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Jarryd Hayne accused of rape

Lambretta

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I don't need to do that because the hole in your argument is immediately obvious. Not all claims of rape are reported to police. In fact, as your own statistics demonstrate, the vast majority of rape allegations are unreported - to police. Meaning the vast majority of these rape allegations are not investigated - by police. Your qualifier for a false rape accusation is one that has been investigated by police who have then decided it is in the public interest to lay charges for that false accusation (which isn't always the case even when a provably false accusation has been made). On the other hand you treat all unreported allegations - again, the vast majority - as "ACTUAL RAPES".

Who decided they were, in fact, ACTUAL RAPES, eh? RAINN?

I will try and quote in future

So your point is that the vast majority of rape cases which go unreported must be false claims
Women are shit merkins you hate them

I can't help you
 

T-Boon

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Do you want to trawl the MRA sites to find the other case to help back up f**kwits claim that millions of men get falsely accused?

Anyone who just accepts research results and stats by either mens groups OR feminist groups are just being lazy and easily influenced. Question everything when it comes to interest groups. Neither group is even supposed to do impartial balanced work. They are like Greenpeace - fighting tooth and nail for their cause. It is to be admired but not trusted.
 

Lambretta

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The force defines misandry hate crime as: "Incidents against men that are motivated by an attitude of a woman towards a man and includes behaviour targeted towards a man by women simply because they are a man."

I won't be holding my breath for this law to come into effect. So much for equality!

I must have mis-read that article

Ring up the Police and ask them to investigate the theft of something
They'll do pretty much zero

I'll be amazed thrice over if anyone is charged with "saying something horrid" to someone in a bar

The courts would never get anything done
That will last 5 minutes or be another one of those 75,000,000 laws we have that the Police can't enforce because they're f**king stupid

Like being hung for stalking a goose on a Wednesday unless you're dressed in three potato sacks
 

OldPanther

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I must have mis-read that article

Ring up the Police and ask them to investigate the theft of something
They'll do pretty much zero

I'll be amazed thrice over if anyone is charged with "saying something horrid" to someone in a bar

The courts would never get anything done
That will last 5 minutes or be another one of those 75,000,000 laws we have that the Police can't enforce because they're f**king stupid

Like being hung for stalking a goose on a Wednesday unless you're dressed in three potato sacks

People in the UK are being charged for offensive posts on social media. It's not a huge stretch.
 

bileduct

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I will try and quote in future

So your point is that the vast majority of rape cases which go unreported must be false claims
Women are shit merkins you hate them

I can't help you
I never said that at all. It's something that's kinda impossible to produce reliable statistics for because it largely relies on self-reporting which is not always honest. You're the one who produced statistics claiming that all unreported allegations of rapes were ACTUAL RAPES. I never said the contrary because that would be using the same false logic as you did.

But your statistics conveniently ignore the allegations made on social media, to the traditional media, in local communities, in social groups and left to the court of public opinion. It's kinda weird how it's left up to me to decide who to believe, but it's now a public shaming offence to doubt the accuser - which seems to be Cogburn's objection to the idiot that sperged out at him.

By the way, those supposed two false charges that result in the accused appearing in the courtroom?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ll-ongoing-cases-after-second-trial-collapses

Gee, two in one week. Maybe the Metro will review it's use of advisors with degrees in gender studies.
 

Lambretta

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Jesus Lambretta is triggered AF.
Who shat in his cereal this morning?

Actually, someone shitting in my cereal would piss me off less than people who claim false rape accusations are a bigger problem than male attitudes towards rape

It's deflection at it's worse and it does nothing to solve the issue

Get thy own house in order as Shakespeare probably said
 

OldPanther

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Actually, someone shitting in my cereal would piss me off less than people who claim false rape accusations are a bigger problem than male attitudes towards rape

It's deflection at it's worse and it does nothing to solve the issue

Get thy own house in order as Shakespeare probably said

I didn't do either so how about apologising for the I hate women and blacks comment.
 

bileduct

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Actually, someone shitting in my cereal would piss me off less than people who claim false rape accusations are a bigger problem than male attitudes towards rape
So how does one measure this exactly?

I would suggest that the overwhelmingly vast majority of people here would find ACTUAL RAPE abhorrent.
 

M2D2

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Actually, someone shitting in my cereal would piss me off less than people who claim false rape accusations are a bigger problem than male attitudes towards rape

It's deflection at it's worse and it does nothing to solve the issue

Get thy own house in order as Shakespeare probably said
Bigger. No. Its not deflection either (by most) its bringing up the fact you cant go to the other extreme and expect guilt from every claim because people lie.
But the fact that you posted long criticized statistics to defend your piece, yelled at someone who had something traumatic happen to him (see langlands thread) for hating women because of the website bias you didnt like and claim anyone who disagrees with your agenda must be a woman hating scum.
You are just the opposite end of the spectrum of someone is a woman hating scum.
 

OldPanther

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Bigger. No. Its not deflection either (by most) its bringing up the fact you cant go to the other extreme and expect guilt from every claim because people lie.
But the fact that you posted long criticized statistics to defend your piece, yelled at someone who had something traumatic happen to him (see langlands thread) for hating women because of the website bias you didnt like and claim anyone who disagrees with your agenda must be a woman hating scum.
You are just the opposite end of the spectrum of someone is a woman hating scum.

Exactly. Isn't it best we end up somewhere in between the two extremes?
 

TheFrog

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Actually, someone shitting in my cereal would piss me off less than people who claim false rape accusations are a bigger problem than male attitudes towards rape

It's deflection at it's worse and it does nothing to solve the issue

Get thy own house in order as Shakespeare probably said
Actually it was the Lord through the prophet Isaiah (2 Kings 20, 2.)
 

veggiepatch1959

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I just have one question.

How can an unreported rape be included in any statistics?

It can only verified by two or more people who witnessed the alleged incident.

You can't verify a rape when only one person was present which means it was fabricated in order to hurt another.
 

OldPanther

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I just have one question.

How can an unreported rape be included in any statistics?

It can only verified by two or more people who witnessed the alleged incident.

You can't verify a rape when only one person was present which means it was fabricated in order to hurt another.

It relies on self reporting in surveys is my guess.
 

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