In Hindsight; Shackleton vs Gulavau & Kingston

[lucablight]

One thing you can never say about Cayless is that he shirks his duties.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

I have only 2 critisisms of Cayless. He doesnt bend the line back/he surrenders too much for a front rower and he isnt aggressive enough for a front rower. But in saying that, he does alot of good things to and he is our best choice for captain at the moment too. He has the most controled offloading game of any of our forwards.

Great clubman.

 

[84 Baby]

i agree with everything you said exept for the part that caylo is a work horse.

What would you call a bloke who runs 15 times a game for 100m, makes 25 tackles, pops a couple of offloads and puts in even when he's being outmuscled?

 

[footy1]

You guys are getting a great player in Shackleton. He was going great for us in the beginning of the year and even managed representative honours, until he got an injury mid-season and when he came back, just wasn't as effective. But I think he will fit perfectly into who structure. He will do a lot of hard work up the middle and will take some pressure off Hindmarsh from doing all the tackling.

 

[Eelementary]

hindy plays 80 minutes though

True.

I disagree, while he makes 15 hit ups but makes around 30-35 tackles a game and just as many tackles hindy on tackles/min

That's pretty much what I was getting at....

One thing you can never say about Cayless is that he shirks his duties.

Agreed.

I have only 2 critisisms of Cayless. He doesnt bend the line back/he surrenders too much for a front rower and he isnt aggressive enough for a front rower. But in saying that, he does alot of good things to and he is our best choice for captain at the moment too. He has the most controled offloading game of any of our forwards.

Great clubman.

Agreed.

 

[oldmancraigy]

to put it into perspective
Gulavau - 150K (atleast 120K i would imagine)
Kingston - 105K (55K + the 50K match payments)
Shakelton - 170K (from all reports)

So 255K vs 170K (+55K for Mitchell) we probably got the better end of the deal. I think we will miss Joe more then Kinga, he has improved so much and I hope Shak can fill that void and then some.

Thank you!!!

What did Manly sign Gulavao for? Was it 150k or 170k?

Either way, the equation is NOT equal. We couldn't sign both Kingston and Gulavao for the money we paid Shackleton.

Dumb poll?

 

[Craig Johnston]

manly signed joe for very little, to the point where he was considering accepting our minimum salary because the cost of transit would have sapped up the difference in manly's offer. manly got him over the line with a rental car and accomodation at crusher's house

 

[Eels Dude]

I think Shackleton complements our side. We need a backrower who can play a lot of minutes, and the fact Shacks can also play in the front row is an added bonus. I also recall at the time of his signing that Ando said one reason they signed him is because he is a very good bloke off the field and fits in with the culture they're trying to develop at Parramatta.

 

[born an eel]

manly signed joe for very little, to the point where he was considering accepting our minimum salary because the cost of transit would have sapped up the difference in manly's offer. manly got him over the line with a rental car and accomodation at crusher's house

which need to be declared as part of the salary cap anyway

 

[born an eel]

I think Shackleton complements our side. We need a backrower who can play a lot of minutes, and the fact Shacks can also play in the front row is an added bonus. I also recall at the time of his signing that Ando said one reason they signed him is because he is a very good bloke off the field and fits in with the culture they're trying to develop at Parramatta.

because we don't have any of those. How many 80min backrowers can we fit into a side.:crazy:

 

[Eels Dude]

manly signed joe for very little, to the point where he was considering accepting our minimum salary because the cost of transit would have sapped up the difference in manly's offer. manly got him over the line with a rental car and accomodation at crusher's house

I don't think it was the cost of transit more the inconvenience. He owns a place in St Clair and he and his wife have one car in the family so the effort of commuting every day to Manly and back via public transport would be too time consuming so he was reluctant to sign with Manly for that reason. I wouldn't want to commute via public transport from St Clair to Manly every day either. It could be 2 hours each way.

 

[Eels Dude]

because we don't have any of those. How many 80min backrowers can we fit into a side.:crazy:

We have Hindy obviously. Ben Smith is still finding his feet as a backrower but getting there. Mateo can play a lot of minutes but is wasted as a workhorse. Someone like Shacks who play 30 minutes in the backrow and another 20 in the front will be a very handy asset.

 

[Eelementary]

We have Hindy obviously. Ben Smith is still finding his feet as a backrower but getting there. Mateo can play a lot of minutes but is wasted as a workhorse. Someone like Shacks who play 30 minutes in the backrow and another 20 in the front will be a very handy asset.

Totally agree.

 

[Craig Johnston]

I don't think it was the cost of transit more the inconvenience. He owns a place in St Clair and he and his wife have one car in the family so the effort of commuting every day to Manly and back via public transport would be too time consuming so he was reluctant to sign with Manly for that reason. I wouldn't want to commute via public transport from St Clair to Manly every day either. It could be 2 hours each way.

http://www.nrl.com/NewsViews/LatestNews/NewsArticle/tabid/10874/newsId/55914/Default.aspx

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25896712-5003409,00.html
“Joe is weighing up whether he should take Manly’s offer or retire,” Galuvao’s manager Allan Gainey told NRL.com today.

“The travelling is the biggest problem – he wants to stay in St Marys. He has two kids and a wife and he owns his house out there.

“He doesn’t want to pay astronomical rent on a three-bedroom unit in Manly – it would probably cost him more than his contract is worth!

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25896712-5003409,00.html

A major part of Galuvao's deliberations revolved around the nightmarish logistics of commuting from his family home in St Marys to Brookvale with only one car between he and wife, Maybelle. Galuvao was also wary of the impact the move would have on his commitments to troubled youth in Sydney's west, where he provides religious counselling.
"Manly have agreed to help out with a car and they've also said I can spend some night's at (recruitment manager) Noel Cleal's house,'' Galuvao said.

a little of both it seems

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Stagger said this a while ago, but the funny thing is, Crusher lives in Castle Hill. Might take 20 minutes out of Joeys trip, but hardly worth it.