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Jarryd Hayne - Make him an Eel for Life

Bandwagon

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So then we're unlikely to add player number 30 to the squad in the middle of November then are we

FFS, that was the whole point of the post you quoted earlier, why the f**k not?

We could sign Hayne

Or maybe sign some other merkin who's better?

Or maybe not.
 

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FFS, that was the whole point of the post you quoted earlier, why the f**k not?

We could sign Hayne

Or maybe sign some other merkin who's better?

Or maybe not.

Because unless we offload one of the overpaid underperforming players that play in the same positions, then we're wasting a squad place and cap space on the wrong positions by signing him now.

If we convince some dumb, stupid and desperate club to take one of these overpaid and underperforming players off our hands then the situation changes. But which club is that dumb, stupid and desperate?
 

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Because unless we offload one of the overpaid underperforming players that play in the same positions, then we're wasting a squad place and cap space on the wrong positions by signing him now.

If we convince some dumb, stupid and desperate club to take one of these overpaid and underperforming players off our hands then the situation changes. But which club is that dumb, stupid and desperate?
I cant see anyone taking Mennings even for free. Put a fork in him. That dude is done. Taka probably the same.
I reckon the others would be worth a punt particularly if we throw some cash at them.
Its not a coincidence so many good players were shite last year.
Something or someone happened. Maybe it was a combination. A perfect Storm maybe.
How would Moses or Norman or French go under Bellamy?
 

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I cant see anyone taking Mennings even for free. Put a fork in him. That dude is done. Taka probably the same.
I reckon the others would be worth a punt particularly if we throw some cash at them.
Its not a coincidence so many good players were shite last year.
Something or someone happened. Maybe it was a combination. A perfect Storm maybe.
How would Moses or Norman or French go under Bellamy?

I think the only player who we want to offload who is on a low enough salary that another club would be interested in would probably be French. But I'm only saying that because I doubt he's on that much. I think the rest are all on stupid money, and this is probably demonstrated that we're apparently close to the cap limit with a petty average roster.
 

Happy MEel

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Because unless we offload one of the overpaid underperforming players that play in the same positions, then we're wasting a squad place and cap space on the wrong positions by signing him now.

If we convince some dumb, stupid and desperate club to take one of these overpaid and underperforming players off our hands then the situation changes. But which club is that dumb, stupid and desperate?
We don’t have an adequate fullback at the moment without weakening another position, so I’d say we’d be spending the cap space pretty wisely.

What benefit does it give us to hold that spot in the roster? Wouldn’t you get the most benefit from that spot by having them available all preseason and for selection from round 1?
 

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We don’t have an adequate fullback at the moment without weakening another position, so I’d say we’d be spending the cap space pretty wisely.

What benefit does it give us to hold that spot in the roster? Wouldn’t you get the most benefit from that spot by having them available all preseason and for selection from round 1?

At the moment

1. French
2. Ferguson
3. Jennings
4. Gutherson
5. Jennings

Others not even Top 17
Takairang
Hoffman

Combined are taking up too much of the back 5 (The Plane positions) salary cap.

At least one, potentially two, have to go before we can consider The Plane landing at Parra...
 

Happy MEel

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At the moment

1. French
2. Ferguson
3. Jennings
4. Gutherson
5. Jennings

Others not even Top 17
Takairang
Hoffman

Combined are taking up too much of the back 5 (The Plane positions) salary cap.

At least one, potentially two, have to go before we can consider The Plane landing at Parra...
That’s where we disagree. French isn’t a first grade quality fullback in my opinion.
 

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That’s where we disagree. French isn’t a first grade quality fullback in my opinion.

Agreed. But his on Top 13 money. I'd suggest all 7 of those listed above are all on starting money (George J probably at the lower end outside of that).

If we have all those blokes and The Plane that's potentially 7 players on Top 13 money, for only 5 positions. It's a dumb use of the cap.

We need 5 players on Top 13 money for those 5 positions, not 7.
 

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So then we're unlikely to add player number 30 to the squad in the middle of November then are we
You are obsessed with this 30 thing

If we offload a decent player, eg mennings, then we are gonna be paying a chunk of his salary this season - which will consume a top 30 slot ... so even offloading someone now wont make the roster spot

I dunno we could push a guy like davey out of our squad yo try and keep a spot open???
 

Chipmunk

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You are obsessed with this 30 thing

If we offload a decent player, eg mennings, then we are gonna be paying a chunk of his salary this season - which will consume a top 30 slot ... so even offloading someone now wont make the roster spot

I dunno we could push a guy like davey out of our squad yo try and keep a spot open???

If I'm not mistaken this rule about paying players not playing for you but they still take up a spot in your squad is no longer part of the squad setup.

Yes, the money you pay them is included in your cap, but from now I don't believe they will remain in your squad.

PS - This article indicates the rule change from paragragh 6 onwards

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/10/nrl-top-30-squads-to-be-published-to-increase-transparency/
 
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You are obsessed with this 30 thing

If we offload a decent player, eg mennings, then we are gonna be paying a chunk of his salary this season - which will consume a top 30 slot ... so even offloading someone now wont make the roster spot

I dunno we could push a guy like davey out of our squad yo try and keep a spot open???

You where too when fell out of my top 30
 

strider

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If I'm not mistaken this rule about paying players not playing for you but they still take up a spot in your squad is no longer part of the squad setup.

Yes, the money you pay them is included in your cap, but from now I don't believe they will remain in your squad.

PS - This article indicates the rule change from paragragh 6 onwards

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/10/nrl-top-30-squads-to-be-published-to-increase-transparency/
cool .... i didn't realise they had changed that
 

Happy MEel

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Agreed. But his on Top 13 money. I'd suggest all 7 of those listed above are all on starting money (George J probably at the lower end outside of that).

If we have all those blokes and The Plane that's potentially 7 players on Top 13 money, for only 5 positions. It's a dumb use of the cap.

We need 5 players on Top 13 money for those 5 positions, not 7.
I hear what you’re saying but assuming Mahoney takes the other remaining spot, where would you rather spend that cap space within the roster? As a spine position, you need quality at fullback.
 

Happy MEel

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You are obsessed with this 30 thing

If we offload a decent player, eg mennings, then we are gonna be paying a chunk of his salary this season - which will consume a top 30 slot ... so even offloading someone now wont make the roster spot

I dunno we could push a guy like davey out of our squad yo try and keep a spot open???
I was thinking the same thing. He’d be on minimum so as long as the player recruited is more than Davey’s salary that would push him out of the top 30 wouldn’t it?
 

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