Jack DeBelin

[Dragonslayer]

So, has the trial been officially put off 'till August?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

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I don’t think we can allege that Jack has done anything wrong. Not even circumstantially. If anything, we probably need to treat him as having not done anything wrong. Other points are fair though.

We can’t even say he met the alleged victim yet.

 

[Gareth67]

Contrition for your crime by admitting it always received some leniency the other aspect is commercial reality I would suspect.
Cheaper to give a discount (for early plea) than for a trial to run full course and the early release of an inmate is also cheaper and of course when the courts have a backlog the quicker you get out the sooner someone else can get in both at the court and the jail.

I see your point O.T. - however the commercial aspect is a sad indictment of the modern times in which we live , sad indeed .

 

[dangerousdave]

No.

I believe that's going to be a big sticking point as to why we are now probably waiting til August.

 

[muzby]

I believe that's going to be a big sticking point as to why we are now probably waiting til August.

No. It’s a jury trial. Read the news instead of listening to randoms on the Internet.

 

[dangerousdave]

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[muzby]

Muzby. You are a random on the internet.

Indeed I am.. As are you..

Which is why I recommend for stuff such as active trials your best source of truthful information is what is being published by the press, not rumours on social media.

1. The press are present at court and have instructions over what is true, and what can be published.

2. In the case there are suppression orders around any trials, rumours on social media can be seen as breaking those (regardless if the rumour is true or fake)

 

[dangerousdave]

Indeed I am.. As are you..

Which is why I recommend for stuff such as active trials your best source of truthful information is what is being published by the press, not rumours on social media.

1. The press are present at court and have instructions over what is true, and what can be published.

2. In the case there are suppression orders around any trials, rumours on social media can be seen as breaking those (regardless if the rumour is true or fake)

You're the only one talking about social media

 

[muzby]

You're the only one talking about social media

We’re on a form of social media........................

 

[dangerousdave]

We’re on a form of social media........................

I was unaware that anyone else had suggested that legal argument revolved around a S132 application.

In any case, I have deleted my post about what I had been told part of the legal argument is about. No need to muddy waters.

I like you as a poster a great deal but this thread is an odd choice as an outlet for petulance.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Mary in drag.

 

[George Dragon]

 

[boardlumps62]

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Is that the only info available we don't know who.
Well at least the trial is proceeding.

 

[Dragonsamy]

If he's found guilty in August, we've effectively paid close to a million dollars to a criminal to sit on the sidelines for 2 years.

And if he's innocent, his current contract expires and he'll likely sign for another club to get a fresh start.

It's a shit sandwich all round.

Agree
Also he will have sat out 2 seasons and I doubt he will ever be the player he was, even if found not guilty .

 

[possm]

This is a good post.

I’m afraid that if it’s August, it may be in the best interests of the club to let him go for the year.

It should never have come to this. The NRL is deciding to stand JDB down should have taken all responsibility for his contract, including financial responsibility. From the time JDB was stood down, his salary cap allocaton should not be fully compensated in order that a replacement be recruited until a verdict his delivered by the court.

 

[jak]

Agree
Also he will have sat out 2 seasons and I doubt he will ever be the player he was, even if found not guilty .

if he gets back on the field I would hate to be the first player he tackles

 

[possm]

I see your point O.T. - however the commercial aspect is a sad indictment of the modern times in which we live , sad indeed .

So if the NRL are standing him down for commercial reasons and for moral reasons, then they need to take full responsibility for their decision/action.

 

[Paddles]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...trial-hit-by-more-delays-20200213-p540gg.html

'Wollongong District Court judge Andrew Haesler on Thursday morning adjourned pre-trial proceedings to April 8 to allow the witness, whose identity has been suppressed, giving evidence in sensitive legal arguments to recover.'

 

[WoyD4LWoy]

So if the NRL are standing him down for commercial reasons and for moral reasons, then they need to take full responsibility for their decision/action.

I agree

 

[BLM01]

Is that the only info available we don't know who.
Well at least the trial is proceeding.

Maybe..maybe not. Is it not still up to pre-trial stage?