JT on Injury Prevention and Management

[The Rosco]

Some of you guys have no idea regarding reality. You know what a recovery date is - its an estimate which is a prediction of the future.

I can't be bothered discussing this anymore as its pointless. Lets just hope that we get a better run with injuries and the team wins more than their fair share of games.

. . Sure it's an estimate, but an estimate based on those doctors seeing hundreds of the same injury over time. Then using that repeated experience to say that injury X takes 6 weeks till they can run on it, and another 2-3 weeks till they can play.
We know that a broken leg will heal in 8 weeks coz there have been thousands of broken legs and that's how long they take.

The problem with some of the WT past injuries is that they should only be a 3 week injury, and because of poor practise/ dud recovery staff/etc, the injury goes from 3 weeks, to 4, to 6, etc, etc.
I lost count of the times Moussa changed his story on player injuries on his weekly interview on the WT website.:lol:
First saying it's a routine sprain that will take 2 weeks. Then at 3 weeks it becomes a high syndismosis, which needs a different treatment regime.
Then at 5 weeks it becomes a difficult ligament retraction issue ( or some other bullshit term), then again . . .oops, new treatment needed.

I spoke to Paterson at training when he had the hand injury. At that stage, he had been out for around 3 -4 weeks, IIRC. He was frustrated that what was originally diagnosed as a simple sprain ended up as well over a month on the sidelines. He mentioned the many different paths of treatment.
Only God knows what really happened with the Tank's ankle.
And how ironic that the NRL is releasing a "report card" on each team's ability to manage injuries. No points for guessing who would come stone motherless in that list !!!

 

[madunit]

I think that this is interesting. I work in a field where data and facts play an important role. You can't just state an opinion and have everyone believe you. You have to state these are the facts.

I also love watching the UFC. Guys get injured in that all the time. They also take steroids all the time. They take steroids I think because it allows them to train a lot harder and get over injuries quicker. I'm skeptical when it comes to people stating you just change your diet or do some more stretching and then everything is good to go.

Ok. I see the issue now.

You have absolutely no idea what a strength and conditioning coach does, or the consequences of having either no s &c coach, or having unqualified ones.

Hence your scepticism.

We can all move on now.

 

[Tiger05]

We can all move on now.

That is a good idea.

 

[Fordy20]

I don't know if my memory is a little clouded on this but I believe part of our problem the past few years is not just the staff who worked on our injured players rehabilitiation but also our staff responsible for overall fitness.

I have no facts/statistics to back this up but when Folkes was running our fitness/conditioning I don't recall so many injuries, certainly not like we have experienced the past few years. I maybe wrong but he seemed to have them toughened for a whole season.

If there is a new brush in this whole area of rehabilitation/fitness lets hope we can keep the core of our team fit and on the field....

MU crunched some numbers on this one, but I can't seem to find the link so Ill just dump the data below. NB: 2011 was the last year Steve Folkes was at the Tigers.

2011 - Number of players who played every game:

Parramatta - 5
Canterbury, Brisbane, Tigers - 4
Souths, Manly, Cronulla, Nth Qld, Warriors, Canberra - 3
Roosters, Gold Coast - 2
Melbourne, Newcastle, Penrith, Dragons - 1

2012 - Number of players who played every game

Canterbury, Warriors - 6
Roosters, Souths, Manly, Nth Qld, Brisbane - 4
Melbourne, Newcastle, Dragons, Tigers - 3
Canberra, Parramatta - 2
Cronulla, Gold Coast, Penrith - 1

2013 - Number of players who played every game

Canterbury - 6
Warriors, Penrith - 4
Roosters, Brisbane, Dragons, Parramatta - 3
Cronulla, Souths, Manly, Newcastle, Nth Qld, Canberra - 2
Melbourne, Gold Coast, Tigers - 1

2011 - Number of players who played 20 games or more

Dragons, Manly - 15
Warriors, Nth Qld - 13
Souths, Melbourne, Tigers - 12
Penrith, Parramatta - 11
Brisbane, Newcastle - 10
Canterbury, Roosters, Cronulla - 9
Canberra - 8
Gold Coast - 7

2012 - Number of players who played 20 games or more

Souths, Melbourne, Brisbane - 14
Manly, Canterbury, Canberra - 13
Nth Qld - 12
Warriors, Tigers, Cronulla - 11
Dragons, Parramatta, Newcastle, Gold Coast - 10
Roosters - 9
Penrith - 8

2013 - Number of players who played 20 games or more

Roosters - 17
Cronulla - 14
Souths, Melbourne, Manly - 13
Warriors - 12
Centerbury, Newcastle - 11
Brisbane, Nth Qld, Dragons - 10
Canberra, Penrith - 9
Parramatta, Gold Coast - 8
Tigers- 5

2011 - Number of players who played less than 10 games

Manly - 4
Melbourne - 6
Canberra, Souths - 7
Brisbane - 8
Dragons, Warriors - 9
Cronulla - 10
Tigers, Penrith, Nth Qld, Canterbury, Roosters - 11
Gold Coast, Newcastle - 14
Parramatta - 15

2012 - Number of players who played less than 10 games

Manly - 4
Melbourne, Souths, Cronulla - 5
Nth Qld, Canterbury - 7
Canberra, Parramatta - 8
Dragons, Tigers - 9
Roosters, Gold Coast - 10
Brisbane, Penrith, Newcastle - 11
Warriors - 12

2013 - Number of players who played less than 10 games

Roosters - 6
Souths, Canterbury, Brisbane - 7
Manly, Melbourne, Newcastle - 8
Warriors - 9
Cronulla, Dragons, Gold Coast - 10
Nth Qld, Penrith - 11
Canberra - 12
Parramatta - 13
Tigers - 15

 

[Ron's_Mate]

Halfback Luke Brooks proves he's the one calling the shots at the Wests Tigers

Michael Chammas
Published: March 13, 2015 - 7:53PM

Last Saturday night's one-point win against the Titans was the first real indication that Luke Brooks had developed the confidence and authority to dictate terms as the general of the Wests Tigers.

For so long, skipper Robbie Farah and former five-eighth Benji Marshall had called the shots at the joint-venture club.

But in the dying moments of the round one match against the Gold Coast, Brooks made it clear there was a new sheriff in town by orchestrating the match-winning play.

"To be honest I didn't even know Patty [Richards] was lined up behind me," Farah said.

"I was just giving the ball to Brooksy. I thought he was going to take the shot. He obviously passed it back to Patty and for us to execute that, especially under pressure, is pleasing to know we can come up with those sorts of plays."

Brooks might not have taken the snap that gave the Tigers the two points, but the vision and unselfishness to do what was required to get the team over the line was a genuine sign of maturity and development.

Most of the play-makers who have played alongside Farah and Marshall over the years have struggled to voice their authority, but Brooks looks to be the exception.

It's not only Brooks, however, who is high on confidence after a pre-season under the Jason Taylor regime.

"I don't want to compare but it's a really good feel at the moment," Farah said.

"Everyone is really enjoying coming in and training everyday. Things are going well, everyone is working hard and we're learning. All the young kids are taking in what JT and the coaching staff are trying to do and believing in the system. I think that shows.

"It hasn't just been JT coming in. It's a new strength and conditioning program and coaches and trainers. The way they've done things in the gym has been a lot different. The way they've done things out on the field is a lot different. It hasn't just been one person coming in, it's the overhaul of the whole program."

As part of that overhaul, the TIgers have also restructured their training and rehabilitation program to try to avoid a repeat of the number of major injuries that plagued the club for the past two seasons.

While Farah admits he's feeling fresh as a result, he believes the real benefits of the change won't be seen until the business end of the year.

"That'll tell over the course of the season," Farah said.

"Everyone feels good in round one and two, but you'll start to see the impacts of what we're doing probably round 15 to round 20 during the hard slog of the year. Hopefully that's when we'll start to see the benefits of it later in the season."

The Tigers got off to a sluggish start in their opening-round match against the Titans, still adapting to Taylor's game plan.

But Farah insists there were glimpses of brilliance among some of the disharmony, adamant it wouldn't be long before it all came together.

"JT's come in with a game plan that's completely different to what we did last year," Farah said.

"It's very structured and very specific to the way he wants to play. We're learning to adapt to that. You probably saw in round one last week there were times we struggled with it. But you saw at other times it clicked and we looked really good.

"That's something we'll continue to work through and it will be weeks before you see us really flowing in attack. We believe in it and once we do finally nail it, it will be pretty."


This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...hots-at-the-wests-tigers-20150313-142yjs.html