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Jarryd Hayne accused of rape

veggiepatch1959

veggiepatch1959

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I read the court documents posted by Spocky several days before Christmas and was concerned about paragraphs 15 and 17 under "General Allegations".

In Para. 15, it was stated that the plaintiff "noticed a large pool of blood on the sheets next to her as well as blood on her vagina".

How large was the pool of blood? On face value upon reading this, one would think that she bled out a litre or so. However, very heavy bleeding upon losing one's virginity is extremely rare and 63% of women do not experience bleeding at all (Dr Sara Patterson, British Medical Journal, 1998).

Ever thought that the plaintiff may have commenced her menstural cycle during or after this alleged sexual act?

In Para. 17, it was stated that the plaintiff "took the defendant's undergarment as proof and in case there was need for testing".

Testing for what? If it was Hayne's undergarment, did he leave skidmarks as a way of determining a DNA match?

Seriously, the plaintiff would been better off taking the "blood soaked" sheet as evidence.

I won't go anywhere near the final section named "Prayer For Relief". FMD.
 
ed-grimley

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veggiepatch1959 said:
I read the court documents posted by Spocky several days before Christmas and was concerned about paragraphs 15 and 17 under "General Allegations".

In Para. 15, it was stated that the plaintiff "noticed a large pool of blood on the sheets next to her as well as blood on her vagina".

How large was the pool of blood? On face value upon reading this, one would think that she bled out a litre or so. However, very heavy bleeding upon losing one's virginity is extremely rare and 63% of women do not experience bleeding at all (Dr Sara Patterson, British Medical Journal, 1998).

Ever thought that the plaintiff may have commenced her menstural cycle during or after this alleged sexual act?

In Para. 17, it was stated that the plaintiff "took the defendant's undergarment as proof and in case there was need for testing".

Testing for what? If it was Hayne's undergarment, did he leave skidmarks as a way of determining a DNA match?

Seriously, the plaintiff would been better off taking the "blood soaked" sheet as evidence.

I won't go anywhere near the final section named "Prayer For Relief". FMD.
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I'm assuming you'll want access to the sheets at some time.
 
T-Boon

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veggiepatch1959 said:
Testing for what? If it was Hayne's undergarment, did he leave skidmarks as a way of determining a DNA match?
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She should have taken a selfie with the bloody sheets. What 25 year old girl would not take a selfie with the sheets for future evidence and/or Facebook.
 
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veggiepatch1959

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T-Boon said:
She should have taken a selfie with the bloody sheets. What 25 year old girl would not take a selfie with the sheets for future evidence and/or Facebook.
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Yes.

With that hideous duck face look with the accompanying quote " look what happened after I got f**ked like a stuffed pig...."
 
veggiepatch1959

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ed-grimley said:
I'm assuming you'll want access to the sheets at some time.
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Of course!

"This your honour, is Exhibit A. If you refer to the accompanying forensic report, it was determined that the blood on said sheet is not of human origin, but that from a porcine species".
 
El Diablo

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veggiepatch1959 said:
Testing for what? If it was Hayne's undergarment, did he leave skidmarks as a way of determining a DNA match?
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Monica Lewinsky kept her dress that had Bill Clinton's sprog on it but there was never any sexual assault allegations so i don't know what this bimbo thinks Hayne's undies will prove apart from the fact they're his undies

i wonder how often she steals undies?
 
Canard

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Everyone seems to be conflating the reasons there was no criminal case as a defence of the civil case?

That's not how it works though, is it?
 
bileduct

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Lambretta said:
Thank you

What the RAINN study is showing is that of every 1,000 cases discussed on the sex abuse hotline only 6 people will be incarcerated.
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Could you please provide a citation for this. The RAINN website specifically says:

Understanding RAINN’s statistics

Sexual violence is notoriously difficult to measure, and there is no single source of data that provides a complete picture of the crime. On RAINN’s website, we have tried to select the most reliable source of statistics for each topic. The primary data source we use is the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), which is an annual study conducted by the Justice Department. To conduct NCVS, researchers interview tens of thousands of Americans each year to learn about crimes that they’ve experienced. Based on those interviews, the study provides estimates of the total number of crimes, including those that were not reported to police. While NCVS has a number of limitations (most importantly, children under age 12 are not included), overall, it is the most reliable source of crime statistics in the U.S.

So unless I am mistaken it would appear that RAINN actually uses studies that survey random people and rely on self-reporting.


Now lets make an assumption...
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No, let's not.

The fact is that the 2-8% number thrown around is entirely misleading and really has no application when it comes to accusations that are deemed to be unfounded or unproven (both by police during the investigative stage and in the courtroom).

And it certainly has no bearing whatsoever when it comes to accusations leveled on social media, such as what has been happening with the #metoo campaign.
 
bileduct

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Lambretta said:
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...mpus-sexual-assault-title-ix-overreach-curbed

It seems the Title IX tribunals have run out of friends

Secretary DeVos is looking at their legality and there seems to be a genuine push to curb their powers or wind them up completely

I agree that they do seem to be a disturbing development where due process and the right to the presumption of innocence are ignored. This is not a path I would like to see any court go down
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https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/...e-retried-in-mandi-gray-sex-assault-case.html

Where do you think judges like this get the information to make these kinds of decisions?

The same kinds of junk neuroscience "experts" that advise people like the UK Metro Police sex crimes investigators.

As for your other comment about how hard it is to prove rape and what should be done about that, perhaps the answer for a lot of these cases might be in addressing this nation's drinking culture.
 
T-Boon

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Canard said:
Everyone seems to be conflating the reasons there was no criminal case as a defence of the civil case?

That's not how it works though, is it?
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Something like 95% of these civil rape claims settle due to the costs of it all. Thats because even if the defendant wins, he isn't getting his legal fees back. So if the plaintiff will settle for less than the lawyers fees ($200k?) it makes total sense.
Hayne should talk to the NRL about these things and say hey if you are going to freak out and worry about what it means to the outrage crowd when I settle it (for "hush money") then you should consider letting Parra pay my legal fees to go to trial.
 
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