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Ind Pres XI v Australians at Chennai Feb 12-13, 2013

Earl

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Inverarity the onld merkin loves an all rounder.

He'll find room in the team for Smith, Maxwell & Henriques

1. Warner
2. Watson
3. Clarke
4. Wade
5. Smith
6. Maxwell
7. Henriques
 

Red&BlackBear

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Yes because Khawaja is SO much better...not our fault your golden child has been ordinary:lol:

He is so much better than all those 3. Anyone with a brain who knows even the smallest amount of cricket agrees with that. Except you, who wouldn't know how to bloody hold a cricket bat let alone who is better.
 

lockyno1

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He is so much better than all those 3. Anyone with a brain who knows even the smallest amount of cricket agrees with that. Except you, who wouldn't know how to bloody hold a cricket bat let alone who is better.

No he isn't as frankly he isn't scoring runs. Potentially MAYBE but right now with a test series against India when he is an average at best player of spin is not a smart choice. He is yet to show that he has worked on his serious issue of blocking out maidens all day long.
 

Red&BlackBear

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No he isn't as frankly he isn't scoring runs. Potentially MAYBE but right now with a test series against India when he is an average at best player of spin is not a smart choice. He is yet to show that he has worked on his serious issue of blocking out maidens all day long.

What makes you think he is an average player of spin? As opposed to who though anyway? No technique Maxwell? No technique Smith? No consistency Henriques?
 

caylo

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being ct behind off a bouncer is rather fortunate for the bowler imo, thats not his intended way of getting a wicket, more like luck

not bagging Henriques, just would read too much into one bowling innings

Check out how Johnson has taken the majority of his wickets, a lot of them with batsmen miss timing shorter balls. There is skill in bowling a good bouncer and it no more fortunate when a batsmen goes for a cover driver and edge it to second or third slip.

Compare the run rate off Henriques bowling compared to Pattinson and Siddle, consider his avg in shield cricket and his ability to reverse the ball. It is more then one bowling display but this should go a long way to convincing selectors considering his shield form and balance of the team. I have was gunning for him before the tour match.

Which is EXACTLY why Henriques WON'T play, there is just no room. The only time he will play is if we have a rank turner an they play Doherty & Lyon...then a bowling all rounder is a sensible decision. However, he won't play.

England won two test with 2 pace bowlers, I think two spinners are essential. Lyon and Doherty aren't the best spinners but Doherty is pretty economical and that will work in his favour while the condition will cause a variation in bounce and turn while Lyon should do well. Henriques will make a perfect balance team and the selectors cant chose Doherty and not consider playing him. To me this will be the team: Cowan, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques, Siddle, Pattinson, Doherty, Lyon
 
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Twizzle

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No he isn't as frankly he isn't scoring runs. Potentially MAYBE but right now with a test series against India when he is an average at best player of spin is not a smart choice. He is yet to show that he has worked on his serious issue of blocking out maidens all day long.

he was specifically chosen on this tour because of his ability to play spin but I guess stats guru doesn't tell you that and since when is blocking out maidens a crime in test cricket, not that he does

you really dont know much about him other than his stats, you should watch him bat one day and get a clue

you need to get a new act, this one is betting boring
 

BunniesMan

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Whats with bowlers shaving their heads when on tours to India?
It's hot, you're going to be sweating all day for weeks and weeks, long hair doesn't help.
Inverarity the onld merkin loves an all rounder.

He'll find room in the team for Smith, Maxwell & Henriques

1. Warner
2. Watson
3. Clarke
4. Wade
5. Smith
6. Maxwell
7. Henriques
You really think Hughes is getting dropped? f**koff with your trolling.
 

lockyno1

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What makes you think he is an average player of spin? As opposed to who though anyway? No technique Maxwell? No technique Smith? No consistency Henriques?

He is average at playing spin, he FAILS to look for singles...that is what a good player of spin does. Yes they hit boundaries but they look for a single or two. Usman's biggest issue still is his inability to rotate the strike. Honestly none of Smith/Maxwell/Henriques should be there, but don't pretend Khawaja is great at spin bowling. If pushed I would play Maxwell.
 

Red&BlackBear

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He is average at playing spin, he FAILS to look for singles...that is what a good player of spin does. Yes they hit boundaries but they look for a single or two. Usman's biggest issue still is his inability to rotate the strike. Honestly none of Smith/Maxwell/Henriques should be there, but don't pretend Khawaja is great at spin bowling. If pushed I would play Maxwell.

His record this season at rotating the strike has been exceptional. He plays spin just fine, he is a wristy batsmen, traditionally the best type suited for playing spin. You do know who the bulls coach is right? Old Lehmann, one of the better players of spin we've produced in the last 20 years.

Maxwell is rubbish. He doesn't know how to bat, all he knows is how to swing a chunk of wood. Sometimes it hits, more often than not it doesn't.

Just proved my point dear that you don't know anything about cricket, outside of cricinfo stats. Your information regarding Usi is also 3 seasons old.
 

lockyno1

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His record this season at rotating the strike has been exceptional. He plays spin just fine, he is a wristy batsmen, traditionally the best type suited for playing spin. You do know who the bulls coach is right? Old Lehmann, one of the better players of spin we've produced in the last 20 years.

Maxwell is rubbish. He doesn't know how to bat, all he knows is how to swing a chunk of wood. Sometimes it hits, more often than not it doesn't.

Just proved my point dear that you don't know anything about cricket, outside of cricinfo stats. Your information regarding Usi is also 3 seasons old.

So that is why his Strike rate is so poor. Yes strike rates are not critical, but you cannot go at under 35 or 40! Take his ODI games as proof as even in an EASY situation he failed to rotate the strike. Who cares who his coach is, all I care about is how HE is at playing, and frankly at the moment it isn't very good and getting a 30 in a tour match doesn't change the fact that he has barely scored a run recently. I agree Maxwell is ordinary no complaints there, but he is the best of a very bad bunch. In reality none of Khawaja, Smith or Maxwell should be near the side on form, Henriques I will cop as he is cover for Johnson as the bowling all-rounder. Maxwell has the better technique against spinners and an attacking no6 can work in the sub continent.
 

lockyno1

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England won two test with 2 pace bowlers, I think two spinners are essential. Lyon and Doherty aren't the best spinners but Doherty is pretty economical and that will work in his favour while the condition will cause a variation in bounce and turn while Lyon should do well. Henriques will make a perfect balance team and the selectors cant chose Doherty and not consider playing him. To me this will be the team: Cowan, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques, Siddle, Pattinson, Doherty, Lyon

There is a small issue that Panesar and Swann are so much better than Lyon and Doherty it isn't funny. You don't pick a spinner for the sake of it. Jimmy Anderson showed that quicks get wickets too in India. Doherty going at an average of 50 won't be playing unless tehre is a rank turner, it is what they said before the tour! LOL at your team...you aint not playing the vice captain for starters!
 

lockyno1

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so Dravid can be an exception but no one else can ?

nice one

We don't have a Laxman, Tendulkar, Yuvraj Singh, etc down the other end scoring very quickly. E\ven Clarke at his best goes at SR: 50ish only. You can't have two of them.
 

TheParraboy

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We don't have a Laxman, Tendulkar, Yuvraj Singh, etc down the other end scoring very quickly. E\ven Clarke at his best goes at SR: 50ish only. You can't have two of them.

its test cricket mate, when was the last time a test was drawn and we blamed slow run rate ?
 

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