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Opinion Is Ricky Stuart the most overrated coach ever?

some11

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As I said he is probably doing it for a purpose (i.e manipulating or controlling a media narrative to benefit their club - which they all do) I would be very surprised if he is actually affected by it as much as the media are portraying it.

Anyway, I don’t really get the relativistic argument you have put forth. You don’t have to work in a hospital nursery to have the right to whinge about something (most people do). That is unless you are able to practice stoicism perfectly.
Perhaps a psychiatrists office.
 

Incorrect

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He should have used different language too to convey his point (I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any media/social uproar about the choice of language although maybe give it time)
Surely it was just an acknowledgement on Sticky's part that's it's Mardi Gras week?
 

Perth Red

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Most coaches are judged on their results. How many more years has Ricky got to show what he can do at Canberra?

In his 8 years he's missed the playoffs 5 times. He's only had 2 really good years in those 8. That's a 75% failure rate from a season point of view!

I guess he has done better than at Sharks or eels where he was pretty terrible so that's something!
 

nick87

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how many more years?
as many as it takes, god dammit... or when the west coast pirates get back in and the announce him as their inaugural HC. Which ever comes first
 

gerg

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Most coaches are judged on their results. How many more years has Ricky got to show what he can do at Canberra?

In his 8 years he's missed the playoffs 5 times. He's only had 2 really good years in those 8. That's a 75% failure rate from a season point of view!

I guess he has done better than at Sharks or eels where he was pretty terrible so that's something!

It's 'finals'. We play finals matches in this country.
 

Penrose Warrior

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Most coaches are judged on their results. How many more years has Ricky got to show what he can do at Canberra?

In his 8 years he's missed the playoffs 5 times. He's only had 2 really good years in those 8. That's a 75% failure rate from a season point of view!

I guess he has done better than at Sharks or eels where he was pretty terrible so that's something!
He'd be a Hall of Famer if he were a Warriors coach with that record.

But seriously, making the finals nearly half the time, a GF that they could've won on another day, then a pair of finals wins in 2020 isn't a bad effort at all for a non-Sydney club that can struggle to attract the top talent. Yeah, his record at the Sharks and Eels was shithouse but holy shit, as I say, if you give me his 8 years at the Warriors I would pay you significant amounts of money - and I'd say Raiders fans might feel the same.
 

Perth Red

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He'd be a Hall of Famer if he were a Warriors coach with that record.

But seriously, making the finals nearly half the time, a GF that they could've won on another day, then a pair of finals wins in 2020 isn't a bad effort at all for a non-Sydney club that can struggle to attract the top talent. Yeah, his record at the Sharks and Eels was shithouse but holy shit, as I say, if you give me his 8 years at the Warriors I would pay you significant amounts of money - and I'd say Raiders fans might feel the same.
I thought Raiders were some mega rich club? Have they not learnt the rich clubs tricks yet?
 

Colk

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He'd be a Hall of Famer if he were a Warriors coach with that record.

But seriously, making the finals nearly half the time, a GF that they could've won on another day, then a pair of finals wins in 2020 isn't a bad effort at all for a non-Sydney club that can struggle to attract the top talent. Yeah, his record at the Sharks and Eels was shithouse but holy shit, as I say, if you give me his 8 years at the Warriors I would pay you significant amounts of money - and I'd say Raiders fans might feel the same.

I am a Raiders fan and I’m not a staunch Ricky fan but what I will say is people forget about how bad we were when he started. We weren’t as bad as the Knights were, m or the Bulldogs have been but we were probably only really the next rung up.

Should he cop criticism for last year? Definitely. But we’re in a much better place than what we were under David Furner and Neil Henry
 

mongoose

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I am a Raiders fan and I’m not a staunch Ricky fan but what I will say is people forget about how bad we were when he started. We weren’t as bad as the Knights were, m or the Bulldogs have been but we were probably only really the next rung up.

Should he cop criticism for last year? Definitely. But we’re in a much better place than what we were under David Furner and Neil Henry
He has taken us to 3 prelim finals in his time. That is 3 more than what we made in the previous 14 seasons.
 

Perth Red

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I am a Raiders fan and I’m not a staunch Ricky fan but what I will say is people forget about how bad we were when he started. We weren’t as bad as the Knights were, m or the Bulldogs have been but we were probably only really the next rung up.

Should he cop criticism for last year? Definitely. But we’re in a much better place than what we were under David Furner and Neil Henry
Fair call!
 

nick87

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I thought Raiders were some mega rich club? Have they not learnt the rich clubs tricks yet?

The club is well run financially and is asset rich... that is to say it's not at any risk of going under and is probably one of the more stable clubs in the league financially

However, there isn't a ton of corporate dollars available, the Canberra market is pretty small and it's still largely a government town... it's pretty much the worst ingredients you could throw together for shady TPA's
 

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