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News Jarryd Hayne sexual assault trials

Harry O

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But if the women meets you and no longer wants it she can withdraw consent which seems to have happened in Haynes case.
This wasn't a meeting like in a Cafe,, she invited him to her place two different things. I reckon the reason she was pissed off was that when the deed was over and the taxi arrived she went ballistic ...that's where the problem started the taxi..
 

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In this case from that one conversation she made with Hayne (below)

and if I was the judge and seen that I would've thrown the matter out to Mars...
Jesus Christ dude.

Women, people even (of which women are a subset believe it or not) can withdraw consent at any time. In your defence, you're not the only one struggling with this, just the most obvious.
 
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Marshall Stalin - seriously what the f**k? convicted on hearsay? there is seriously a lot of clueless shit here. The case does not just f**king revolve around the taxi beeping the horn.

f**k - do you even know what hearsay is? It clearly appears you do not as you have used it in the completely wrong context and it would in nearly all cases be inadmissable.

Your whole post is a complete fail.
clueless post - notice the ( - ) between Convicted on hearsay - she said he said. :rolleyes:
 
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This is wrong in so many areas... seriously it pisses me off how wrong this is no matter which side you may have an opinion of.

The main part of why this is wrong and actually why I am so pissed off at this dumb shit (not usually this angry but this stuff really bugs me when people just have no idea about serious issues). This part particularly is dumb:

"It's a classic he said she said case - she saying no and hayne saying she never said that which is the crux of the case - consent... "

This is seriously just f**ked up. You're referring to consent. So where is the consent???????????????????????????????

Too many people are watching too many movies/tv shows and reading media reports which actually are not doing a very good job at reporting what the main legal issues are. Actually is very frustrating because it is important that the greater public understand these cases to ensure that these crimes are prevented from happening in the future or at the very least reduced.
You are painting yourself into a corner with your layman interpretation of the law- A Bush Lawyer view at most

So everyone you have ever had intimate activities with you have always sought their consent (even your partners ) and never once maybe took some advantage of the other person being a bit tipsy/flirtatious when they may not have wanted to go that far.

If you haven't obtained consent at all times then you are no better than Jarryd Hayne is then in your mind are you as only they would know if they had consented.

The landscape has certainly changed in the litigation world we now live in.

She said He said is very appropriate as there were no witnesses and that Taxi and beeping of the horn was a major factor in this case if you actually read the case notes.

Also ask yourself why would someone delete 22 text messages before going to the Police- If Hayne had done this you would be crucifying him for it.

Social media and other 24/7 media outlets have also changed the legal landscape in relation to hearsay

You would never be able to say that none of the jurors across the three trials had no knowledge of the case and never viewed news reports and especially social media sites where folk with supposedly first knowledge "knew" what had occurred or heard it from someone else with this supposedly first hand knowledge.

You would be hard pressed convincing anyone that jurors are not influenced by what they see/hear and read about in trials they have been empanelled on as a Juror in the 24/7 news/social media cycle we live under.
 
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In Soviet Russia, the cheka rapes you...

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Harry O

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Jesus Christ dude.

Women, people even (of which women are a subset believe it or not) can withdraw consent at any time. In your defence, you're not the only one struggling with this, just the most obvious.
What if a bloke did the same thing? Said no stop? I bet the courts would laugh at us ay?
 

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If I got a message like that and she invited me to her place,what does that mean? It means sex end of story. I wasn't born yesterday. I Hope women don't lead us on like that,it's unfair for men..
Damn son, she has the right to say no at any point. Even during. Blue balls<Rape.

In my experience messages like that usually end up where you want them to with everyone happy. The caveat is acting like a knob at any point between receiving said message and dropping a batch is a good chance of her having a change of heart. Taxi idling out the front, not a great idea. Any wonder she decided to give it a miss.

I hope you dont go out unattended.
 

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What if a bloke did the same thing? Said no stop? I bet the courts would laugh at us ay?
A lot of blokes think her having a taxi waiting is a positive. But if the above happened, then yeah, it's sexual assault.
 

Harry O

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A lot of blokes think her having a taxi waiting is a positive. But if the above happened, then yeah, it's sexual assault.
But @ the end of the day the courts won't take us seriously, they'll think it's a joke. Plus I've met Jarryd Hayne and he is a nice bloke...probably the biggest mistake his done was going to her place when she invited him,if a chick invited you to her place and said those words what would you think that is?
 

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What if a bloke did the same thing? Said no stop? I bet the courts would laugh at us ay?
Here's a better and actually relevant question.

If a chick invited you over to f**k and then changed her mind and said no during the act, would you think its okay to keep going?
 

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But @ the end of the day the courts won't take us seriously, they'll think it's a joke. Plus I've met Jarryd Hayne and he is a nice bloke...probably the biggest mistake his done was going to her place when she invited him,if a chick invited you to her place and said those words what would you think that is?
You got a Hayne NFL jersey like @fourplay too mate?
 

Mr. Shaman

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But @ the end of the day the courts won't take us seriously, they'll think it's a joke. Plus I've met Jarryd Hayne and he is a nice bloke...probably the biggest mistake his done was going to her place when she invited him,if a chick invited you to her place and said those words what would you think that is?
I’ve met Hayne too, massive rape vibes.
 

Harry O

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Here's a better and actually relevant question.

If a chick invited you over to f**k and then changed her mind and said no during the act, would you think its okay to keep going?
I would stop.....plus how do we all know what exactly happened on that day? People can make up storys aswell.....and why did she delete 22 text messages before she went to the cops?

I bet now she will be suing him after this court case? that's coming next to theatre near you...
 

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