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JOEL THOMPSON TO MANLY?

getsmarty

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Something doesn't add up = we are the new North Sydney. We will be extinct soon enough.

Any top team would keep thommo and bring through the juniors everyone is clutching to for dim hope and sign the other star.

That is what the top clubs do and everyone wants to play for a top club.

Look farther afield if you don't believe me - New England Patriots, Seattle Seahawks, Manchester United, NYY, Saints in the glory days.

I laugh when people tell me times have changed - clubs still do today what we did in the 60's - they play around the rules and ensure success within the frameworks of today.

We don't have cash anymore and we don't have facer and co (real leaders with brains).

Any company with no cash and no leaders will always fail - unless someone saves them - welcome to life.

Question....Would you offer Thompson a 4 year deal and overs just because another club may be allegedly doing this ? ....Similar to Packer.....
 

Sheridan Stand

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Question....Would you offer Thompson a 4 year deal and overs just because another club may be allegedly doing this ? ....Similar to Packer.....

It's called leadership, vision and smarts GM

For thommo, I see him as an above average worker who is worth keeping (not a world star but strong and every team needs a few thommos). So yes, I would have locked him up much earlier so he couldn't be approached - at the end of last year why not sign him for 4 years that way we would only be doing 2 more years (17,18,19 and 20). He would be good for the young blokes in 20 and maybe even 21.

To do this i would have used some TP or an Easts type arrangement if needed.

As I said we have no TP, no cash and no idea.

Same way I would have signed Bennett to 5 years.

I also would have signed Bird to 5 years and blooded him

I also would have had a clause in packers contract saying we have an option clause given all the effort and risk we took to bring him back and give him the chance to redeem. We did all the heavy lifting and he can just walk as soon as he likes for more $.

Our club is North Sydney - easier if you accept that rather than try daily to spin and protect our clueless leaders.
 

getsmarty

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It's called leadership, vision and smarts GM

For thommo, I see him as an above average worker who is worth keeping (not a world star but strong and every team needs a few thommos). So yes, I would have locked him up much earlier so he couldn't be approached - at the end of last year why not sign him for 4 years that way we would only be doing 2 more years (17,18,19 and 20). He would be good for the young blokes in 20 and maybe even 21.

To do this i would have used some TP or an Easts type arrangement if needed.

As I said we have no TP, no cash and no idea.

Same way I would have signed Bennett to 5 years.

I also would have signed Bird to 5 years and blooded him

I also would have had a clause in packers contract saying we have an option clause given all the effort and risk we took to bring him back and give him the chance to redeem. We did all the heavy lifting and he can just walk as soon as he likes for more $.

Our club is North Sydney - easier if you accept that rather than try daily to spin and protect our clueless leaders.

Fair enough. although Millward is doing a good job locking up our Juniors and I think he is trying to rectify the Bird situation by not letting this type of scenario happen again. We have the best crop of juniors we have had in a long time so you need to make a pathway for them. In regards to Thommo...other clubs can always come in and offer better deals. We can't keep them all.

I.M.H.O the biggest challenge we face is the coach and Board. Look at who is on the Roosters board and we just cannot compete in terms of third party.
 
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possm

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We have got Lomax coming through. He looks a definite.

We also have Host and Leilua coming through, hopefully one of them steps up next year and makes Thompson's spot their own.

We have just blooded Dufty this year. He looks like a very exciting prospect.

We also have Field coming through, but he will have to be good to take Dufty position or push Widdop out in the next few years.

We have Marsters who I think is only 17. He has big wraps on him. He has a build that I think will be able to handle first grade in the next couple of years. He has played fullback and wing for the 20's this year. He could even develop into a centre in the future.

Then there is Herbert, Garrick and Johns. I hope that at least one of them can develop into a first grade player.

We have more promising youngsters, than we have had for a very long time.

That was without mentioning Lawrie and Kerr too.

Most teams that win comps have 2 or 3 youngsters in their team who are in their first or second year of first grade.

It's all about timing and opportunity. Just take a look at promising young guns that have gone on to play with other Clubs in first grade. Then all of a sudden we need a good player in his preferred position. Bird, Hastings, Whare, Linnett come to mind. On many occasions losing good young guns is beyond our control and on others we make a stupid mistake.

My thoughts are that if a player is good enough, he is old enough. All players should be picked on form so it is up to the young gun to put their hand up by performing well in the l
It's called leadership, vision and smarts GM

For thommo, I see him as an above average worker who is worth keeping (not a world star but strong and every team needs a few thommos). So yes, I would have locked him up much earlier so he couldn't be approached - at the end of last year why not sign him for 4 years that way we would only be doing 2 more years (17,18,19 and 20). He would be good for the young blokes in 20 and maybe even 21.

To do this i would have used some TP or an Easts type arrangement if needed.

As I said we have no TP, no cash and no idea.

Same way I would have signed Bennett to 5 years.

I also would have signed Bird to 5 years and blooded him

I also would have had a clause in packers contract saying we have an option clause given all the effort and risk we took to bring him back and give him the chance to redeem. We did all the heavy lifting and he can just walk as soon as he likes for more $.

Our club is North Sydney - easier if you accept that rather than try daily to spin and protect our clueless leaders.

I think you'll find that Packer was on a very low salary for the time he was with us.

I will never accept that we are a 'North Sydney' type club. In my opinion we are a Club in decline but with the right people in charge, we could easily be great again. We have the junior nersary, the brand name know all of the world of rugby league and a tradition of excellence in days gone past. Sell the Club to an entity with the cash to invest and some smart professional people and we will be again be the team to beat each year.
 

Sheridan Stand

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It's all about timing and opportunity. Just take a look at promising young guns that have gone on to play with other Clubs in first grade. Then all of a sudden we need a good player in his preferred position. Bird, Hastings, Whare, Linnett come to mind. On many occasions losing good young guns is beyond our control and on others we make a stupid mistake.

My thoughts are that if a player is good enough, he is old enough. All players should be picked on form so it is up to the young gun to put their hand up by performing well in the l


I think you'll find that Packer was on a very low salary for the time he was with us.

I will never accept that we are a 'North Sydney' type club. In my opinion we are a Club in decline but with the right people in charge, we could easily be great again. We have the junior nersary, the brand name know all of the world of rugby league and a tradition of excellence in days gone past. Sell the Club to an entity with the cash to invest and some smart professional people and we will be again be the team to beat each year.
Well you better accept it...:because that is what we are.

I agree we can be great again - for sure but right now we make North Sydney a powerhouse.
 

Twenty10

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JT is on too much money. Hard to offer him that again for another contract... makes no commercial sense despite the attraction of his leadership and off field qualities.
 

mobels

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It's called leadership, vision and smarts GM

For thommo, I see him as an above average worker who is worth keeping (not a world star but strong and every team needs a few thommos). So yes, I would have locked him up much earlier so he couldn't be approached - at the end of last year why not sign him for 4 years that way we would only be doing 2 more years (17,18,19 and 20). He would be good for the young blokes in 20 and maybe even 21.

To do this i would have used some TP or an Easts type arrangement if needed.

As I said we have no TP, no cash and no idea.

Same way I would have signed Bennett to 5 years.

I also would have signed Bird to 5 years and blooded him

I also would have had a clause in packers contract saying we have an option clause given all the effort and risk we took to bring him back and give him the chance to redeem. We did all the heavy lifting and he can just walk as soon as he likes for more $.

Our club is North Sydney - easier if you accept that rather than try daily to spin and protect our clueless leaders.
Jesus christ, I'm a massive fan of Thommo and won't be happy if he's let go without him seeing out the remainder of his contract. But if we signed him to a 4 year deal we might as well tell Host and Leilua to f**k off, because there is 0 chance they'd ever get a chance to play full time first grade.

Host is more than ready to take Thommo's starting spot if required (though I'd prefer if it started from 2019 with Thommo seeing out the remainder of his contract) and Leilua is ready for the bench spot.
 

Overseas dragon

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What about a fullback? We're in serious trouble without one. Atm we have a lesser version of Quinlan which has me worried. And before all the lovers of this guy playing FB, step back. We need someone bigger and and stronger in defence.
How's it feel to be a f**kwit all the time DRAG.do you have 2dicks you surely can't be that stupid pulling one
Hardly ignorant. If you have faith that this kid will deliver the goods, you are delusional. Compare him to any other FB in the comp. I doubt he will keep that position for long. Writing is already on the wall.
Well COAST DRAGON it seems you and I along with Paul SIRONEN are all delusional .MRS DRAG QUEEN must be on some strong SHIT.
 

twinkletoes

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When the Dragons were on a winning roll early in the season both Packer and Dugan were playing extremely well..in fact Dugan on may occasions was our best player. When both these players lost form and developed a poor attitude the team started playing poorly. My point is this..we have lost Dugan, Packer and it now seems Thommo who has played consistently well all season. We have gained Graham who I think has played average for most of the season and is getting on in years, and Hunt who is a class half, but who also struggled quite a bit throughout the season playing in a very good side with a great coach. My opinion taking the pluses and minuses...as it stands we are not as good a side on paper in 2018 as 2017. Now with Thommo going seemingly that tips the scale into the negative for 2018...
 

MilanDragon

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While I don't want to see him go, if what's been reported about a 4 year deal is true, we have to. He deserves an opportunity to set himself and his family up long term. Plus we'd be silly to offer a 29 year old a 4 year contract with the juniors we have available.

I actually hope that if we let him go, we don't replace with a 2nd tower but rather fill with one of our juniors. What a great opportunity for Host/Sele and Leilua to step up. I'm guessing Sims to starting 2nd row and maybe one of those in his 'guaranteed' bench selection.

In terms of cap space it'll free up room not just next year but 2019 onwards
 

mickeylane

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I think recruitment have come to the below conclusions regarding Thompsons potential departure.

1. We are well stocked for back rowers and could deal w no THOMPSON in 2018 and beyond see Host, Sele, Leilua, Simms, Frizzell
2.
Our halves pairing is at its optimum potential
3. Our backline is in urgent need of at least 1 if not 2 starting wingers/centres so need the additional $400k a season to attract the right players see Rona, Korobite, B Morris, Whare

I still think THOMPSON can play at the top level for at least 2 more years without a sweat.. I don't see a replacement coming in for him...
 

mickeylane

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When the Dragons were on a winning roll early in the season both Packer and Dugan were playing extremely well..in fact Dugan on may occasions was our best player. When both these players lost form and developed a poor attitude the team started playing poorly. My point is this..we have lost Dugan, Packer and it now seems Thommo who has played consistently well all season. We have gained Graham who I think has played average for most of the season and is getting on in years, and Hunt who is a class half, but who also struggled quite a bit throughout the season playing in a very good side with a great coach. My opinion taking the pluses and minuses...as it stands we are not as good a side on paper in 2018 as 2017. Now with Thommo going seemingly that tips the scale into the negative for 2018...
Don't agree..
The missing links for 2017 was a top class half and a ball playing Fullback..
We have both next year ..
 

BennyV

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Don't agree..
The missing links for 2017 was a top class half and a ball playing Fullback..
We have both next year ..
We were also missing speed on the left edge, some sort of brains on the right edge of the field, a utility that can cover hooker and a coach who knows more about coaching footy than how to paint a gym. None of those have been fixed.

With the improvement in the halves we MIGHT scrape into the 8. It's not good enough.
 

Drag Queen

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How's it feel to be a f**kwit all the time DRAG.do you have 2dicks you surely can't be that stupid pulling one

Well COAST DRAGON it seems you and I along with Paul SIRONEN are all delusional .MRS DRAG QUEEN must be on some strong SHIT.
Yeah, I can see your cohorts agreeing here (Not). Get back to me next year and then see. Sironen based his conjecture on the nines. Get a grip, unless you can't get it up old boy. Facebook fans summed it up perfectly.
 

Drag Queen

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Don't agree..
The missing links for 2017 was a top class half and a ball playing Fullback..
We have both next year ..
Do you really think we have a viable fullback mickeylane? Love your optimism but a ball playing fullback does not pass to a winger inside their 10 metre line. What am I missing?
 

Drag Queen

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How's it feel to be a f**kwit all the time DRAG.do you have 2dicks you surely can't be that stupid pulling one

Well COAST DRAGON it seems you and I along with Paul SIRONEN are all delusional .MRS DRAG QUEEN must be on some strong SHIT.
Have your nurses in the dementia unit given you leave OD?
 

Drag Queen

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Question....Would you offer Thompson a 4 year deal and overs just because another club may be allegedly doing this ? ....Similar to Packer.....
Business as usual, but I'm sad about this, if it's true. The game has changed so much over the last few years. Problem is I can see that footy players are securing their future. Loyalty means f**k all these days but I get it. Very few get into media. With Thompson I could actually see a media future. Articulate, Indigenous and a great role model. Good luck to him but our loss.
 

Overseas dragon

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Do you really think we have a viable fullback mickeylane? Love your optimism but a ball playing fullback does not pass to a winger inside their 10 metre line. What am I missing?
1 BRAINS
2 INTELLIGENCE
3 Paul McGregor instruction to DUFTY pass it to MCDONALD
4 COMMON SENSE
5 GLASSES
 

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