"It’s very realistic to say that we’ll have a second team in Brisbane in 2023": V'landys

[cumbrian Mackem]

i draw the line at a 2nd NZ team
nowhere else is viable end of.. NZ has enough of a population & enough finances to support a team

teams 19 & 20 should be Perth & Adelaide
then thats it
no more.

timeline
the Brisbane Dolphins 2023
The Christchurch Orcas 2027

Perth Pirates & Adelaide Rams in 2030

Christchurch bulls and none of this play x amount of games in Christchurch, x amount in wellington and x amount in Dunedin bollocks.

 

[baselinepanther]

Christchurch bulls and none of this play x amount of games in Christchurch, x amount in wellington and x amount in Dunedin bollocks.

wellington is on the nth island anyway

I don't mind a few games being played at forsyth barr stadium in dunedin
its a 1st class facility

 

[cumbrian Mackem]

The only thing NZ Rugby has got that's worth any value is the All Blacks.

They keep players here just by virtue of that rule that "you can't be selected for the ABS if you play overseas".. but play here in what?

Super Rugby is a shadow of what it was in it's late 90s/early 2000s peak. Who wants to see the same 5 NZ teams beat Australian teams every damn year, and crush a Pacific team that's been set up seemingly as a "mea culpa" for years of NZR neglect?

South Africa see their future in Europe, Australia is a mortally wounded basket case, the Pacific Islands are hobbled by decades of NZ Rugby grabbing their best talent, and frontier markets like Asia & America are completely underdeveloped.

NZ Rugby aren't a big fish in a small pond, they're a blue whale swimming aimlessly in a Pacific ocean of goldfish, and the plankton is dying.

Bringing this BACK from thread-drift, that all makes it a perfect time for the NRL to engage with NZRL and plan a strategy to get RL a higher profile here - and really take it to RU while they're in disarray. It's a golden opportunity. Best chance they've had in nearly 30 years (remember how RL was in the ascendancy in NZ just before RU went pro?)... but if NZ 2 as the 18th team is part of that, the NRL need to start engaging with NZRL, the Warriors, Sky TV & other stakeholders BEFORE just having public brain-farts about it.

I’d seriously look at having at least 1 NRL domestic club game other than the warriors played on NZ soil every round.

Take the games to Eden park, north harbour stadium, Wellington, Hamilton, Palmerston North, Christchurch and Dunedin etc.

i would also enter a South Island u18’s side into the S.G. Ball competition long before admitting a Christchurch bulls franchise team into the NRL.

 

[cumbrian Mackem]

wellington is on the nth island anyway

I don't mind a few games being played at forsyth barr stadium in dunedin
its a 1st class facility

True but that doesn’t stop people including them into a “southern“ team.

 

[baselinepanther]

it'll be a nth island v south island rivalry with hopefully most falling into one camp or the other
even allowing for the warriors being very popular on the sth island too

 

[cumbrian Mackem]

it'll be a nth island v south island rivalry with hopefully most falling into one camp or the other
even allowing for the warriors being very popular on the sth island too

Exactly. Hopefully we’d see a return to the Auckland warriors as well instead of the NZ warriors.

 

[MugaB]

I think i remember the old southern orcas bid, was a bit of the based in Wellington, but travelling the south island for half their games, it was a very funny video bid, talking about orcas and how they can kill tigers, cowboys and knights in their waters etc..
Ill find the link, pretty good, i liked that bid, but it was around mid 2000s, and the warriors went all "New Zealand" instead of their inaugural Auckland moniker, its annoying too, its like calling out the ACT raiders, or Victorian Storm, or even worse Western Australian Reds

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

you're right , RL is a different beast
in that 99.9% of people there have never heard of it & will never have any interest in it.
Asians here don't follow our sports in any great numbers

it will be 10,000 fold over there

I disagree. RL is a great spectacle and a unique sport, unlike soccer which has leagues everywhere cannibalising one another for support.

I see plenty of East Asians attending RL matches, despite most Australians being white. I've met far more whites who hate RL than East Asians. My experience with East Asians is they actually watch the game, whereas a lot of whites think of it as lower class.

Rugby 7s has been very successful in SE Asia.

Singapore and Malaysia are part of the Commonwealth of Nations. If we want to get RL 9s into the Commonwealth Games then getting the game played in Singapore and Malaysia is a must.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Im cool with that, what do reckon about PNG tho?

Btw twiggy won't let up, if he gets a wild idea its going to be repeated at nauseam on every thread, this weeks edition is east asia, and how st.george will relocate there coz Asians love dragons, and grotd is a racist, or at least borderline racist, doesnt probably know that its offensive to assume that asians like pandas and tigers too..... oh yeah dragons are an Asian thing, lets send them up there

The Chinese Dragon is symbolic in Chinese mythology you dickhead, to the point it is celebrated all around the world by Chinese expatriates on Chinese New Year.

Malaysia would be a better fit for the Wests Tigers to relocate, as unlike Western Sydney, tigers are endemic to the country.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not even if merged with an Aus based bid? To me its a great way to gain a straight pathway, plus limit the exposure to being in PNG, probably only be there 6 matches a year, surely can fly in and out without drama on the day...
And get a PNG side added to the National Rugby League, without it being a PNG only team, if that makes sense

Didn't the Sydney suburbanites laugh at @TBoon and I when we suggested semi-relocating Wests Tigers to Perth. One rule for Sydney, another for everyone else according to them.

 

[MugaB]

The Chinese Dragon is symbolic in Chinese mythology you dickhead, to the point it is celebrated all around the world by Chinese expatriates on Chinese New Year.

Malaysia would be a better fit for the Wests Tigers to relocate, as unlike Western Sydney, tigers are endemic to the country.

Dragons +China = $$$$
Malaysia +Tigers = $$$$$
NRL WINS !!!!!!!
YAY!!!!

 

[MugaB]

Didn't the Sydney suburbanites laugh at @TBoon and I when we suggested semi-relocating Wests Tigers to Perth. One rule for Sydney, another for everyone else according to them.

Not what i was suggesting, the aus based bid is from Cairns, not an existing NRL Franchise, good one dolt, nice to see you lurking on everyone elses conversions, dropping your 2 cents of dumbshit

 

[Hartwood]

I disagree. RL is a great spectacle and a unique sport, unlike soccer which has leagues everywhere cannibalising one another for support.

I see plenty of East Asians attending RL matches, despite most Australians being white. I've met far more whites who hate RL than East Asians. My experience with East Asians is they actually watch the game, whereas a lot of whites think of it as lower class.

Rugby 7s has been very successful in SE Asia.

Singapore and Malaysia are part of the Commonwealth of Nations. If we want to get RL 9s into the Commonwealth Games then getting the game played in Singapore and Malaysia is a must.

I don't disagree with growing the game in SE Asia, but we are a long way off talking about putting an NRL side there when we don't even have teams in the 4th and 5th biggest cities in our own country

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not what i was suggesting, the aus based bid is from Cairns, not an existing NRL Franchise, good one dolt, nice to see you lurking on everyone elses conversions, dropping your 2 cents of dumbshit

So the rules don't apply to Sydney's clubs. Thanks for confirming what I said.

 

[MugaB]

So the rules don't apply to Sydney's clubs. Thanks for confirming what I said.

READ f**kWIT,
"NOT AND EXISTING NRL FRANCHISE!!!"
The rules dont apply to any existing NRL club.....dolt... seriously get your dick out of sydney, you have the biggest hard on for the NSWRL

 

[baselinepanther]

the most important element to succesfully expanding our comp by 1 .. 2 & eventually 4 new teams in the next decade is to make sure the development paths are in place & operating effectively spitting out talent left right & centre so they need to be financed appropriately.

however it looks its imperative we get development right. & that includes coaches too

 

[MugaB]

the most important element to succesfully expanding our comp by 1 .. 2 & eventually 4 new teams in the next decade is to make sure the development paths are in place & operating effectively spitting out talent left right & centre so they need to be financed appropriately.

however it looks its impeditive we get development right. & that includes coaches too

Play makers too, dont want 4 new teams that resemble the dogs and broncos at the moment, but then again the cowboys and knights started that way, actually most teams inagural teams started that way, it just seems everyone wants a winner 1st go, when it will and probably will take decades for success to ingrain an any new franchise, Melbourne storm, seem to be an anomaly, to the expansions of the past

 

[Cactus]

the most important element to succesfully expanding our comp by 1 .. 2 & eventually 4 new teams in the next decade is to make sure the development paths are in place & operating effectively spitting out talent left right & centre so they need to be financed appropriately.

however it looks its impeditive we get development right. & that includes coaches too

The most important element is that its imperative to get the wording right otherwise it may well impede things going forward.

 

[Perth Red]

The 18th spot they should put out to tender. Let anyone who wants to bid bid and choose the best option be it Perth, NZ, PNG or Adelaide (or Singapore lol). Any of those options are strategically important long term (maybe not Singapore ) so lets see who can put together a strong bid that has best chance of long term success. Id say Perth and NZ2 are in the box seat with Perth ahead if Sage really can put $30mill on the table for a new club.

 

[baselinepanther]

The most important element is that its imperative to get the wording right otherwise it may well impede things going forward.

already fixed it about 5 minutes before your post

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