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Jones experiment

Is the Stacey Jones experiment a failure

  • We have no other option

    Votes: 7 12.5%
  • No, he's going good.

    Votes: 10 17.9%
  • Yes, but we can remember the good times

    Votes: 24 42.9%
  • Yes, reputation in tatters

    Votes: 15 26.8%

  • Total voters
    56

Micistm

Bench
Messages
4,470
We need a further option in the poll IMO, we should go back to what we started with this year. Fein starting at #7, Jones off the bench. That way their style doesn't clash, Jones can 'ease in' as he wanted, Fein gets the halfback role he wanted.
Makes sense to me.

Ideally, I would've stuck with the Witt/Fein from last year though, IMO it was our best option at this stage until a youngun was ready
 

Fast Eddie

First Grade
Messages
8,085
When you can't kick or tackle and your attack consists of a 1-2 cut a mile before the line........
 

WarriorDog

Juniors
Messages
151
Who can really blame Jones? If the Warriors management were stupid enough to offer him a contract, then they must take some of the blame...as long as Jones is on the paddock, the Warriors chances of making the top 8 diminishes...he is no longer the player he was...his kicking and defence today was poor. Wake up Stacey and retire now.
 

JoeD

First Grade
Messages
7,056
The problem is he is too old and everything he does is in slow motion. This doesn't help when your 6 is also quite slow and this slowness just continues along the line. As far as the poll : fail.
 
Messages
218
I wouldn't say that he's going terribly well right now, but I wouldn't call it a complete failure yet either. It's not like any of our other halves are going substantially better and demanding they get the job instead. I'd like him to start of the bench though, he's lacking zip and maybe he'll have a little more if he's 20 minutes less tired than everyone else. Start with Fein (or even Hohaia) in the 7 and bring Stacey into the game later.
 

AliN

Live Update Team
Messages
3,676
he was targeted something chronic today. Where was the support from those around him?
 

AliN

Live Update Team
Messages
3,676
he was targeted something chronic today. Where was the support from those around him?
 
Messages
705
Stacey is going alright but most of the rest have been crap, especially in the last 2 weeks. The curse of the bye strikes again and then again :(
 

Manu Vatuvei

Coach
Messages
17,146
he was targeted something chronic today. Where was the support from those around him?

Marking their own men, just as they should be. Jones defends 3 in from the sideline, obviously it becomes a problem if the centre comes to help him, as this leaves a centre unmarked, and the man defending inside Jones at least has to pay a little bit of attention to the player he's supposed to be marking. The problem is Jones can't even slow down the player running at him long enough for other defenders to come and help him.

Jones was directly at fault in 4 or 5 tries today, his defence near the line was a massive factor in the loss.
 

hlmnhnsn

Juniors
Messages
5
He is crap...it has failed..they dropped the wrong halfback for this week..
correct, he is well over his best and Fien can now laugh about it . Cleary if you are to bring Fien back to 1st grade thinking he's going to perform ...hard one because he's been shown the door . Jones can't tackle ..and with Fien, he put his body on the line all the time . Fien & Hohaia comb and Moon in the centre with Jones on the bench or premier league .
 

hlmnhnsn

Juniors
Messages
5
sucked in ...you can move on in peace Fien, you won us the Cup but these idiots don't see that and piss this kiwi old head off back to the nursing home . So disappointed ...........
 

LeagueNut

First Grade
Messages
6,978
The dream is over - Jones must go
By Peter Jessup

Stacey Jones has to go. New Zealand's league icon was charged with running the game against the Canberra Raiders yesterday, but he didn't - or couldn't.

The Raiders scored three tries in the first half by running their big forwards directly at Jones on the Warriors' right-side defence.

Despite the Aussie commentators' ongoing claims about the "huge Warriors pack", the Canberra side had three men bigger than Steve Price, the biggest Warrior.

It was Tom Learoyd-Lahrs and Dane Tilse (both 112kg) and David Shillington (111kg) who produced off-loads after running into Jones. He is not aided by the fact wing Denan Kemp is no great defender either.

The Warriors halfback (85kg) has a tackle technique of "hold on and wait for help".

When space was opened through those late and ineffective gang tackles, the Raiders fullback David Milne, young wing David Croker and five-eighth Terry Campese scored.

Other teams have seen this in too many games now for the Warriors to persist with starting the 32-year-old. His year out of the game shows in rustiness.

Yesterday in Canberra the Warriors made more kick-metres than the Raiders and produced nearly as many running metres. But they could not score when in the opposition red zone - a problem all year. The only real use for Jones might be off the bench.

Otherwise the club has three choices. They could: turn to Aaron Heremaia (25), who at least has experience in Super League if not the NRL and is playing well in leading the feeder side the Auckland Vulcans; throw in Shaun Johnson (18) who is shining in the Under-20s - his defence is also deficient but he's the same age Jones was when he made his debut in 1995; or reverse the questionable decision not to re-sign Nathan Fien.

Fien is a tough tackler, obviously capable given his 2008 performances, and perhaps needing to know his future is settled before producing his best form. He is also a great club man, so would give his best regardless of the slight in letting him look elsewhere after five years of good service to the Warriors.

The world must be coming to an end ... I agree with Jessup! :crazy:
 

Drzoidberg

Juniors
Messages
1,135
what? Jones has been awesome havent you seen all his brilliant pin point tactical kicking, his option taking is spot on.....all the halfback stuff no other halfback in the NRL can match him......Cant say a bad word about him absolute legend, Cleary does know his stuff! Is this Auckland rugby where we pick our team on their name instead of their merit
 

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