Jesse Bromwich & Kevin Proctor allegedly purchase cocaine after last nights game.

[justdave]

What a shit thing to say.....
smith, cronk and slater are smart enough and been around long enough to remove themselves from those situations.

Stewart was outside his own home after jumping in a taxi when an area of the pub closed. His missus was inside waiting for him.

Am I still butthurt about it? Fûck yes.

The NRL panicked and suspended him for being allegedly drunk. They've been all over the shop in terms of sanctions ever since.

 

[Canard]

It's absurd to keep dragging up an incident from a decade ago as some sort of precedent for another unrelated incident.

 

[mave]

I think the NRL's handling of the Stewart case is an excellent example of how not to handle situations like these.

Storm warrior thinks the NRL should suspend players simply after accusations have been made, unless it's Smith, Slater or Cronk, of course.

 

[rockcod]

Sounds like Greenberg and the integrity committee have spun the wheel and come with "happy with the sanctions" with a bonus 1st strike.

Seems lenient on one hand but when you add the loss of world cup in it does add up.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Stewart was outside his own home after jumping in a taxi when an area of the pub closed. His missus was inside waiting for him.

Am I still butthurt about it? Fûck yes.

The NRL panicked and suspended him for being allegedly drunk. They've been all over the shop in terms of sanctions ever since.

Are you and beaver the same person?
The past couple years the sanctions imposed have been quite fair. As well as agreed upon by the player. Show me a instance where it hasn't?

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I think the NRL's handling of the Stewart case is an excellent example of how not to handle situations like these.

Storm warrior thinks the NRL should suspend players simply after accusations have been made, unless it's Smith, Slater or Cronk, of course.

You, justdave and beaver need to all act like adults and get over that incident. Don't let something that happened nearly 10 years ago skew your judgment on something that is happening now. The Nrl is nothing like it was back then.

Yes if the allegations are about a issue that the Nrl campaigns against, yes initially suspend players for a short period of time till further investigations are finalised. Domestic violence, racial issues and sexual assault allegations are all serious issues that the Nrl campaigns against.

Allegations that are enough to become charges (guilty or not) HAVE to be acted upon by the nrl. Otherwise your basically saying that if a players commits murder/rape he should be able to play till court date. That would be a bigger stain on the game than this.

 

[mave]

You, justdave and beaver need to all act like adults and get over that incident. Don't let something that happened nearly 10 years ago skew your judgment on something that is happening now. The Nrl is nothing like it was back then.

Yes if the allegations are about a issue that the Nrl campaigns against, yes initially suspend players for a short period of time till further investigations are finalised. Domestic violence, racial issues and sexual assault allegations are all serious issues that the Nrl campaigns against.

Allegations that are enough to become charges (guilty or not) HAVE to be acted upon by the nrl. Otherwise your basically saying that if a players commits murder/rape he should be able to play till court date. That would be a bigger stain on the game than this.

And you are basically saying that I can accuse the Storm big 3 in Grand Final week of whatever raping, assulting, bad behaviour I choose, and the NRL should sit them out....

 

[mave]

And on a side note, if this fool gets what he wants ( suspending players on allegations ), do we think the betting agencys wouldn't be all over that possible scenario above ??

 

[myrrh ken]

Stewart was outside his own home after jumping in a taxi when an area of the pub closed. His missus was inside waiting for him.

Am I still butthurt about it? Fûck yes.

The NRL panicked and suspended him for being allegedly drunk. They've been all over the shop in terms of sanctions ever since.

haha - he was RSA'ed and kicked out.

They suspended him mostly because he was alleged to have sexually assaulted a minor. Obviously he was proved innocent. I'm not defending the NRL but its a pretty serious allegation and I sort of understand why they wanted to take some sort of action.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

And you are basically saying that I can accuse the Storm big 3 in Grand Final week of whatever raping, assulting, bad behaviour I choose, and the NRL should sit them out....

That's why clubs have guards/minders for idiots like you.

There you go again putting words in my mouth. There are allegations like someone saying "he assaulted her" which have no further information or proof compared to allegations with pictures/video footage, drunk behavior, positive drug testing etc there is a difference.

 

[Nice Beaver]

And you are basically saying that I can accuse the Storm big 3 in Grand Final week of whatever raping, assulting, bad behaviour I choose, and the NRL should sit them out....

Mate, forget it.

Arguing with teenage Storm fans is not good for your sanity.

 

[justdave]

haha - he was RSA'ed and kicked out.

They suspended him mostly because he was alleged to have sexually assaulted a minor. Obviously he was proved innocent. I'm not defending the NRL but its a pretty serious allegation and I sort of understand why they wanted to take some sort of action.

My main point was in reference to him to the joker who implied he put himself into the situation. Which wasn't the case

 

[mave]

haha - he was RSA'ed and kicked out.

They suspended him mostly because he was alleged to have sexually assaulted a minor. Obviously he was proved innocent. I'm not defending the NRL but its a pretty serious allegation and I sort of understand why they wanted to take some sort of action.

Yes, because Bec Wilson said so. Lmao

 

[mave]

That's why clubs have guards/minders for idiots like you.

There you go again putting words in my mouth. There are allegations like someone saying "he assaulted her" which have no further information or proof compared to allegations with pictures/video footage, drunk behavior, positive drug testing etc there is a difference.

Pick a position and stick with it.

You said previously that you wanted bans for players from the NRL due to "bad look" accusations ( like Stewart and Semi). Then further sanctions after a court finds them guilty.

Now you say they should only be banned if there is photos, videos etc..

Soooooooo, which is it ?

 

[mave]

I feel the Nrl has been quite good with there actions in the past couple years. "Bad form" is an instant media issue. If it's a video of something it's there in black and white. They can be disciplined. If they are charged but plead not guilty the nrl has to give the player the benefit of the doubt. If it's a serious offence in B Stewart's/radradra case an initial (bad look) suspension might be given then after court, necessary action is then taken or not. I feel for radradra due to his mrs "making false claims" and not really receiving any punishment for her lies.

In black and white right there.....

 

[Perth Red]

NRL are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they do nothing until court case is over (sometimes months) then the media and some fans/companies crucifies for them for being soft on women bashers (or whatever the crime is), if they do something and allegations are proven untrue or complaint withdrawn then they are crucified for being unfair and unjust to the innocent player. Who'd be an NRL CEO!

 

[mave]

NRL are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they do nothing until court case is over (sometimes months) then the media and some fans/companies crucifies for them for being soft on women bashers (or whatever the crime is), if they do something and allegations are proven untrue or complaint withdrawn then they are crucified for being unfair and unjust to the innocent player. Who'd be an NRL CEO!

Consistency is all the people are asking for.
This seems beyond NRL capabailities.

 

[myrrh ken]

Yes, because Bec Wilson said so. Lmao

I dunno what she wrote about it. Obviously the victim being a minor raises the bar over your average DV or Nightclub grope

standing someone down happens routinely at my work. For Risk mitigation and PR.

Doesn't translate neatly here but the principles are the same.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Pick a position and stick with it.

You said previously that you wanted bans for players from the NRL due to "bad look" accusations ( like Stewart and Semi). Then further sanctions after a court finds them guilty.

Now you say they should only be banned if there is photos, videos etc..

Soooooooo, which is it ?

There you go again.... trying to misquote me. Please read what I did write. I did say initial bans for "bad look". You are clearly going to sulk in your manly jersey and hat about the Stewart thing till the day you die, which is unfortunate. Probably one of the bigger issues here is that nrl people need to be able to move on and not get childish and hang on to perceived mistreatment of their team.

I have said that in my opinion, Stewart should of got a week instead of 4 weeks. Being the face of the nrl that year, blind drunk/kicked out of the manly function and unfortunately unbeknownst to him a mentally unstable girl cried sexual assault (serious allegations) while he was by himself. It was enough for the cops to charge him. That's my opinion and your entitled to yours.

Semi ex had photos and msgs etc and was also enough for the cops to have enough for a charge.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Consistency is all the people are asking for.
This seems beyond NRL capabailities.

Exactly consistency, which the nrl has been over the past 2/3 years. Instead, over the past 4 pages we have had manly idiots still crying over something from 9 years ago and using that as an example of how the nrl Is being inconsistent now.