"It’s very realistic to say that we’ll have a second team in Brisbane in 2023": V'landys

[MugaB]

singapore can have 55 million people
theres still ten times the supporters in the sthn part of sydney & wollongong then there is there

ive seen singapores embracing new sports

the Brumbies played the japanese side there a few years ago

to about 45 people
total

Was the crowd, cRAZy RICh and Asian?
Coz then the N.R.L is rich YAY!!!!!

 

[baselinepanther]

you have to remember though that was from a $25mill profit from the year before so the bottom line was actually a $50mill turn around. This year is likely to be equally painful with the second year of the Ch9 revised deal costing $35mill and the extra costs of relocating the game, extra NRL club grants plus smaller than hoped for crowds. Last year also accounted for hardly any money going to grass roots and NZRL compared to previous year. The actual real cost savings in admin were less than $10mill.
Unless the Fox tv deal is up, we know the NZ TV deal is up by around $10mill a year, and FTA deal is up then it will be hard to find the expansion money without taking it from elsewhere. Also it would be unlikely that the clubs and players aren't going to want more over the next 6 years.

all i know was the real figure was about a 3.5 million loss total with SOO included , 24 Million without it
new reduced TV deals & everything else taken into account
hes slashed costs so I assume this is why the result was so good.

with a similar cost to run the game this year & TV deals the same
but with 2 SOO series in this years bottom line

we will announce a pretty significant profit.
&
use this to say we can expand.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

how could any club seriously expect to sell memberships with games on at those times

Go ask the ARLC that have signed off on deals that put games in those time slots for years. Before the Fri 6pm game was introduced there was Monday night football aired on Foxtel for years. The horrible Fri 6pm game was demanded by Foxtel and the ARLC signed off on it. Our administration doesn't care about anything other than getting maximum money out of the broadcasters.

 

[Perth Red]

all i know was the real figure was about a 3.5 million loss total with SOO included , 24 Million without it
new reduced TV deals & everything else taken into account
hes slashed costs so I assume this is why the result was so good.

with a similar cost to run the game this year & TV deals the same
but with 2 SOO series in this years bottom line

we will announce a pretty significant profit.
&
use this to say we can expand.

The only thing that saved a massive loss was grassroots and community funding being slashed to the tune of over $40million (largely due to no competitions in Queensland and NSW). If grassroots had continued the NRL would have been royally fricked! Admin costs were only reduced by $8mill (of which it cost $4.5mill in redundancies)

The fact the game was able to make a $25mill profit in 2019 should suggest that it could afford expansion regardless, presuming new TV deals stack up and the world returns to normal. Maybe they know they are going ahead but keeping it sounding like its undecided to get FTA to stump up for the extra Brisbane content?

 

[baselinepanther]

Go ask the ARLC that have signed off on deals that put games in those time slots for years. Before the Fri 6pm game was introduced there was Monday night football aired on Foxtel for years. The horrible Fri 6pm game was demanded by Foxtel and the ARLC signed off on it. Our administration doesn't care about anything other than getting maximum money out of the broadcasters.

we've never had all 3 crowd killing timeslots in the one schedule tho have we ?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

singapore can have 55 million people
theres still ten times the supporters in the sthn part of sydney & wollongong then there is there

ive seen singapores embracing new sports

the Brumbies played the japanese side there a few years ago

to about 45 people
total

Why would Singaporeans want to attend a match between a Japanese team and an Australian team?

I found this.

Sunwolves v Stormers 2018 Attendance 4,832 19 May (Sunwolves 26-23 Stormers in Hong Kong)
Sunwolves v Bulls 2018 Attendance 4,862 30 June (Sunwolves 42-37 Bulls in Singapore)

Japan | SH Rugby Blog

www.shrugbyblog.com

That's not much lower than what some Sydney clubs draw when they host games against interstate teams.

If they and Hong Kong got that to a game between two foreign teams from a meaningless competition that barely anyone watched in the countries it was played in, then imagine how many more would turn up to see a local team in the world's largest club "rugby" competition?

 

[baselinepanther]

The only thing that saved a massive loss was grassroots and community funding being slashed to the tune of over $40million (largely due to no competitions in Queensland and NSW). If grassroots had continued the NRL would have been royally fricked! Admin costs were only reduced by $8mill (of which it cost $4.5mill in redundancies)

The fact the game was able to make a $25mill profit in 2019 should suggest that it could afford expansion regardless, presuming new TV deals stack up and the world returns to normal. Maybe they know they are going ahead but keeping it sounding like its undecided to get FTA to stump up for the extra Brisbane content?

yea
its a paper profit
but they'll use it

the afl slashed costs too in all areas
but still lost 30 million & will lose the same again this year

the NRL has done way better
way better then their sthn cousins

 

[baselinepanther]

Why would Singaporeans want to attend a match between a Japanese team and an Australian team?

I found this.

Sunwolves v Stormers 2018 Attendance 4,832 19 May (Sunwolves 26-23 Stormers in Hong Kong)
Sunwolves v Bulls 2018 Attendance 4,862 30 June (Sunwolves 42-37 Bulls in Singapore)

Japan | SH Rugby Blog

www.shrugbyblog.com

That's not much lower than what some Sydney clubs draw when they host games against interstate teams.

If they and Hong Kong got that to a game between two foreign teams from a meaningless competition that barely anyone watched in the countries it was played in, then imagine how many more would turn up to see a local team in the world's largest club "rugby" competition?

and exactly who would they be watching if not australians pretending to be singaporians lol

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

we've never had all 3 crowd killing timeslots in the one schedule tho have we ?

If the broadcasters want it, the ARLC will sign it. They've always put the money and broadcasters ahead of the clubs.

 

[MugaB]

and exactly who would they be watching if not australians pretending to be singaporians lol

Wow 4k... lets open shop...

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

and exactly who would they be watching if not australians pretending to be singaporians lol

What makes you think Singaporeans wouldn't embrace a local team playing in a major international competition?

Give it enough time and it will become a winner. It won't happen overnight. Nothing does. But if you're smart like AwFuL and willing to invest in the short term then you will see long-term profits.

Look at how the RL community has ridiculed AwFuL over the last 40 years for expanding into Brisbane and Sydney.

Who's laughing now?

Why is your opinion of RL's marketability as a product so low?

 

[baselinepanther]

i don't even think domestic singaporian soccer gets crowds much bigger then 5 or 6K in that shiny new stadium
they just don't follow sport
any sport

its not in their DNA

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Wow 4k... lets open shop...

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Rugby League Tables / Attendances 1996

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

www.afltables.com

Look at the bottom four clubs and note where they're from and how few they averaged in 1996.

I doubt you were saying "kick them out, not enough fans" at the time.

LOL

 

[baselinepanther]

What makes you think Singaporeans wouldn't embrace a local team playing in a major international competition?

Give it enough time and it will become a winner. It won't happen overnight. Nothing does. But if you're smart like AwFuL and willing to invest in the short term then you will see long-term profits.

Look at how the RL community has ridiculed AwFuL over the last 40 years for expanding into Brisbane and Sydney.

Who's laughing now?

Why is your opinion of RL's marketability as a product so l

What makes you think Singaporeans wouldn't embrace a local team playing in a major international competition?

Give it enough time and it will become a winner. It won't happen overnight. Nothing does. But if you're smart like AwFuL and willing to invest in the short term then you will see long-term profits.

Look at how the RL community has ridiculed AwFuL over the last 40 years for expanding into Brisbane and Sydney.

Who's laughing now?

Why is your opinion of RL's marketability as a product so low?

you just asked why would singaporians watch the super rugby ?

isn't it a major international competition ?

 

[baselinepanther]

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Rugby League Tables / Attendances 1996

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

www.afltables.com

Look at the bottom four clubs and note where they're from and how few they averaged in 1996.

I doubt you were saying "kick them out, not enough fans" at the time.

LOL

why did you choose 1996 ? lol

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

why did you choose 1996 ? lol

Just before Super League. All four clubs kept around for NRL 1998. Crowds similar to what Singapore and Hong Kong drew to games involving foreign teams. I'd hate to see what an RL game in Sydney involving two foreign clubs would draw.

 

[baselinepanther]

Just before Super League. All four clubs kept around for NRL 1998. Crowds similar to what Singapore and Hong Kong drew to games involving foreign teams. I'd hate to see what an RL game in Sydney involving two foreign clubs would draw.

2 of them merging a few years later & one kicked out ( yes to come back a few years later )
souths & penrith averaging up to 18K a game in later years when successful

im not defending sydney crowds
in the main they're awful

but an NRL team in singapore would make the GWS giants look like a raging success

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

2 of them merging a few years later & one kicked out ( yes to come back a few years later )
souths & penrith averaging up to 18K a game in later years when successful

im not defending sydney crowds
in the main they're awful

but an NRL team in singapore would make the GWS giants look like a raging success

How do you know GWS Giants and a Singaporean team won't go on to draw higher attendances than some Sydney clubs?

Everyone said the Swans, Lions and Storm would fail. They're doing bloody well, are they not?

 

[Generalzod]

Cameron not sold on new franchise

Smith's “only concern” with potential 17th franchise

Rugby league great Cameron Smith isn’t sold on the idea of a 17th side.

www.sen.com.au

I wonder why is it because the club that will lose out will be the Storm.

 

[baselinepanther]

How do you know GWS Giants and a Singaporean team won't go on to draw higher attendances than some Sydney clubs?

Everyone said the Swans, Lions and Storm would fail. They're doing bloody well, are they not?

no they are not

the lions were lucky not to go under financially about 5 times from 2005 to 2015
& the swans lost 6.5 million last season allbeit off the back of covid but they've never hit the high mark financially lurching between tiny profits & losses for decades & thats with 60K members & some pretty decent on field success
the storm are great on the field but thats where their success ends

none of them still rate on tv to any great extent after nearly 40 years for the swans
I think most of the support for both the lions & swans are still ex pats from the south or their off spring
the impact they've had is overstated & afl spin mainly

the midgets are a plain embarrasment
already in a GF
they can't fill a phone booth & never will

the thuns aren't much better