News JDB Trial

[Last Week]

That is what makes it a waste of time, money and resources. If a matter is going to jump the line and hold everybody elses day in court up then we should be allowed to know the jury count. If its 10-2 then I demand they drop it.

Lol, you demand it do you?

 

[Last Week]

I wouldn't think that would be in her best interest. The Jury need to hear her, there at the trial. Their case is very reliant on the weight of her evidence and the strength of the witness which won't come across well on tape.

No cross examination by the prosecution and it already appears they have plugged holes in her story and proven she lied to the court., which I would think the defence would want another shot at.

The Just should have been given instructions that they are not there to judge a persons innocence, but their guilt beyond reasonable doubt. And if they can't be sure beyond reasonable doubt of their guilt, they must return a not guilty verdict.

For mine, the Jury in this case has sat on the fence not wanting to put in a verdict and this all parties have to go through another 12 months.

I would be shocked if the defence couldn't cross examine and the prosecution being able to re-examine.

There would be limits surely, but not entirely denied.

 

[SBD82]

The Just should have been given instructions that they are not there to judge a persons innocence, but their guilt beyond reasonable doubt. And if they can't be sure beyond reasonable doubt of their guilt, they must return a not guilty verdict.

For mine, the Jury in this case has sat on the fence not wanting to put in a verdict and this all parties have to go through another 12 months.

I don’t think it’s right to think of the jury as one entity.

Try putting 12 random people in a room and getting them to agree on the definition of “reasonable”.

These are 12 unique people that you’re dealing with. For some of the jurors, the threshold was obviously reached, for others it wasn’t.

I’d rather have a hung jury and a retrial than have one or two strong personalities influence the outcome for an incorrect decision.

 

[T-Boon]

Lol, you demand it do you?

what did I just say?

 

[Knight76]

I would be shocked if the defence couldn't cross examine and the prosecution being able to re-examine.

There would be limits surely, but not entirely denied.

If the lass needs to be in court and be cross examined still etc, then I don't see any need to replay her testimony via video then.

 

[Knight76]

I don’t think it’s right to think of the jury as one entity.

Try putting 12 random people in a room and getting them to agree on the definition of “reasonable”.

These are 12 unique people that you’re dealing with. For some of the jurors, the threshold was obviously reached, for others it wasn’t.

I’d rather have a hung jury and a retrial than have one or two strong personalities influence the outcome for an incorrect decision.

And when the next Jury can't decide?

I honestly have no idea what occurs next and what the limitations are on retrials.

 

[Saxon]

No it isn't "incel rubbish". The second article I pointed to was written by a woman, FFS.

Are you calling her an incel?

There will always be exceptions to the rule, but it doesn't mean the rule doesn't exist.

Believe what you want. I don't care. I really don't. You live in a fantasy world.

I've seen too many cases of women saying what I just told you and men experiencing what I just told you to know it is true.

God, here we go.

You can cherry pick the internet to "prove" any point of view that you like. Give me twenty minutes and I can provide convincing articles to support vaccines cause autism, humans are not contributing to climate change, the sun orbits the earth (I've seen some mathematical proofs for that one that are REALLY hard to disprove) and that the moon landing was fake. You found a woman who agrees with your point of view.

Many years of experience has shown me that it's not that girls like bad boys, they like men with confidence and sometimes they find it hard to tell the difference.

I'm not saying you are an incel wierdo, but you certainly come across as one.

 

[SBD82]

You do realise that young women are not attracted to respectful men who aren't dangerous, yeah?

They like the rebellious bad boy who exudes confidence and has masculine traits such as above average height, strongly built frame, aggressive demeanor and can beat the shit out of anyone.

Studies have been done that show happy men who smile are less attractive to women than angry men who look aggressive.

http://bit.ly/sQz1i4

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/head-games/201305/the-allure-aggressive-men

Jordan Peterson said in a video that women hate safe men.

Some women like bad boys. Some like nice guys. Some want a traditional relationship, some want to f**k anything that moves. Life in a free country lets people express themselves in a plethora of ways. And that’s great imo.

But if you’re not having any luck finding a lover who you’re compatible with, my advice would be that the first thing you should do, and I can’t stress this enough, is stop listening to Jordan f**king Peterson.

 

[Valheru]

If that were the case, what's the purpose of re-trials?

Exactly.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

This is an arsehole comment.

Sadly, that's the way @mongoose acts all the time.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

God, here we go.

You can cherry pick the internet to "prove" any point of view that you like. Give me twenty minutes and I can provide convincing articles to support vaccines cause autism, humans are not contributing to climate change, the sun orbits the earth (I've seen some mathematical proofs for that one that are REALLY hard to disprove) and that the moon landing was fake. You found a woman who agrees with your point of view.

Many years of experience has shown me that it's not that girls like bad boys, they like men with confidence and sometimes they find it hard to tell the difference.

I'm not saying you are an incel wierdo, but you certainly come across as one.

It's an article from a reputable psychologist who specialises in relationships. It uses data from a German study to back up her point. If you don't agree with it then fine, let's just agree to disagree.

 

[T-Boon]

We are a really divided group....
I think all the men on here who are real feminist types have some horrible skeletons in their closet they are rightly ashamed of and want to feel better about it by throwing the whole gender under the bus. A bit like that former labor leader that the nation rejected (the nation knew there was something up with that weasle).
What do you say about that?
Answer the question?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

We are a really divided group....
I think all the men on here who are real feminist types have some horrible skeletons in their closet they are rightly ashamed of and want to feel better about it by throwing the whole gender under the bus. A bit like that former labor leader that the nation rejected.
What do you say about that?
Answer the question?

That's exactly what I thought when I read their self-righteous posts.

What are they hiding?

 

[T-Boon]

But if you’re not having any luck finding a lover who you’re compatible with, my advice would be that the first thing you should do, and I can’t stress this enough, is stop listening to Jordan f**king Peterson.

Maybe the hairy legged wilder beast women you hang around have it in for JP - but 90% of them haven't heard of him.
From the male perspective he talks intelligently about interesting stuff like evolutionary biology etc. He is a good dude unless you are a rabid left winger. Even if you are just in the middle he is worth listening to.
The thing that I like about him most is he hates mobs. I love people who hate mobs.

 

[T-Boon]

That's exactly what I thought when I read their self-righteous posts.

What are they hiding?

Mark Geyer is the classic example of this right?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

5 Scientific Reasons Why Women Just Won't Go For The Nice Guys
BY GIGI ENGLE
APRIL 15, 2015
Most women claim to want the guy who is sensitive, emotionally fluent and intimate. Yet, when it comes down to it, women consistently chase after the “bad boy," the guy who is narcissistic, self-absorbed and avoids all forms of intimacy as if they were infectious diseases.

A woman's dating preference is the ultimate paradox.

The thing is, while we're constantly on the lookout for that super sweet, caring guy who will make a great companion, we're actually attracted to the guy who ignites passion within us.

Nice guys are just boring.

It's a giant catch-22, isn't it? We want to have serious relationships with good, sweet guys, but we want to make babies with aggressive assh*les.

There's just something so satisfying about taking the jerk home from the bar who's spent most of the night intellectually challenging you in a heated verbal debate.

He needs to be brought down a notch. He's absolutely infuriating! And isn't that so f*cking sexy?

What it all comes down to is biology. We are literally, scientifically geared to want assh*les.

While women claim to want “the nice guy,” we're genetically hard-wired to want to procreate with the alpha male because he has stronger sperm.

There is an actual “Nice Guy Paradox"
In two studies highlighted in “Sex Roles, A Journal of Research,” the “nice guy paradox” is explored.

This nice guy stereotype contends that women often claim they want a nice guy, a man who is sweet, kind and sensitive, and yet, when it comes down to it, she rejects this man for one with “other salient characteristics” like a hot body or an ultra strong personality.

Both studies found that “nice” qualities were more desirable for long-term relationships while physical attractiveness prevailed in terms of sexual relationships:​

Niceness appeared to be the most salient factor when it came to desirability for more serious relationships, whereas physical attractiveness appeared more important in terms of desirability for more casual, sexual relationships.​

A study in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy focused on university women and their perception of the “nice guy” stereotype:​

More than one half of the women agreed that nice guys have fewer sexual partners, however, more than one half also reported a preference for a nice guy over a bad boy as a date.​

As hypothesized, women who placed a lesser emphasis on the importance of sex had fewer sexual partners, were less accepting of men who had many sexual partners and were more likely to choose the nice guy as a dating partner.

We just don't learn our lesson

A study from researchers at Hartpury College in England, of 146 British women, ages 18-24, found that even the most seasoned daters still tended to fall for men who expelled narcissistic qualities.

The narcissistic male does not make a good partner, but even experienced females do not realize this.

These women even often ended up married to narcissists. In a tragic twist of fate, the assh*les are now breeding assh*les. Oy vey.

The tests are tried and true; women habitually chase these d-bags, despite how many times they have their hearts broken.

It's like we just can't help ourselves. We want those arrogant dicks who make us somehow feel alive.

We love the danger

We choose assh*les because of the danger factor involved in dating guys who are strong and conceited.

We know they're wrong for us, they'll never treat us the way we think we deserve to be treated, and instead of running for the hills, we jump on for the ride. Damn you, biology!

Nice guys are boring

No woman wants to be with a man who doesn't know how to assert himself. Whether we want to admit it or not, we want excitement in our relationships. We want a powerful, aggressive man.

This can be a difficult thing to admit as a strong, independent female, but it is, nonetheless, true.

Women don't want to be with someone who is all calm seas and clear skies; we crave constant challenges in everything we do.

When it comes to love, we choose the guy who satisfies that desire. The nice guy may seem great on paper, but he turns out bland in real life.

We want a project

Women like to "fix men." A nice guy doesn't need any taming. He's already solid on the homefront. He isn't intense or severe.

As often as we ladies say those chaotic personality traits aren't what we're looking for in a boyfriend, they are. Just look at history.

When a woman is faced with a "bad boy," she automatically finds the challenge to tame him alluring.

His vanity is all at once angering and intoxicating. If she can bring him down to earth, it would be the ultimate accomplishment.

Our carnal wants will win out every time.

https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/science-women-nice-guys/1000116​

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Mark Geyer is the classic example of this right?

Yes!

He was always suspended for God knows what, yet here he is playing Mr Feminist all the time.

It reminded me of Gordan Tallis telling some one to see out their contract.

 

[Vee]

...piss poor justice system.

Worst in the world. Except for all the others.

 

[nick87]

We are a really divided group....
I think all the men on here who are real feminist types have some horrible skeletons in their closet they are rightly ashamed of and want to feel better about it by throwing the whole gender under the bus. A bit like that former labor leader that the nation rejected.
What do you say about that?
Answer the question?

That's exactly what I thought when I read their self-righteous posts.

What are they hiding?

Telling.

 

[Perth Red]

We are a really divided group....
I think all the men on here who are real feminist types have some horrible skeletons in their closet they are rightly ashamed of and want to feel better about it by throwing the whole gender under the bus. A bit like that former labor leader that the nation rejected (the nation knew there was something up with that weasle).
What do you say about that?
Answer the question?

thats because you have a limited ability to form multiple possible rational ideas and conclusions lol.
Women need to be smarter and understand many blokes are shts, and if they are professional sportsmen be extra cautious. some Men need to stop being shts.
Big up to all the decent blokes in the world who don’t act like shts to women.