Jason Ryles - Head coach of Parramatta from 2025

[Pazza]

We were top four when we were caught cheating the cap.

NRL head of integrity Nick Weeks said the club is $570,000 over the 2016 salary cap and has paid players more than $3 million over the salary cap since 2011.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/parramatta-administration-now-a-laughing-stock-alongside-worlds-dumbest-cheats/news-story/efcb51eabc50b40e78ec270d668d3a70

 

[Gronk]

They got their first taste of the POs with blaize. And I tell yah it would have been sour. It's only going to get more sour as the circus continues over text three offseasons

Blaize was off contract Nov 2023. He and his manager elected to wait until he had played FG and shop around. Let his game do the talking etc.

The fact that he had a fall back option if he had no offers or got injured really had zero bearing on him leaving. It was more about us vying for the spoon and a too-good-to-be-true offer from the 3 peat premiers.

The option thing is being used as a baseball bat by some, however in his case, it means zip.

If I am reading this wrong, then let me know.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Blaize was off contract Nov 2023. He and his manager elected to wait until he had played FG and shop around. Let his game do the talking etc.

The fact that he had a fall back option if he had no offers or got injured really had zero bearing on him leaving. It was more about us vying for the spoon and a too-good-to-be-true offer from the 3 peat premiers.

The option thing is being used as a baseball bat by some, however in his case, it means zip.

If I am reading this wrong, then let me know.

I wonder if the alternatives to a PO are more diverse than just "no contract".

Of course you'd know that to be true. It is facile to suggest the only alternative to a PO is the player being off contract. Ridiculous!

Club management may see things in similar light, which may be why they have indicated they will head in other directions in the future?

It's OK to say we (the club) got it wrong. It is the only way to improve. Failure to self-assess will inevitably result in making the same mistakes all over again.

That is a double edged sword though, and personally I find it worth reflecting on from my own point of view. I can't personally influence the clubs contracting methodology, but what can I do?

 

[TheRam]

What about Talagi reminds you of Hayne, may I ask?

Talagi clearly has talent, but Hayne played First Grade at 18, and Origin at 19.

Hayne was faster, stronger, more skilful...

I think Talagi is a real prospect, but I don't see the comparisons.

I don't see it at all. The guy can't even catch a freakin ball ffs! And don't start me on his shirt grabbing defence.

Talagi needs a great team to look good and is why he is spearing off to the Panthers. Hayne was the great team.

 

[Gronk]

I wonder if the alternatives to a PO are more diverse than just "no contract".

Of course you'd know that to be true. It is facile to suggest the only alternative to a PO is the player being off contract. Ridiculous!

I'm confused. How could have the club avoided the outcome of Blaize signing for Penrith and how did the player having a PO have a significant (or any) impact on this ?

A fixed term contract has an option to leave.
A fixed term contract with a PO has an option to leave and an option to stay.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I'm confused. How could have the club avoided the outcome of Blaize signing for Penrith and how did the player having a PO have a significant (or any) impact on this ?

Well i wouldn't given him the Player option in the first place for 2025.

If he left at end of 2024 because he didn't have or agree to a contract in 2025 then so be it just like Ethan Sanders.

If that was the demand from a player who yet to play a FG game and wanted an Option in his contract already when this was signed what 18 months. It would have been pretty clear he wasn't invested in the club.

Instead we look like even more royally stupid giving him the leverage and power anyway.

 

[Gronk]

Well i wouldn't given him the Player option in the first place for 2025.

If he left at end of 2024 because he didn't have or agree to a contract in 2025 then so be it just like Ethan Sanders.

If that was the demand from a player who yet to play a FG game and wanted an Option in his contract already when this was signed what 18 months. It would have been pretty clear he wasn't invested in the club.

Instead we look like even more royally stupid giving him the leverage and power anyway.

That makes no sense.

A fixed term contract has an option to leave.
A fixed term contract with a PO has an option to leave and an option to stay.

What leverage and power did he have ?

 

[TheRam]

Making all the right moves so far. Just need to send MON packing and get someone in that can do a better job recruiting.

Maybe he would like to bring in Mike Rush from St Helens.

 

[yy_cheng]

Well i wouldn't given him the Player option in the first place for 2025.

If he left at end of 2024 because he didn't have or agree to a contract in 2025 then so be it just like Ethan Sanders.

If that was the demand from a player who yet to play a FG game and wanted an Option in his contract already when this was signed what 18 months. It would have been pretty clear he wasn't invested in the club.

Instead we look like even more royally stupid giving him the leverage and power anyway.

The PO is to get him to stay prior to 2025. Not for 2025.

If you had offered him a contract say in 2022 that ended in 2024, he might not have stayed back then and went somewhere else.

The PO is to say look, if you stay for 20222-2024 you get to choose for 2025. It's not for 2025 it is like a bonus or sweetener.

If we really wanted him, we should've made him a better offer in 2023 or early 2024.

So Gronkie is right in my mind.

Mutual Options aren't too bad for mine as you can get that player cheap and stick him in reggies as backup. But we wanted that player during his prime.

 

[EelEtric]

The PO is to get him to stay prior to 2025. Not for 2025.

If you had offered him a contract say in 2022 that ended in 2024, he might not have stayed back then and went somewhere else.

The PO is to say look, if you stay for 20222-2024 you get to choose for 2025. It's not for 2025 it is like a bonus or sweetener.

If we really wanted him, we should've made him a better offer in 2023 or early 2024.

So Gronkie is right in my mind.

Mutual Options aren't too bad for mine as you can get that player cheap and stick him in reggies as backup. But we wanted that player during his prime.

We made him an offer in November 2023 for 2025/26 for what I was told was close to $400k... before he played FG.

 

[The Predictor]

I know what you are saying, but is that reality ?

Your version: Something something Brad Arthur.

More likely: Brown is offered a higher paid and far more challenging and rewarding role at the eels.

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[The Predictor]

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the fact he had the option was the risk. You gave a 18 year old kid all the power and his manager took it.

im telling yah now, you wont see anymore of these POs coming out of the club. And if we do i then i am completely wrong.

They were obviously comfortable thinking he would stay…..only parramatta