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Opinion Is Ricky Stuart the most overrated coach ever?

Valheru

Valheru

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Raidersteve78! said:
If my 10 year old was to deck/bully or worse someone else's kid should I expect the victims parents to just get over it because he was just 10 and therefore it's all good.

No I wouldn't I would completely understand that the victims parents would not be a fan of my son and would have every right to have a negative opinion of him.
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Err yes

It is called emotional regulation. As a parent you are an adult as opposed to the 11 year olds who are children.
 
bileduct

bileduct

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mxlegend99 said:
Ricky needs to re-watch the incident. Starling is standing there with his legs clamped on Salmons leg, and Salmon has no view of this and is trying to break his leg out of the hold. No way he could tell where he was going to strike anyone if anywhere.

Doesn't look intentional. I mean obviously kicking out risks hitting blokes so it's Salmons fault. But Starling put himself in the position to cop a kick there. With how many players try to get quick play the balls kicking around like mad men, you wouldn't see me trying to slow a play the ball down like that.
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The kick in the balls is 100% intentional.

The kick to the head was pure luck.
 
mxlegend99

mxlegend99

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bileduct said:
The kick in the balls is 100% intentional.

The kick to the head was pure luck.
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How could we know it's intentional? His line of sight is blocked. He has a guy ontop of him, another with his leg held. Both of his legs kick out when he's trying to break free and the one with nowhere to go except up and down went up into his balls.

It's not impossible that he didn't know. But it's not like he was looking where he kicked or had any way to see where he was kicking. So while he had to know whoever had his foot could get hit, I don't think it's a certainty he knew where he would get hit.


It looked like a guy thrashing his legs about but one leg was held and couldn't really go anywhere else. But you're free to think it's intentional. Personally don't give a shit what reputation Salmon has. Wouldn't have upset me if he got suspended for the season and Ivan was forced to change our bench.
 
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Pink Panther

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Ricky used to just abuse officials in public places. Post World Cup final as an example.

Poor Ricky has no where he can abuse league people and collect his pay check anymore.

I can’t remember a coach being sacked for his performances at the post game presser.

Ricky used to use the post game pressers to his advantage in his early years at Canberra when he was saying there was an imbalance of talent in the NRL and how we shouldn’t expect consistent wins until he gets state of origin experience in the squad etc.
He delivered his own defence and excuses like a virtuoso and used the platform to advantage.

But now that same platform is a terrible risk to put an emotionally unbalanced person into because he actually went away from script and acted like a petulant and immature kid.
 
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Pink Panther

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As far as I can remember no coach has ever used their media platform to launch a personal attack on an opposition player for reasons not relating to the actual football match.

“ I am truly sorry that I have caused my family and the game unwarranted attention”. Where’s the apology to Salmon and his family?
 
Chief_Chujo

Chief_Chujo

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pennywisealfie said:
I for one welcome these sorts of press conferences. I expect Mene Gene Okerlund to conduct all future NRL press conferences.
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RIP Mean Gene
 
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Pink Panther

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A coach with 20 years of NRL experience publicly and verbally piles into a 23 year-old with a handful of games behind him.

And the day after, his cheerleaders in the media, choose to excuse his behaviour as misguided passion and the actions of a father. If Ricky wanted to deflect from his own teams ineptitude, their were plenty of other ways to do it. But instead he used his platform to personally and publicly attack a 23-year old, who had just started his first game of the year. And today, he delivered the mother of all non-apologies.

Consider this as a contrast, in 2018 Jack Wighton went on a drunken rampage outside a Canberra nightclub, where he assaulted three people and urinated on one of them. He was given a suspended jail sentence and a fine. The NRL stood him down for 6 weeks and a further fine. Ricky stood by his player, describing his actions at the time as “out of character.”

By Ricky Stuart standards, Wighton deserved a second chance, yet apparently something Jaemon Salmon did as a 10-12 year-old, warrants Ricky’s eternal and public wrath.
 
butchmcdick

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Speaking on Triple M Breakfast with MG, Jess & Pagey, Panthers legend Mark Geyer blasted Stuart.

“They’re pretty harsh words,” Geyer said. “This is unprecedented for mine, I have never seen a press conference like that and there’s a reason we don’t see it, because you’re not allowed to say what he said, quite simply.

“There are stories that have come out about what happened 12 years ago in an under-12’s game in 2010, which involved Ricky Stuart’s son and Jaeman Salmon. I get that, I was a coach once myself, but they were 11 years of age.

“Now that he’s said this, he’s brought in Salmon’s family, who want an explanation of why. Basically ‘we haven’t seen him for 12 years, what’s going on? How can you say this about our son?’


“I don’t get Ricky Stuart’s side. I really don’t. He’s a 55-year-old male who’s coached 500 games, he’s been in the game so long, and if that was his son, how would he feel if someone said that about his son?

“The NRL have no option. I’m afraid they have no option, there is a precedent that needs to be set. If a coach or player goes out next weekend, I want them deterred from saying something so bad about a person.

“It’s not because I’m a Penrith ex-player, if this was anyone … people saying I’m biased, I’m not biased, I’m just putting myself in the situation of the Salmon family. If that was my son I’d be filthy. I’d be knocking on his door the next day.

“I think he’s got to be suspended, for the first time ever in NRL history, a coach has to be suspended for his after-match comments about a player.”

 
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Pink Panther

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The Stick strikes me as very much a product of the present "WOKE" age.

Shoot your mouth off with no regard for the consequences, then offering some faux contrition which, at least in part, is actually doubling down on your original statement.
 
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Pink Panther

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Ricky Stuart is all about Ricky Stuart, no one else. If something goes wrong it’s not Ricky’s fault. If the team loses it’s not Ricky’s fault. If he fails as a coach it’s not Ricky’s fault. If he says something bad about someone it’s not Ricky’s fault.

The funny thing is that, all in all, Ricky isn’t to blame to here. It’s the absolute idiots that keep giving him coaching positions.
 
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