In what direction is the universe expanding?

[Bring back John Fifita]

I was pondering where a flying saucer might come from and apparently in our closest star system called Alpha Centuri, they think it has one habitable planet.

Its “only” about 4 light years away and if you wanted to visit earth to take in state of origin, but you only had our fastest earth made star ship probe, it’s still going to take you 60,000 years.

So the UFO folk, they want us to believe countless Generations of aliens being born, living, mating and dying on the ship until it reaches earth.

And when they do arrive, draw a crop circle, mangle a few cows and/or suck us up to stick a probe where it hurts.

I mean if you had the tech to speed up, you’d also want to make sure you can stop and woe betide Pi - 3356476 if he misses the brake pedal after 30,000 years or something at Mach 4.7.

Even if you had better tech, say my light year transformation, from what I understand, we flatter ourselves as a holiday or scientific destination for an alien.

And besides, the most numerous species on earth are the insects. The aliens might want to visit the smartest praying mantis before worrying about us. That could explain why actual photos of greys are thin on ground.

The immense size of this stuff just boggles the mind...

And at the other end of the scale, I often think this...

Think of the smallest form of matter. The simple atom. It has a central particle a mix of protons / neutrons.. which electrons orbit ..

Now....

Think about our solar system...

At its centre is the Sun, a mix of gases of immense size. Then you have planets that orbit the sun at varying distances...

The fundamentals of both the simple atom, and our solar system are made up of a central body orbited by smaller bodies.

And so....

What if our solar system was effectively an atom to an immensely larger structure...

 

[Parra]

Yeah I conceded that, but if your average alien lives a 100 years, you still have 600 generations required to make it here and another 600 to make it back.

60,000 years, that’s about the entire history of the indigenous people here. That’s staggering.

But in terms of communications, you’d have to build a giant Morse code lamp and it would take 4.7 years for the report to reach home.

But I got this sneaking suspicion, @Parra is going to tell me that time is going to do it’s thing and the alien visitors are going to be younger than the greys at home.

You have them travelling relatively slowly. My guess is that there will be some difference due to the vast time and distance. Nothing like it would be if you bumped the travelers speed up to near the speed of light.

 

[gUt]

Its outrageous!

Thanks a lot for your time.

There’s strange things here on earth too. Like apparently some birds, they sense what us humans see in real time ....but in slow motion.

Can you imagine a footballer that has ( in his mind) half an hour to catch a pass as it floats through the air towards him?

Dad used to say, science was always better than fiction.

He couldn’t buy into ufos though. No reliable evidence.

 

[Nuke]

The immense size of this stuff just boggles the mind...

And at the other end of the scale, I often think this...

Think of the smallest form of matter. The simple atom. It has a central particle a mix of protons / neutrons.. which electrons orbit ..

Now....

Think about our solar system...

At its centre is the Sun, a mix of gases of immense size. Then you have planets that orbit the sun at varying distances...

The fundamentals of both the simple atom, and our solar system are made up of a central body orbited by smaller bodies.

And so....

What if our solar system was effectively an atom to an immensely larger structure...

I've pondered that same thought many times too.

In regards to the sheer distance between our nearest neighbours, I read this comparison years ago that I've never forgotten.
It said that if a ping pong ball placed in Perth represents our sun (with a small dot on it representing Earth), our nearest neighbour is a tennis ball in Adelaide.

 

[Parra]

I've pondered that same thought many times too.

In regards to the sheer distance between our nearest neighbours, I read this comparison years ago that I've never forgotten.
It said that if a ping pong ball placed in Perth represents our sun (with a small dot on it representing Earth), our nearest neighbour is a tennis ball in Adelaide.

A hydrogen atom is about 99.9999999999996% empty space. Put another way, if a hydrogen atom were the size of the earth, the proton at its center would be about 200 meters across

https://education.jlab.org/qa/how-much-of-an-atom-is-empty-space.html

 

[mongoose]

The immense size of this stuff just boggles the mind...

And at the other end of the scale, I often think this...

Think of the smallest form of matter. The simple atom. It has a central particle a mix of protons / neutrons.. which electrons orbit ..

Now....

Think about our solar system...

At its centre is the Sun, a mix of gases of immense size. Then you have planets that orbit the sun at varying distances...

The fundamentals of both the simple atom, and our solar system are made up of a central body orbited by smaller bodies.

And so....

What if our solar system was effectively an atom to an immensely larger structure...

An Atom is also 99% empty space, which technically means your body is 99% empty space and everything else you can touch.

EDIT- Damn Didn't see the post above^^

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

I was going to ask @Everlovin' Antichrist or anyone else who is astronomical.

So Hubble said the whole show is expanding and the expansion is speeding up.

I was trying to work out where they said it started relative to our Sun?

Also, is the acceleration a constant or do different chunks of the universe go faster?

Also, If we accept the Big Bang, how could something come from nothing? Surely there was something at the start of the mess?

It just doesn’t make any sense to me that a couple of atoms or whatever just materialises from the void.

I know stranger things have happened like the signing of Packer for $850k, and I’m not putting up anything creationist, but I’m a tad uncomfortable with this explanation.

Any insights appreciated.

Thanks.

Sorry dude, I'm about as deep as a puddle of fly piss.

About the closest I get to thinking about the Big Bang is watching Kayley Cuoco's vids on Pornhub...

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Sorry dude, I'm about as deep as a puddle of fly piss.

About the closest I get to thinking about the Big Bang is watching Kayley Cuoco's vids on Pornhub...

I’m sure Stephen Hawking was a big fan of hers as well.

“Kayley does CERN and the Large Hadron Collider” being a favourite.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I’m prettt sure I’ve seen Kayleys Nobel Prize winning lecture on gravity and blackholes.

An outstanding contribution to science and a fine body of work.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Heres a photo I took of that blue moon the other night, but have a look at that light taily thing in the shape of a moose without antlers. A genuine UFO.

if you enlarge it, you can tell I haven’t messed with it. I’m not saying it’s a flying saucer, but it’s unexplained.

Very strange.

 

[Generalzod]

I love lookin up at the night sky , i'll be buying a telescope in the near future, But as an experiment I bought myself a slow speed shutter ap for my Iphone 7 and pointed the camera without a tripod straight to the constellation Orion and took a picture, I uploaded to my laptop and used a free version of an app called hitpawphotoenhancer which I will buy the full version when I get my telescope, The app used it's alogorithms and enhanced my photo and to my amasement there they where the nebulars of orion, it wasn't perfect but when I will get my attachement to place on my astrobinoculars hopefully I can get a clearer picture....

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I love lookin up at the night sky today, i'll be buying a telescope in the near future, But as an experiment I bought myself a slow speed shutter ap for my Iphone 7 and pointed the camera without a tripod straight to the constellation Orion and took a picture, I uploaded to my laptop and used a free version of an app called hitpawphotoenhancer which I will buy the full version when I get my telescope, The app used it's alogorithms and enhanced my photo and to my amasement there they where the nebulars of orion, it wasn't perfect but when I will get my attachement to place on my astrobinoculars hopefully I can get a clearer picture....

Yay!

@Tigerm buddy on WT forum and I are right into this space stuff.

It would be great if you could post a photo up for us. I’ll use it at work as a screensaver.

Check this out below, a fascinating lecture on travelling long distances in space.

I’m a Saturn follower myself, but did you know there’s ice on Mercury? Read up.

 

[Generalzod]

I love this but it cost $4000 us and it’s totally automated…

 

[Generalzod]

Yay!

@Tigerm buddy on WT forum and I are right into this space stuff.

It would be great if you could post a photo up for us. I’ll use it at work as a screensaver.

Check this out below, a fascinating lecture on travelling long distances in space.

I’m a Saturn follower myself, but did you know there’s ice on Mercury? Read up.

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you Would need the images from the huble for a clean looking screensaver…lol

 

[Tigerm]

Yay!

@Tigerm buddy on WT forum and I are right into this space stuff.

It would be great if you could post a photo up for us. I’ll use it at work as a screensaver.

Check this out below, a fascinating lecture on travelling long distances in space.

I’m a Saturn follower myself, but did you know there’s ice on Mercury? Read up.

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Come on, isn’t the universe just exisiting in a bottle of water in the back of a giants cupboard, and it will all end, when he finally gets it out to drink it?

“We are just a microscopic cog in a catastrophic plan” (Nick Cave, my favourite line ever)

 

[The Lounge Lizard]

This would have to be the trippiest thread I've ever read on LU.

By a huge margin.

 

[The Lounge Lizard]

“We are just a microscopic cog in a catastrophic plan” (Nick Cave, my favourite line ever)

I'm pretty sure that line comes from Red Right Hand.

Am I correct?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I'm pretty sure that line comes from Red Right Hand.

Am I correct?

Well it’s not from Dee-Anna!

I love that song. Chaos!

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

you Would need the images from the huble for a clean looking screensaver…lol

A blurry glob of space is fine. Try not to take a picture of a dark cupboard or something rude and pass it off as andromeda. You’ll get me sacked!

 

[Tigerm]

I'm pretty sure that line comes from Red Right Hand.

Am I correct?

Yes