisel, Frenzal romb etc

Here are some of their most well known songs:

Great Southern land

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mkidP2OUCk&mode=related&search=

No promises

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBif6w-SiY&mode=related&search=

Crazy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNtRusaM5MU&mode=related&search=

Street Cafe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS31iCcCxeA&mode=related&search=

Hey Little girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy6wTL2k0Bw&mode=related&search=

Electric Blue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xYQBTwP3t0&mode=related&search=

We can get together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWX1ljOda-E&mode=related&search=

They are some of their hits, they made it overseas unlike other crap Aussie bands, yet why aren't people influenced by Iva? yet everyone is influenced by cokhead Garret? yet he had a sh*thouse voice!

MMMmmmmm :-k 8-[

I was always a fan of Icehouse. but putting Chisel in the same sentence as ROMB is an insult to the national pride little mate. :crazy: :D ;-)
 

OVP

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Ron Jeremy said:
How good is the walls film clip, simple but f**king awesome.

exactly right mate. Wow im stunned youve all of a sudden "found" one of my favourite bands. Thankyou for that Ron.

But still ... look deeper into when they were known as Flowers ... sh*t they were truly GREAT then. As Icehouse, well id call them very good :)
 

carcharias

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Originally Posted by Eelementary
That's been my biggest beef with Australians for some time - awesome artists like Icehouse and AC/DC get no respect, and yet Cold Chisel (who I'd never ever heard of prior to returning to Australia) are the greatest band ever.

are you on meth?

Where and who have AC/DC not got respect from?

You need to change the radio station if you think Cold Chisel are being called the greatest band ever.
 

OVP

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carcharias said:
are you on meth?

Where and who have AC/DC not got respect from?

You need to change the radio station if you think Cold Chisel are being called the greatest band ever.

Channel 9 gives ACDC no respect, thats probably what he meant. When they did the Channel 9 thing with Bert about Australia's greatest EVER songs, ACDC werent even in the top 10. Pathetic really, but thats how alot of old farts think. They wouldnt even know who they were, even though they are BY FAR our greatest ever band, they just have no idea of who they are or what theyve done. Do you know who had the Number 1 spot on that Channel 9 special ? Stevie f**king Wright ... what era are these geniuss in ? He has a point mate. ACDC just aint respected by idiots. And idiots control the free to air channels. Go figure :crazy:
 

carcharias

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Channel 9 gives ACDC no respect, thats probably what he meant. When they did the Channel 9 thing with Bert about Australia's greatest EVER songs, ACDC werent even in the top 10. Pathetic really, but thats how alot of old farts think. They wouldnt even know who they were, even though they are BY FAR our greatest ever band, they just have no idea of who they are or what theyve done. Do you know who had the Number 1 spot on that Channel 9 special ? Stevie f**king Wright ... what era are these geniuss in ? He has a point mate. ACDC just aint respected by idiots. And idiots control the free to air channels. Go figure :crazy:

So bert doesn't rate ACDC?
The last time I looked chanel 9 was a tv station that broadcasts tv shows.
What that has to do with ACDC is beyond me.



As for Stevie Fuggen Wright... do you know who wrote his biggest hits?
Vanda and young.

Look ém up..... you'll feel a bit stupid when you discover their extremely close ties to ACDC.
 

Ron Jeremy

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carcharias said:
are you on meth?

Where and who have AC/DC not got respect from?

You need to change the radio station if you think Cold Chisel are being called the greatest band ever.

ACDC don't get respect anywhere near as much as Cold Chiesel
 

carcharias

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Ron Jeremy said:
ACDC don't get respect anywhere near as much as Cold Chiesel

WTF?

You should try your album sales theory Ron.

I am pretty sure you will find ACDC win hands down.
 

Ron Jeremy

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carcharias said:
WTF?

You should try your album sales theory Ron.

I am pretty sure you will find ACDC win hands down.

Yes record sales OVERSEAS thats my point. They are huge internationally, actually, am i right if i say that ACDC made it overseas before they made it here.........i think i am.

They get respect, yes, but don't tell me that ACDC get more attention then Jimmy barnes or Chiesel in the media or on the radio, thats is what i mean, they're not appreciated, argurably one of the best bands of all time which Australia produced yet we hear more about Jason Donovon then ACDC these days.
 

carcharias

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Ron Jeremy said:
Yes record sales OVERSEAS thats my point. They are huge internationally, actually, am i right if i say that ACDC made it overseas before they made it here.........i think i am.

They get respect, yes, but don't tell me that ACDC get more attention then Jimmy barnes or Chiesel in the media or on the radio, thats is what i mean, they're not appreciated, argurably one of the best bands of all time which Australia produced yet we hear more about Jason Donovon then ACDC these days.
You are so so wrong ronny.

ACDC with Bon singing made here long before they went to the UK and USA.
Have you ever heard the double J recording of them at Haymarket in about 76?


They get just as much airplay as Chisel .
At work we have 2ws on all day long and I can tell you a day doesn't go by without fuggen khe sahn and jailbreak or the equivelant getting a spin.
Barnse gets attention because he actually lives in Australia and still does local tours and puts out records.

the Australian ACDC tribute album came out almost a decade before the Chisel one.
 

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