Jim Beam Cup 2007 season

[Nfed]

Wenty beat Mounties 42-16 and Belrose beat Shellharbour 16-10. The 2 games on the central coast were also postponed. The table, which has been distorted by postponed games, is as follows:

18 Windsor, Belrose (12 games)
17 The Entrance (11)
17 Bulls (12)
16 Cabramatta (11)
14 Mounties (12)
14 Wenty (13)
8 Shellharbour (12)
6 Erina, Chester Hill (11)
4 Asquith (11)
2 Demons (12)

 

[Stagger eel]

I hear Wenty could be back in the picture as a possible feeder club for the eels next season, although I still think that Mounties are in the box seat.

 

[one_eyed_demon]

I hear Wenty could be back in the picture as a possible feeder club for the eels next season, although I still think that Mounties are in the box seat.

yeah i still think mounties will get the nod.

u know the more i think about this new structure next year the more it pisses me off, just another example of the NRL and its clubs saving $$$ at the expense of junior clubs and fans.

Come game day will ticket prices be cheaper cause we are only getting 2 games compared to 3 of previous years? i think not, but clubs are gonna save dollars on gameday operating expenses(dont need stadium staff as long). there gonna save about a million a year in player wages, gear, transport etc.

what about junior league clubs, who is going to be able to compete with a club that is the feeder club for an nrl team? The premier league squad is about 25-30 players, lets say their all fit, where will the overflow go? the clubs JBC or A grade side.
NRL clubs previously shared their overflow around clubs in the district. With the new set up aint no way the feeder club will be sharing its premier league overflow around.
i think it will make it tough for other clubs to compete in senior grades against these feeder clubs.

end of rant:crazy:

 

[2BLUES]

yeah i still think mounties will get the nod.

u know the more i think about this new structure next year the more it pisses me off, just another example of the NRL and its clubs saving $$$ at the expense of junior clubs and fans.

Come game day will ticket prices be cheaper cause we are only getting 2 games compared to 3 of previous years? i think not, but clubs are gonna save dollars on gameday operating expenses(dont need stadium staff as long). there gonna save about a million a year in player wages, gear, transport etc.

what about junior league clubs, who is going to be able to compete with a club that is the feeder club for an nrl team? The premier league squad is about 25-30 players, lets say their all fit, where will the overflow go? the clubs JBC or A grade side.
NRL clubs previously shared their overflow around clubs in the district. With the new set up aint no way the feeder club will be sharing its premier league overflow around.
i think it will make it tough for other clubs to compete in senior grades against these feeder clubs.

end of rant:crazy:

I agree with you, it just doesnt make sense at all...
I dont like the set up at all and its unfair to the rest of the clubs. Especially the kids who play for other clubs. Then you would get familys trying to squeeze and compete to get their children into feeder clubs hoping for a possible future for their child. St Marys leagues club were already doing this, only accepting the best quality players and rejecting the rest, this is after they had the Metro Cup team which then joined forces with Panthers. Hear this all the time from friends of the club.

 

[The Wrong Eye]

That is right about St Marys , it is hard for any other clubs to compete with St Marys , look at the results of there Saturday teams and they are mercy ruling (50-0) against most teams in most age groups. They bring them in at 13,14 and then claim them as locals.Peter Wallace was from Lower Mountains , Michael Jennings from West City tigers.
It is like local rep teams.They have 2 football adminstration officers to run the club while all other clubs rely on volunteers, Very hard to compete.
There A grade team could more or likely compete in the Jim Beam Cup , in saying that there is some other teams Brothers and Doonside could also.
Brothers have 3 players from last year at Mounties Alf Betham , Blake Blackburn and Shane Saunders add to that players from this year Chris Law,Brett Law , Matt Nightingale , Darren Baker , Dave Cahalane , Ken Webb they could more than compete

 

[one_eyed_demon]

That is right about St Marys , it is hard for any other clubs to compete with St Marys , look at the results of there Saturday teams and they are mercy ruling (50-0) against most teams in most age groups. They bring them in at 13,14 and then claim them as locals.Peter Wallace was from Lower Mountains , Michael Jennings from West City tigers.
It is like local rep teams.They have 2 football adminstration officers to run the club while all other clubs rely on volunteers, Very hard to compete.
There A grade team could more or likely compete in the Jim Beam Cup , in saying that there is some other teams Brothers and Doonside could also.
Brothers have 3 players from last year at Mounties Alf Betham , Blake Blackburn and Shane Saunders add to that players from this year Chris Law,Brett Law , Matt Nightingale , Darren Baker , Dave Cahalane , Ken Webb they could more than compete

Yeah its a shame, cause its gonna ruin junior comps in most districts. Balmain/Ryde Eastwood is the exception as they only play premier league so they do not affect local juniors.

The penrith comp was getting out of hand, i think they bought in a points system similar to JBC this year. I remember doonside last year had 3 players, wozniak, pearson and hasem sailor who walked straight from NRL contracts to play penrith A grade.

 

[Nfed]

Round 14

Saturday
Windsor vs Shellharbour at Windsor 7pm

Sunday
Wenty vs Chester Hill at Ringrose Park 3pm
Mounties vs Sydney Bulls at Mounties 3pm
Cabramatta vs Seven Hills at Cabramatta 3pm
The Entrance vs Erina at EDSACC 3pm
Asquith vs Belrose at Storey Park 3pm

 

[Nfed]

A few clubs dropping out of Premier League will actually mean that the JBC teams will have a larger pool of players to choose from. The Bulldogs currently have 28 players in their full time squad and another 22 players in the P/L squad. Next year they will just have a full time squad of 30. This means that 20 players will be looking for spots in other P/L teams or be available to join any of the JBC teams that on a permanent basis. Currently only 2 or 3 of these guys get a run for the Bulls each week and none of the top 30 would ever be available for JBC teams or A Grade, so I see it as positive. A similar number of players from Parramatta will also be on the market and if Penrith vacate for Windsor you could have a pool of up to 50-60 players available.

Maybe Cabramatta should be talking to Parramatta about an agreement to split their excess full time players between 2 clubs. Cabra’s squad is strong enough to be a reasonable P/L team if they had 6 of Parra’s full time squad available each week.

 

[Spike]

I've noticed Damien Mostyn is back playing JB Cup for Mounties. I think he's been playing in the St George A grade comp but can't confirm it.

 

[Nfed]

This may be Ghosn playing mind games after Mostyn's falling out with the Bulls in the preseason, but I can confirm that Mostyn was not one of the four former Bulls players (now with "The Grove") that played for St George in the John Peard Cup today

 

[Nfed]

Sydney Bulls 16 (D Barakat, K Deeb, W Naiqama tries N Wynn 2 goals) beat Mounties 8 (M McConnell, M Butler tries).

Mounties scored first on a heavy pitch. The Bulls dominated territory for most of the first half and had 3 tries disallowed before they registered first points. A runaway try to Butler gave the home side a 8-6 lead at half time. The Bulls were the only scorers in the second half and played th last 8 minutes wuth 12 after Salem was binned.

Both sides were better than their last starts against Wenty. Mounties have a big pack with Betham and Blackburn starting and Amone on the bench. There were some big hits and there were a few incidents that boiled over especially when Rasabale appeared to have been speared.

Mostyn did not appear for Mounties.

 

[one_eyed_demon]

Cabramatta 44 (Thompson,Moore, Brown, Allifaalogo,Betham 2,Tippet, Britcher,Parker. Tippet 4 goals) bt Seven Hills 16 (Ackroyd, Peachey 2. Ackroyd 2 goals)

Cabra blew of us the park in the first 12 mins scoring 3 tries. Ackroyd was the only try scorer for the demons in the first half when he picked up a cabra loose ball and raced 60m. Cabra scored 3 more tries to go into the break leading 32-6.
A better second half from the demons saw them score first 2 tries in the second half through peachey. Cabra scored a couple of late tries to stretch out their lead again.
Tippet's short kicking game was on song with 5 of their tries coming from kicks.

 

[Nfed]

Other results:

Windsor 36 beat Shellharbour 18, Wenty 50 beat Chester Hill 12, The Entrance 26 beat Erina 12, Belrose 40 beat Asquith 20.

The table is:

20 Windsor, Belrose (13 games)
19 The Entrance (12)
19 Sydney Bulls (13)
18 Cabramatta (12)
16 Wenty (14)
14 Mounties (13)
8 Shellharbour (13)
6 Erina, Chester Hill (12)
4 Asquith (12)
2 Seven Hills (13)

 

[The Wrong Eye]

I hear Mark Horo might be going back to St Clair next year in the Penrith comp.

 

[Nfed]

Any word on whether Erina will sack him before the end of the season like Asquith did?

 

[Stagger eel]

I hear Mark Horo might be going back to St Clair next year in the Penrith comp.

I'll try and confirm that rumour.

 

[Nfed]

Ward: I'll fight it
26Jun07

Nathan Ward receives his marching orders from the referee following the hit on Erina fullback Ryan Tubridy.

TIGERS five-eighth Nathan Ward will fight the charge handed out after his high shot put Erina fullback Ryan Tubridy in hospital with multiple fractures to his face.

Ward was sent off in the Jim Beam Cup match at Bateau Bay Oval on Sunday.
He will head to the NSW Rugby League judiciary tonight accompanied by a QC to plead not guilty to the charge of an intentional high tackle, grade five.
It is the highest grade the NSWRL applies to a high tackle and, with carry-over points from a previous send-off against Shellharbour earlier this season, Ward will cop a 12-week suspension if found guilty.
But Ward and The Entrance club claimed the injury was an ``accident'' and that Tubridy fell into the tackle.
`He's a good bloke,'' Ward said.
``It was an accident. I didn't mean for it to happen and I'm really sorry it did.''
Tigers football manager Garry Laundt said the club felt for the injured player but said Ward's penalty should not be determined by Tubridy's injuries.

``I've watched the DVD several times and he (Tubridy) was not upright when Nathan connected,'' Laundt said.
``I know the boy well and it is not something he would have done intentionally.''
Tubridy was hit high by Ward in the 23rd minute of the match when the Eagles led 2-0.
He collapsed to the ground and started convulsing.
The seizure lasted two minutes before Tubridy started breathing again.
The Eagles fullback is in a stable condition in Gosford Hospital and is expected to have surgery today or tomorrow on injuries that include fractures to his cheekbones, eye sockets and his nose.
After the match Ward spoke remorsefully about the tackle.
He said he knew Tubridy well because the Eagles fullback lived next door to his (Ward's) girlfriend at Berkeley Vale.
Tigers coach also Jamy Forbes defended Ward. He said it was not in his make-up to deliberately go high.

Source: Central Coast Express Advocate

 

[Nfed]

The Belrose Eagles kept themselves at the top of the JBC ladder with a hard fought win over the Asquith Magpies in the local derby played at Storey Park yesterday. These matches have always been tight affairs in recent years and this game was no different with the result in the balance until the final 10 minutes.
Belrose started fast and played some attractive widespread footy in the opening 20 minutes. During this time, Michael Lamanna chased through a perfectly weighted Richie Plummer grubber to claim a great try and then Peter Delaivuna charged onto a neat Plummer pass to score a second. The Plummer conversions gave the Eagles a 12-0 lead and it looked like they may rack up a big score but the Magpies were having none of that and began to dominate possession and field position. In fact, the Eagles never wandered into Asquith territory again in the first half. In the 25th minute, Asquith scored a try in the corner courtesy of their big side stepping centre and in the 35th minute scored another after a chip kick into the Eagles in goal. Half time Belrose 12 – Asquith 10.

The Roses half time talk was mostly about controlling possession. Games cannot be won without the ball and continual defence leads to tired attack. The second stanza didn’t start well for Belrose with Asquith quickly on the attack and scoring a try through a dummy half scoot for them to take the lead 12-16. The Magpies joy was short lived though as Belrose struck straight back with a try in the corner to Tim Mortimer courtesy of a long Plummer pass for the game to be locked up at 16 each. Five minutes later Steve Carew charged over for the Eagles to take a 22-16 lead. From the ensuing kick off, Belrose fumbled the ball and in the following plays the Magpies were over in the corner and the game was delicately poised at 22-20.

In the final quarter of the game, the Eagles had the upper hand and they piled on three converted tries to take the game away from Asquith. The first was a movement that started from the Roses half and some quick hands to Tim Mortimer saw him run 40 metres avoiding the cover and stepping the fullback to score under the posts. Next was a great David Pangai effort where he took advantage of a quick play the ball to run 50 metres straight down the middle of the park to score under the sticks. Two minutes later it was Pangai again who gapped the Magpies down the middle, this time finding Michael Lamanna looming on the inside who went over to complete another great try.

Final score Belrose 40 Asquith 20.

Not a complete performance from the Eagles, but they showed their attacking potency in the opening and closing stages and did enough in the middle part to ensure the win. Martin Cook was outstanding off the bench in the front row as was fellow front rower Shannon Cameron. Richie Plummer was central to most of the Eagles successes in attack and David Pangai was a handful for the Pies each time he handled. Peter Delaivuna added some real zip and was rewarded with a fine try.

Next Saturday Belrose take on Cabramatta 5pm at Cabramatta Sports ground.

Source: Belrose website

 

[Stagger eel]

I hear Mark Horo might be going back to St Clair next year in the Penrith comp.

he definitely won't be coaching St Clair.

 

[The Wrong Eye]

he definitely won't be coaching St Clair.

do you know of his plans eelavation ??