Jack De Belin

[RedVDave]

A timely boost but I do worry almost 3 years out of the game and with the speed it's played he will struggle.

 

[slippery5]

Yeah ok he play now but he’ll always be a piece of shit for what he did to his partner and kid.

Yep, & I'm guessing there is a few more out there like him, who now, will curve their ways, & like he said, is a big learning lesson & hopefully we ( & you) can wish him well in changing going forward.
This is in all forms of life, people make monumental mistakes, but become better persons for it.

 

[Ghostrider22]

I would like to think so but I’ll bet it won’t get any publicity, the standards these people expect of others doesn’t apply to them IMO

It won’t be made public. If it is, it will be a small part in the papers, a small statement.

 

[possm]

I'm so glad with this result and in my opinion, the charges should never have been brought forward in the first place. For those saying he does not have a legal case against the NRL, just watch this space. In Fact I am of the opinion that the NRL will be rushing to privately settle the matter out side of the public eye.

The repocussions for the policeman that lied and for the DPP to continue with the charges even considering the lie, will be an interesting thing to see play out. I am sure there is more to this story to yet be told.

The NRL should at the least, immediately clear Jack to play and waver any delay. If he gets to play Friday night it will be a big boost for his loyal team mates, fans and the Club.

Welcome back Jack! You have always had my loyalty on this one.

 

[pinkmoon]

I'm so glad with this result and in my opinion, the charges should never have been brought forward in the first place. For those saying he does not have a legal case against the NRL, just watch this space. In Fact I am of the opinion that the NRL will be rushing to privately settle the matter out side of the public eye.

The repocussions for the policeman that lied and for the DPP to continue with the charges even considering the lie, will be an interesting thing to see play out. I am sure there is more to this story to yet be told.

The NRL should at the least, immediately clear Jack to play and waver any delay. If he gets to play Friday night it will be a big boost for his loyal team mates, fans and the Club.

Welcome back Jack! You have always had my loyalty on this one.

I think I can translate this post for everyone...

Im so happy because I go for the Dragons and we have one of our stars back, but I’d like to ignore the facts and insinuate that he has been found innocent because that suits me and my passion for the Dragons.

 

[Gardenia]

I think I can translate this post for everyone...

Im so happy because I go for the Dragons and we have one of our stars back, but I’d like to ignore the facts and insinuate that he has been found innocent because that suits me and my passion for the Dragons.

Oh get over it . That comment would possibly hold some weight if the matter had been resolved quickly . But we are talking about nearly 3 years that this has dragged on for both parties. It’s done the day in court is over it’s time to move on .

 

[pinkmoon]

Oh get over it . That comment would possibly hold some weight if the matter had been resolved quickly . But we are talking about nearly 3 years that this has dragged on for both parties. It’s done the day in court is over it’s time to move on .

Let’s all get some ice cream lol. You f**kwit.

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

I think I can translate this post for everyone...

Im so happy because I go for the Dragons and we have one of our stars back, but I’d like to ignore the facts and insinuate that he has been found innocent because that suits me and my passion for the Dragons.

What facts, were you in the courtroom? The facts are he’s had his day in court and has been deemed not guilty. It’s as simple as that. You don’t want to go down the path of leaving yourself open to defamation do you?

 

[Gardenia]

Let’s all get some ice cream lol. You f**kwit.

What a stupid post

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

What planet are you on?
He hasn’t been found not guilty...they just kept having hung trials so eventually the buck has to stop somewhere. Just because you go for Saints, doesn’t mean you can ignore the facts and start your own kangaroo court where you are judge and jury.

Are you questioning the decision? If so, what evidence have you been privy to which leads you to this conclusion? Just because the decision isn’t the one you wanted, doesn’t make it wrong.

 

[TruSaint]

Are you questioning the decision? If so, what evidence have you been privy to which leads you to this conclusion? Just because the decision isn’t the one you wanted, doesn’t make it wrong.

I won't speak for @pinkmoon , but I can see his point of view.

There were 2 hung juries and the Club was dragged through nearly 3 years of turmoil as a result of Jacks actions.

Now that the matter is settled, people will be divided on how they feel.

I won't stop supporting a club I have for 5 decades, however, I didn't hang on every article waiting for Jack to return.

I respect your views mate, and yes the matter has been dealt with. However, I consider his actions (whether criminal or not ), disgusting.

I know I'm in the minority and that's fine.

 

[Crush]

Geez, think I will give this thread a wide berth....

 

[LINESPEED]

Agree Borat , there should not be any impediment whatsoever by the NRL to prevent him from playing for the Dragons .

He should be registered once again and back playing footy when he is ready to take the field .

And I can’t wait to see Jack cut Radley in half

 

[TruSaint]

Enough of this thread for me.

The matter is done.

 

[mickeylane]

13. JDB
12. Mcguire
11. Sims
10. Vaughan
9. McCulloch
8. Lawrie

14. Kerr
15. Faamausili
16. Alvarro
17. Dufty

 

[mickeylane]

A timely boost but I do worry almost 3 years out of the game and with the speed it's played he will struggle.

no chance apparently he's the fittest in the team according to Hook..

he will smash them out of frustration...plus his tackles are totally legal and cut players in half!!

 

[Dragonslayer]

So, this thread deteriorated faster than expected.

Opinions are always going to vary on this matter and a real case of opinion/belief v's fact.

DeBelin, no matter what you think of him either way, will be back playing football soon enough. Is he the player he was is yet to be determined. Is he the same individual that caused this situation in the first place, is also yet to be determined. We only know that at present he is a free man, a man signed to the Dragons to play football until the end of 2023. That's it.

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

[thebigredv]

Can we now turn the attention 100% on the most pressing issue for this club. Instructing Corey Norman that he is not in our future plans. Why would you cut Dufty before someone who has sucked us dry of our salary cap for 3 years?

 

[Rob Dragon 1]

The charges were dropped (in my opinion, should never have been laid). So if they were dropped after the first trial, Jack would have been playing for the past season or so.

There have been a number of players charged, not stood down and then charges dropped. It all depends on your take on the story of both the accused and the alleged victim who was not stood down by anyone and who did not have to foot a huge legal bill.

Hmmm, "in your opinion charges should never have been laid". Are you privy to information/evidence from the charges that we are not? These types of charges are notoriously difficult to prove to the required legal standard as the issue becomes one of consent. I have just come off an eight day trial where one could of considered that "something untoward" happened but the prosecution could not produce enough evidence to overcome the required hurdle of proof. Not sure you have a legal background; in fact I am quite sure you don't; so probably best you don't comment any further as to matters to which you are not privy. The issue is relatively simple. The DPP thought they had proof to cross the required threshold; the jury did not (on two occasions) and therefore the matter will not be pursued any further.

Not sure what you are implying in your second paragraph? It all depends on your take on the "story"? It doesn't depend on our take on any story; it depends on the weight of evidence collected by the DPP.

As to the NRL enacting the "Stand-down Policy" and appearing to apply that retrospectively that probably should be challenged legally. I have not found anyone who thinks that the Stand Down principle is unjust; it is the application of it and the contractual interference issues that are questionable. You have advocated for some time that contracts should be assigned to the NRL in instances such as this and I tend to agree with your argument. There can be no doubt that the Dragons have been seriously compromised by this matter. Might still be legal sabres at 20 paces to play out on this point.

Let this be a VERY SALIENT lesson to all footballers (young and old) moving forward. We live in a vastly different world to the one I grew up as a teenager in the last 70's. The rise of social media, the issue of consent, the Me Too movement all converge to send a flashing light to all concerned. Be careful out there!

 

[Gareth67]

Geez, think I will give this thread a wide berth....

Your right about that crush . Damn glad that it’s only a pink-moon , could you imagine the fireworks if it was a red-moon tonight ?

However , JDB is now free to play ( lets leave the rights and wrongs of the decision where they should now remain - in the annals of the court records ) as the trial IS over .

Agree that it will take the man longer than we may think to get back to his peak . Another member (?) pointed that out earlier today , not so much due to his physical state , but psychological . Other teams will certainly bait him and he will need to overcome that to get back to where he once was in 2018 .

At 30 of age and if he is can beat his demons then he would still have the ability to make a big difference to the Dragons pack . I am sure that Griffin will get the best out of him and if so and we are able to not suffer any more injuries ( or suspensions ) then the Bog Red V could very well take out a few of the top guns of the competition in the latter part of the season .