JAMAICA MAKE WORLD CUP 2021!

[Golden point]

I agree with @Pommy and we are not the only ones. Growth within the countries itself is actually growing the game. Using existing Australian, English and Kiwi players to wear the national shirts of other countries does not grow the game or player pool around the world.

BTW - I am fully aware of why Tonga and Samoa do this due to their low populations but they should at least play games in their home country.

The best players are in Australia or England and scouts are watching them from as young as 10 . My little brother couldn't play for the local team in under 12's because he hadn't played before they were worried he would be hurt. These junior talent pools are in the hundreds of thousands in developed economies with parents footing the bills for insurance, boots and travel- the professional leagues inject millions into developing the next stars of the future and as juniors that stand out of the hundreds of thousands are then given the best coaching and development money can buy. Some of the best kiwi talent only exist because of scholarships run in Aus .

You just have no idea how far behind these developing countries are do you.

 

[Pommy]

Could we not play super league and NRL pre-season trial matches in Jamaica? Maybe have some coaching clinics with some youngsters and try and identify potential Jamaican talent??

More chance of playing warm up games on the moon than in Jamaica. Jesus.

 

[Pommy]

The best players are in Australia or England and scouts are watching them from as young as 10 . My little brother couldn't play for the local team in under 12's because he hadn't played before they were worried he would be hurt. These junior talent pools are in the hundreds of thousands in developed economies with parents footing the bills for insurance, boots and travel- the professional leagues inject millions into developing the next stars of the future and as juniors that stand out of the hundreds of thousands are then given the best coaching and development money can buy. Some of the best kiwi talent only exist because of scholarships run in Aus .

You just have no idea how far behind these developing countries are do you.

We do we just don’t believe in the idea that we can have a World Cup with players from mostly just 3 nations.
England haven’t won a trophy in god knows how long should we just shit can English players and get a team of Aussies with English heritage to make a better spectacle on TV?

 

[Golden point]

More chance of playing warm up games on the moon than in Jamaica. Jesus.

Why? Fxck your negative.

 

[Golden point]

We do we just don’t believe in the idea that we can have a World Cup with players from mostly just 3 nations.
England haven’t won a trophy in god knows how long should we just shit can English players and get a team of Aussies with English heritage to make a better spectacle on TV?

France has some good numbers as does PNG , if Fiji get a side in the NSW cup they will also. You guys get all bent up as though the heritage of a man means nothing. There were tears from Fijians and Tongans with heritage and it ment the world back home in those countries. If you have no connection with your ancestry then that is YOUR problem not anyone else's.

 

[Pommy]

Why? Fxck your negative.

How is it going to be funded? Flying an NRL or SL team to Jamaica isn’t going to be cheap neither is it going to be profitable, do you know what the living conditions are like in the West Indies? People aren’t going to be shelling out to pay for the high ticket prices you would need to make this profitable. If it isn’t going to be profitable it isn’t going to happen.
Being realistic isn’t being negative. EPL sides play warm up games all over the world, do you know where they don’t play them, despite the sport being big there? The West Indies.
Sitting on an online forum pulling countries/cities out of your arse isn’t developing the sport.

 

[Golden point]

How is it going to be funded? Flying an NRL or SL team to Jamaica isn’t going to be cheap neither is it going to be profitable, do you know what the living conditions are like in the West Indies? People aren’t going to be shelling out to pay for the high ticket prices you would need to make this profitable. If it isn’t going to be profitable it isn’t going to happen.
Being realistic isn’t being negative. EPL sides play warm up games all over the world, do you know where they don’t play them, despite the sport being big there? The West Indies.
Sitting on an online forum pulling countries/cities out of your arse isn’t developing the sport.

How is it going to be funded? Flying an NRL or SL team to Jamaica isn’t going to be cheap neither is it going to be profitable, do you know what the living conditions are like in the West Indies? People aren’t going to be shelling out to pay for the high ticket prices you would need to make this profitable. If it isn’t going to be profitable it isn’t going to happen.
Being realistic isn’t being negative. EPL sides play warm up games all over the world, do you know where they don’t play them, despite the sport being big there? The West Indies.
Sitting on an online forum pulling countries/cities out of your arse isn’t developing the sport.

A few years ago someone injected millions into developing the wolf pack , flying the across the Atlantic every other week for two years.
But 1 game in Jamaica is impossible. I don't think it will happen but you think it's impossible. That's just a negative prick. Good luck with that.

 

[Pommy]

A few years ago someone injected millions into developing the wolf pack , flying the across the Atlantic every other week for two years.
But 1 game in Jamaica is impossible. I don't think it will happen but you think it's impossible. That's just a negative prick. Good luck with that.

Ok let’s start playing warm ups on Titan, anyone who says this is a stupid idea is a negative prick.
When in fact maybe Elon Musk will become a league fan and decide Titan needs warm up games. Hey who knows?

 

[Springs09]

I think you have it all wrong, I don’t think the USA should be using so many domestic players, you just have to look at the success of Tonga to understand why using heritage players can build more profile.

The USA don't really have big name heritage players. They used a team full of heritage players in 2013 and were roundly criticised for it.

What is the lasting legacy in Tonga once the golden generation retire if none of the team are Tongan born, none come from the local league and the team doesn't ever play there? Growth comes more sustainably through the approach that the USA, Serbia, PNG, France, Wales and Ireland are taking.

When the King of Tonga is calling up the NRL to organise rugby league games for his country I'm pretty sure the team is having some impact in Tonga. Countries like USA and France actually have room for growth, Tonga is the size of Wollongong.

Not to mention that the Tongan domestic comp went from 14 clubs to 24 clubs this year because of the World Cup. Also Hurrell, Kata, Moa and Ta'ai were born in Tonga.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Ok let’s start playing warm ups on Titan, anyone who says this is a stupid idea is a negative prick.
When in fact maybe Elon Musk will become a league fan and decide Titan needs warm up games. Hey who knows?

Elon Musk already has a team, he just needs to program them and set them loose.

 

[Pommy]

Elon Musk already has a team, he just needs to program them and set them loose.

This is great news a South African billionaire with a rugby league side would drive amazing growth and stamp out the virus which is union almost immediately.

See I’m not always negative.

 

[Golden point]

Ok let’s start playing warm ups on Titan, anyone who says this is a stupid idea is a negative prick.
When in fact maybe Elon Musk will become a league fan and decide Titan needs warm up games. Hey who knows?

That's a really negative way of saying "sure anythings possible "
Cause you're a negative prick.

 

[Pommy]

That's a really negative way of saying "sure anythings possible "
Cause you're a negative prick.

I just can’t win with you can I?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

The USA don't really have big name heritage players. They used a team full of heritage players in 2013 and were roundly criticised for it.



When the King of Tonga is calling up the NRL to organise rugby league games for his country I'm pretty sure the team is having some impact in Tonga. Countries like USA and France actually have room for growth, Tonga is the size of Wollongong.

Not to mention that the Tongan domestic comp went from 14 clubs to 24 clubs this year because of the World Cup. Also Hurrell, Kata, Moa and Ta'ai were born in Tonga.

I agree that there is impact. What I don't want, is for Tongan RL to be forgotten with the current generation move on. There needs to be a legacy - hopefully the NRL will work together with the Tongan RL to organise pathways for Tongans to get to the NRL. Once they start producing NRL starts that are not eligible for any other country, then we can say that there has been a legacy laid and I sincerely hope that happens.

The other one I would like to see is for this golden generation to play in Tonga, that will also have an impact on locals.

 

[Walter sobchak]

More chance of playing warm up games on the moon than in Jamaica. Jesus.

Why??

 

[titoelcolombiano]

The best players are in Australia or England and scouts are watching them from as young as 10 . My little brother couldn't play for the local team in under 12's because he hadn't played before they were worried he would be hurt. These junior talent pools are in the hundreds of thousands in developed economies with parents footing the bills for insurance, boots and travel- the professional leagues inject millions into developing the next stars of the future and as juniors that stand out of the hundreds of thousands are then given the best coaching and development money can buy. Some of the best kiwi talent only exist because of scholarships run in Aus .

You just have no idea how far behind these developing countries are do you.

Yes, I do realise the challenges that they have. I would like the NRL and SL to work in with the smaller nations to develop talent and provide pathways to semi-pro and pro teams. Building a pool of professional players that are only eligible for your nation is the most sustainable way to grow. Otherwise we are relying on the whim of the heritage players and the level of expatriation to developed league countries.

Heritage players are fantastic for getting a sport up and running, don't get me wrong (Lebanon are a great example). But I think as soon as a domestic scene is introduced, the Ireland USA example should be followed to reward the domestic players and to turn the national team into a more authentic team. I also don't want nations like Serbia, USA and Ireland punished for their decision to do this by getting swept aside come world cup time by teams that phone in the heritage ring-ins once every four years.

Again I will stress that Tonga and Samoa will almost always be in this position because of their tiny populations.

 

[Golden point]

I just can’t win with you can I?

More negativity.

 

[Golden point]

Yes, I do realise the challenges that they have. I would like the NRL and SL to work in with the smaller nations to develop talent and provide pathways to semi-pro and pro teams. Building a pool of professional players that are only eligible for your nation is the most sustainable way to grow. Otherwise we are relying on the whim of the heritage players and the level of expatriation to developed league countries.

Heritage players are fantastic for getting a sport up and running, don't get me wrong (Lebanon are a great example). But I think as soon as a domestic scene is introduced, the Ireland USA example should be followed to reward the domestic players and to turn the national team into a more authentic team. I also don't want nations like Serbia, USA and Ireland punished for their decision to do this by getting swept aside come world cup time by teams that phone in the heritage ring-ins once every four years.

Again I will stress that Tonga and Samoa will almost always be in this position because of their tiny populations.

I love the idea of nrl pathways and partnerships however without junior participationin the 1000's it probably won't be considered worth the journey to inspect the talent. If we can get a successful national team to inspire kids to take up the sport we might get the numbers up and get some momentum to build on. This platform is on show now in Tonga with junior partisapation double since the world cup and more recently Fijian success saw Filter and John's bring a young Fijian back to Aus.

All this started with competitive National team which of course relied upon heritage players.

Also willing to note that awarding people a national jumper based on their location cheapens the jumper and lowers it's profile and desirability .
Receiving the opportunity to represent your country should always always mean " you are the very best we have available to represent us" not " you "have a more authentic accent "

 

[Pommy]

Why??

Who is going to pay for it? What’s the angle for the clubs?

I’m not saying it wouldn’t be good for RL. But the clubs are only concerned about themselves what do they get from a game in jamaica?
It expensive and ticket sales are unlikely to pay off the expense. The number of fans is small but growing which doesn’t give sponsors a great deal of exposure. What’s the angle?

 

[Walter sobchak]

Who is going to pay for it? What’s the angle for the clubs?

I’m not saying it wouldn’t be good for RL. But the clubs are only concerned about themselves what do they get from a game in jamaica?
It expensive and ticket sales are unlikely to pay off the expense. The number of fans is small but growing which doesn’t give sponsors a great deal of exposure. What’s the angle?

If teams are already jetting off abroad for warm weather training like Leeds and Salford to Florida in the past and other teams to South Africa. Why not Jamaica??

Why not play a trial match while already there?