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If you hate Morts...

The Colonel

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Either that or its a lack of options or Morts has a very good contract.

Can just see the negotiations now...... So, Mr Osborne I'll only sign if I am guaranteed a start regardless of how well I or the team are performing.

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Maroubra Eel

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It was all a bit strange Colonel how he was playing so bad but never got dropped. And when he finally did get dropped, they were just resting him.
 

spartan2153

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It was all a bit strange Colonel how he was playing so bad but never got dropped. And when he finally did get dropped, they were just resting him.

Yeah you notice the fuss the telegraph made about him being dropped & you wonder why he was dropped in the first place. Osbourne has f#cked our club in regards to how he has promoted mortimer
 

Poupou Escobar

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It was all a bit strange Colonel how he was playing so bad but never got dropped. And when he finally did get dropped, they were just resting him.

When he's your only creative option in the halves it's kind of hard to drop a bloke.

We've got a lot more depth this year so it'll be interesting to see how Morts is used.
 

The Colonel

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It was all a bit strange Colonel how he was playing so bad but never got dropped. And when he finally did get dropped, they were just resting him.

Was it really that strange or are people on here just prone to conspiracy theories? Really I thought Casper was the only one.... but that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe people just need something to complain about in the off season.

Our lower grade sides weren't travelling well and when players like Robson and Keating were used at halfback our situation didn't change all that much either - yes they had some decent games but then so did Mortimer - yet none of the three deserved the role as a starting halfback. I am surprised that Humble wasn't used more however given the reported lack of communication between our then first grade coach and the Wentworthville club maybe I shouldn't be.
 

lingard

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better than Thurston and Maloney defencively?? :lol:

and Smith is miles ahead is he? despite them being different styles of players it's a pretty simplistic almost ridiculous comment to make.


No. I said that Thurston and Maloney are better than Mortimer defensively. Yeah, I know they`re different styles, but I think that Tim Smith did more for Cronulla`s attack last year than Mortimer did for ours.
 

lingard

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Quite simply, yes. It poses a very interesting question. What would have happened had Anderson been allowed to sign Tim Smith in 2009 like he wanted to? I believe we would have been playing a totally different style of footy - not to mention scoring more points. Oh well.

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Whoa. Hold on a minute. Where did you get the idea that Anderson wanted to sign Tim Smith? And we need facts here, not guesses.
 

lingard

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This is the same Tim Smith being touted as one of the worst halfbacks alongside Mortimer and Sandow for 2011 right?

Was a gem of a player 2005 - 2007, but anyone thinking he'd take the Eels to another finals series are deadset kidding themselves, he's way past it and probably won't be improving anymore.


Slow down. Tim Smith is only a shadow of what he used to be. I`m just saying that his attack - limited as it is these days - is better than Mortimer`s was last year. That`s all. It was meant to highlight how bad Mortimer was - not how good Smith was. And Sandow one of the worst half-backs in the NRL? Did anyone actually watch any Souths games last year?
 

lingard

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I think Tim Smith will go a lot better this year (but I think that about Mortimer too).

And Morts is a better defender than half the halves going around. Most of the others have glaring weakness without putting in the effort like Morts. At least he puts his body in front of the runner.


I hope you aren`t basing that on the 400-odd tackles he was 'involved in' last year. Get your head out of the stats pages and open your eyes.
 

lingard

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Nobody gave a f**k about Horo or Reddy until they proved they could play. Why would we treat the son of a Bulldogs player any different?

I think some people are just better judges of potential than others.

Don't forget two NRL coaches now have shown faith in him. I can't see Mortimer playing as badly this year as last year. He'll be twice the player under a better system.


Neither of those two players has dealt up 26 consecutive weeks of absolute sh*t yet, either. What about Eric Grothe? I think he`d been given the benefit of the doubt on many occasions because of his name and the influence of his dad.
 

lingard

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Nobody gave a f**k about Horo or Reddy until they proved they could play. Why would we treat the son of a Bulldogs player any different?

I think some people are just better judges of potential than others.

Don't forget two NRL coaches now have shown faith in him. I can't see Mortimer playing as badly this year as last year. He'll be twice the player under a better system.


Two coaches? How has Kearney shown faith in him? The season hasn`t started yet. Don`t fall for all that Daily Telegraph nonsense. Just because Kearney might start the season with Robson and Mortimer, doesn`t mean he`s doing cart-wheels over the pair. No-one else is on the side-lines screaming "pick me!" are they? (Although, if Anderson had given Tom Humble the chance he deserved, we wouldn`t be having this conversation.) You`re right - some of us are better judges of potential than others.
 

andrew057

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Hope Ozzie was at the game tonight, should sign Adrian Lam up for a few season, he showed more in 60mins tonight than any Parra half has for the past 5 years.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I hope you aren`t basing that on the 400-odd tackles he was 'involved in' last year. Get your head out of the stats pages and open your eyes.

I even gave you the game and minute of a compilation of Mortimer hits. You just made some idiot comment about that being the only tackles he made all year.

Honestly, if Mortimer's 400+ 'tackles' aren't proper tackles then neither are any other half's.

Every halfback in the NRL gets help in defence. Coaches would prefer that none of their players - from front-rowers to fullbacks - are forced into making one-on-one tackles. That's why we keep a straight line in defence.

Stop living in the 70s lingard.

Neither of those two players has dealt up 26 consecutive weeks of absolute sh*t yet, either.

I don't think Morts was as bad as you remember.

You're displaying a very obvious cognitive bias regarding what Mortimer did last year.

What about Eric Grothe? I think he`d been given the benefit of the doubt on many occasions because of his name and the influence of his dad.

bullsh*t.

Two coaches?

Anderson and Kearney.

How has Kearney shown faith in him?

By saying he's first choice for one of the halves spots.

The season hasn`t started yet.

But training has.

Don`t fall for all that Daily Telegraph nonsense.

He said it on video.

Just because Kearney might start the season with Robson and Mortimer, doesn`t mean he`s doing cart-wheels over the pair.

Nobody said he's excited about our halves options. Honestly, who is? That's why we're all hoping, and the management are making indications, that they are on the lookout for a topline playmaker.

No-one else is on the side-lines screaming "pick me!" are they? (Although, if Anderson had given Tom Humble the chance he deserved, we wouldn`t be having this conversation.) You`re right - some of us are better judges of potential than others.

I think we should be looking for a playmaker with some explosiveness and footwork, which is why Braith would be a waste of money in our side.

Humble does indeed have explosiveness and footwork out of all our halves options but there's still question marks over his brains and ball-skills.

After all, he wasn't much of a playmaker in NYC - even Morts was better than him.
 

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