Josh Reynolds (spoilers)

[_Johnsy]

Reynolds kicks broncos player in the face

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I think Snappy is under the illusion that I'm defending Reynolds, that's certainly not the case. I hope he gets a decent stint.

However, I'm yet to see any footage that shows that he "kicked" Thaiday in the face. His right foot connects with his shoulder. I am yet to see anything that shows contact with his face. They way some Broncs fans are carrying on you would think Thaiday had 1/2 his face removed with Reynolds boot.

 

[Snappy]

Incorrect. I realise you're not defending his actions. But you're going strong with a claim that Thaiday wasn't actually kicked in the face and is nothing but a diver.

However I believe the evidence is clear he got kicked in the face.

The only people that deny the kick made contact with the face is a few posters on LU.

I don't hear Des, Josh, Sam or anyone else in the media claiming it wasn't a kick to the face.

 

[betcats]

He kicked his legs out and caught same in the face, no denying that. Thaiday himself said it wasnt intentional and he didnt seem to have any marks on his face on the footy show (hough makeup maybe covered it) so it must of been pretty soft. Thaiday certainly exagerrated the contact, doesnt mean he didnt get hit though.

 

[_Johnsy]

Incorrect. I realise you're not defending his actions. But you're going strong with a claim that Thaiday wasn't actually kicked in the face and is nothing but a diver.

However I believe the evidence is clear he got kicked in the face.

The only people that deny the kick made contact with the face is a few posters on LU.

I don't hear Des, Josh, Sam or anyone else in the media claiming it wasn't a kick to the face.

There is no doubt Sam took a dive, as the footage I have seen clearly shows only contact made with Thaidays left shoulder, not his face.

If there is clear evidence that Thaiday was kicked in the face, lets see it.

I honestly think your confusing Reynolds lashing out with his boot making contact with Thaiday, with him "kicking" Thaiday in the face. Trying to discredit others opinions, based on evidence available, because they do not like your club doesn't help your claims. It actually makes you look a tad petulant.

The last 2 instances of a blantant kick in the face that I can recall, where contact was made and also abundant evidence to support this (Slater & JT). Both players escaped without punishment. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[_Johnsy]

He kicked his legs out and caught same in the face, no denying that. Thaiday himself said it wasnt intentional and he didnt seem to have any marks on his face on the footy show (hough makeup maybe covered it) so it must of been pretty soft. Thaiday certainly exagerrated the contact, doesnt mean he didnt get hit though.

I'm yet to see anything that shows contact was made with thaidays face bets. I'm certainly not saying there was no contact with the face, but I'm yet to see anything back this up.

I'm all for suspending the merkin for the rest of the year, but you'd want something clear cut showing the kick to the face.

 

[Y2Eel]

I'm yet to see anything that shows contact was made with thaidays face bets. I'm certainly not saying there was no contact with the face, but I'm yet to see anything back this up.

I'm all for suspending the merkin for the rest of the year, but you'd want something clear cut showing the kick to the face.

I hate Third in and the Broncos as much as the next man but in that gif you can clearly see contact with face same time his right foot hits his shoulder...

Not sure if you are just trolling or not..

 

[Snappy]

Don't you think Dessie would be claiming no face contact if Reynolds boots didn't actually get Sam in the face ?

People are arguing intent and that's fine.
Again, the only people claiming it actually wasn't studs to the face is a few LU posters

 

[Bretto]

Reynolds left foot, top right boot stud, made contact with Sam's left eye.

 

[tumbidragon]

Yeah, left boot makes contact with the face, while the right mainly grazes the side of his head then onto his shoulder.

 

[perverse]

Wow, _Johnsy... I've got no idea how you can't see contact between the left boot and the face there. It's clear as day, and was even clearer on the 720p stream I watched it on.

It's very, very clear. You trollin'? I think Thaiday is a shit-eater as much as the next guy, but Reynolds obviously kicked him in the face. Shouldn't matter, Peter Wallace was allowed to kick a Knight in the face earlier in the year without punishment... and he had a much clearer view of his target than Reynolds in this instance.

Reynolds is a talentless little merkin that needs a while on the sideline.

 

[Bretto]

There's no doubt he kicks him in the face. We can see that much. However, even as a Broncos fan, it really doesn't look like there's any intent there. Doesn't even look like Reynolds can see where Thaiday is. Whether he knew he was there or not is a different thing altogether.

The trip/kick was worse.

 

[betcats]

I dont think its worth much of a suspension tbh. After reading comments here I was expecting something much worse.

The trip was bad certainly. The head high was high so i'll let them grade that but it wasnt the worst ive seen this year by a long way.

 

[perverse]

I suppose it's the fact that they all came one after the other - bang, bang, bang. The trip was definitely the worst of the lot and really is the one that needs an example made of him. The kick to the face wasn't pretty, but Thaiday shouldn't have been holding his legs, either. The head shot was pretty standard and will be graded accordingly.

I just wonder if they won't come down on him like a tonne of bricks for the fact that the sportsmanship displayed on the night was so shithouse. It was borderline bringing disrepute to the game, especially with the way he carried on after being sent off.

He put on an absolute clinic in the spirit in which our game shouldn't be played. He'll definitely see time on the sidelines for the trip alone, and it should be nearly a top grade trip. If that isn't a grade 4 or 5 trip, then nothing is and it may as well not be in the rule book. Add a grade 1 or 2 high tackle on top of that and I can see him missing 5-6 weeks easily, and that's taking the Thaiday facekick and carry on after he left the field out of it altogether.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

To be fair, Reynolds only did it because Des yelled out "sweep the leg".

 

[Kiwi]

I suppose it's the fact that they all came one after the other - bang, bang, bang. The trip was definitely the worst of the lot and really is the one that needs an example made of him. The kick to the face wasn't pretty, but Thaiday shouldn't have been holding his legs, either. The head shot was pretty standard and will be graded accordingly.

I just wonder if they won't come down on him like a tonne of bricks for the fact that the sportsmanship displayed on the night was so shithouse. It was borderline bringing disrepute to the game, especially with the way he carried on after being sent off.

He put on an absolute clinic in the spirit in which our game shouldn't be played. He'll definitely see time on the sidelines for the trip alone, and it should be nearly a top grade trip. If that isn't a grade 4 or 5 trip, then nothing is and it may as well not be in the rule book. Add a grade 1 or 2 high tackle on top of that and I can see him missing 5-6 weeks easily, and that's taking the Thaiday facekick and carry on after he left the field out of it altogether.

Trip was definitely the worst of the three. Have watched the replay of the kick out at Thaiday over and over, let's face it diving is now a part of the game ( if he dived which I don't think he did ), and lifting the legs as well ( which gets penalised depending on the ref ). I will say this about it, players have their legs held over and over again in games, it happens probably 30+ times a game to each side, you don't see others kick out like that, if he hadn't kicked out there is probably a high chance he gets the penalty his way for the delaying tactics. Deserves 1 - 2 weeks for lashing out with his legs like that, the trip deserves 3 - 4 weeks, and if he gets a week for the high tackle it'll only be because of his prior suspension and the other two incidents from the game. I honestly would not be surprised to see him just called before the judiciary to find out his fate.

 

[oikee]

Grub by name, grub by nature.
You reap what you sow.
At the crossroads, you walk the path you intend to travel.
Queensland was robbed of a try by Thaiday, we never lost origin.
When Cronk returned we gave yous a good thrashing.

They should call him scrooge, his chain is a mile long and he keeps on tugging it.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

There's no doubt he kicks him in the face. We can see that much. However, even as a Broncos fan, it really doesn't look like there's any intent there. Doesn't even look like Reynolds can see where Thaiday is. Whether he knew he was there or not is a different thing altogether.

The trip/kick was worse.

Not sure why this keeps being brought up. Intent or not, it was certainly reckless, and his left boot certainly strikes Thirdman in the face (to which Thirdman reacts like he was shot by a sniper behind the grassy knoll).

You can throw swinging arms all game, but if they hit the opposition in the chest, or they sail over their heads, there is no problem. The same goes with tripping, and the same goes with kicking out in the tackle. Its certainly not illegal "if you miss", but in the case of kicking out in the tackle, when you do so recklessly and you get someone in the face (particularly when the tackler is standing so upright), then you should have an issue at the judiciary. Keep in mind that usually when someone lashes out in a tackle and the kick the tackler, its when the tackler is on the ground, not standing up.

 

[Bretto]

Not sure why this keeps being brought up. Intent or not, it was certainly reckless, and his left boot certainly strikes Thirdman in the face (to which Thirdman reacts like he was shot by a sniper behind the grassy knoll).

You can throw swinging arms all game, but if they hit the opposition in the chest, or they sail over their heads, there is no problem. The same goes with tripping, and the same goes with kicking out in the tackle. Its certainly not illegal "if you miss", but in the case of kicking out in the tackle, when you do so recklessly and you get someone in the face (particularly when the tackler is standing so upright), then you should have an issue at the judiciary. Keep in mind that usually when someone lashes out in a tackle and the kick the tackler, its when the tackler is on the ground, not standing up.

I agree with you and I've said it in numerous threads before, an injury shouldn't dictate the severity of the punishment for the action. Meaning, a spear tackle should be charged as one, regardless of the outcome/injury to a player. The Reynolds tackle on Tate in Origin is a perfect example.

My point was simply that I don't think he meant to do it (kick Thaiday in the face). I'm not speaking in relation to the charge that he may receive, or using it as a scape goat, I'm simply making the point. Whether that makes it better or worse as to what actually occurred is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion.

For the record, if I was the MRC, I'd give him 8 weeks straight up for the trip and he can fight the other two if he pleases, but I'd charge him with a Grade 2 Kick for the Thaiday incident and a Grade 2 Careless High Tackle for the Glenn incident, but the Barba incident doesn't get graded, it's just 8 weeks.

 

[betcats]

I'd give him about 5 weeks for everything. Im guessing he's got some points already so call it 6. There is no logic behind that, just what I feel he should get.

 

[perverse]

If we're all being absolutely fair dinkum, he should probably have a week or 2 taken off his suspension for the kick on Third Man In.