Judiciary Charges 2019

[skeepe]

How long until Asofa-Solomona is finally pulled up for this shit?

 

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In less than a week we see Asofa Solomona not even get charged for deliberate crusher tackle and TPJ get sin binned & a grade 2. Work that out?

 

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No charge for this though:

I’m probably biased, but every time I watch this I genuinely cringe, but I don’t have the same reaction to TPJ on Maloney. One looks coached, the other looks accidental from a player looking to complete a tackle he fell off of and gets the timing wrong. Don’t get me wrong, he should have been charged, but how is Solomona not?

 

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[simmo05]

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Is intent necessary for a charge to be sustained?

Would have thought if it was intentional, the charge would be reckless? It would be almost be impossible to accidentally perform a crusher tackle. These tackles are so f**king dangerous, i cannot believe they dont attract the same penalties as a deliberate spear tackle. Isnt 1 broken neck enough for the nrl?

 

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Luke Brooks (Wests Tigers)
8th minute, Grade 1 Contrary Conduct on Jack Gosiewski
Base penalty $1500 fine
1 x non-similar prior offence last 2 years (20% loading)
Guilty / no contest $1800 fine
Early guilty plea $1350 fine
PLEA: Guilty - early plea
OUTCOME: $1350 fine

Michael Jennings (Eels)
3rd minute, Grade 1 Tripping on Kevin Proctor
Base penalty $1500 fine
1 x non-similar prior offence last 2 years (20% loading)
Guilty / no contest $1800 fine
Early guilty plea $1350 fine
PLEA: Guilty - early plea
OUTCOME: $1350 fine

Jake Turpin (Broncos)
8th minute, Grade 2 Dangerous Contact (head/neck) on Dylan Edwards
Base penalty 300 points
Guilty / no contest 300 points (3 matches)
Early guilty plea 225 points (2 matches)
PLEA: Guilty - early plea
OUTCOME: Suspended 2 matches. 25 carryover points accrued.

Tevita Pangai (Broncos)
79th minute, Grade 2 Dangerous Contact (head/neck) on James Maloney
Base penalty 300 points
3 x non-similar prior offences last 2 years (60% loading)
75 carryover points to add
Guilty / no contest 480+75=555 points (5 matches)
Early guilty plea 360+75=435 points (4 matches)
PLEA: Guilty - disputes grading
OUTCOME: TBC - judiciary hearing Tuesday PM.

Anthony Milford (Broncos)
37th minute, Grade 1 Tripping on Nathan Cleary
Base penalty $1500 fine
Guilty / no contest $1500 fine
Early guilty plea $1150 fine
PLEA: Guilty - early plea
OUTCOME: $1150 fine

Aiden Tolman (Bulldogs)
25th minute, Grade 1 Dangerous Contact (other) on Cameron Murray
Base penalty 100 points
Guilty / no contest 100 points (1 match)
Early guilty plea 75 points (0 matches)
PLEA: Guilty - early plea
OUTCOME: No suspension. 75 carryover points accrued.

Cameron Munster (Storm)
63rd minute, Grade 1 Dangerous Contact (other) on Iosia Soliola
Base penalty 100 points
1 x non-similar prior offence last 2 years (20% loading)
Guilty / no contest 120 points (1 match)
Early guilty plea 90 points (0 matches)
PLEA: Guilty - early plea
OUTCOME: No suspension. 90 carryover points accrued.

Joseph Tapine (Raiders)
16th minute, Grade 1 Contrary Conduct on Nelson Asofa-Solomona
Base penalty $1500 fine
Guilty / no contest $1500 fine
Early guilty plea $1150 fine
PLEA: Guilty - early plea
OUTCOME: $1150 fine

Jazz Tevaga (Warriors)
62nd minute, Grade 1 Dangerous Contact (other)
Base penalty 100 points
Guilty / no contest 100 points (1 match)
Early guilty plea 75 points (0 matches)
PLEA: TBC
OUTCOME: TBC

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[Cockadoodledoo]

How long until Asofa-Solomona is finally pulled up for this shit?

When do they pull up Jordan Rapana?

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

I’m probably biased, but every time I watch this I genuinely cringe, but I don’t have the same reaction to TPJ on Maloney. One looks coached, the other looks accidental from a player looking to complete a tackle he fell off of and gets the timing wrong. Don’t get me wrong, he should have been charged, but how is Solomona not?

Yes you are biased, TPJ’s was deliberate and Siebold coaches these, see last years preliminary final if you want evidence. He coaches his forwards to take opposition playmakers out of the game with dog shots.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

Can't charge Emperor Smith for trying to rip the blokes ears off, it'd be a bad look for the cooooooooooooooooooddddd....

 

[League Unlimited News]

Can't charge Emperor Smith for trying to rip the blokes ears off, it'd be a bad look for the cooooooooooooooooooddddd....

Smith was sent a concerning act notice by the NRL - https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...ed-concerning-act-notice-20190819-p52ild.html

 

[Frailty]

Can't charge Emperor Smith for trying to rip the blokes ears off, it'd be a bad look for the cooooooooooooooooooddddd....

Except when you watch the video he clearly has a hold of his jersey, not the ear...

 

[Fangs]

Is this the worst the judiciary has ever been?

We've always had inconsistencies but this year has been notably shithouse.

 

[Frailty]

How long until Asofa-Solomona is finally pulled up for this shit?

Of all the instances, you chose to screen cap the one where it's his ball carrying arm?
I get you're trying to make a point, but come on.

 

[Frailty]

Is this the worst the judiciary has ever been?

We've always had inconsistencies but this year has been notably shithouse.

Match Review Committee or Judiciary - they are separate groups.

According to media - yes.

In reality - no it isn't.

 

[Fangs]

Of all the instances, you chose to screen cap the one where it's his ball carrying arm?
I get you're trying to make a point, but come on.

Bad picture. But Solomona needs 10 weeks if he raises his forearm again. Injury to the defender or not. It's a stupid act and he will break someone's jaw.

 

[Fangs]

Match Review Committee or Judiciary - they are separate groups.

According to media - yes.

In reality - no it isn't.

Right, I guess I understand now. We have a siloed process. Probably with 'interpretations' from different people on both panels.

You can just see it all break down. Does Toby on the front desk send out the infringement letters? Or is Carol still doing that?

I know how to fix it, get more rugby league players in there! That'll sort it out.

 

[Diesel]

Smith was sent a concerning act notice by the NRL - https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...ed-concerning-act-notice-20190819-p52ild.html

Yet the Warriors are the team with most referrals to the MRC.
They probably aren’t the cleanest team in the league but they are definitely under the microscope for whatever reason, yet the NRL allows the rules to be manipulated by the Storm without too many consequences

 

[Diesel]

Bad picture. But Solomona needs 10 weeks if he raises his forearm again. Injury to the defender or not. It's a stupid act and he will break someone's jaw.

If it happens, Todd will send the Storm a gift, probably diamond earrings to match a certain ring

 

[Frailty]

Bad picture. But Solomona needs 10 weeks if he raises his forearm again. Injury to the defender or not. It's a stupid act and he will break someone's jaw.

Don't be absurd. It needs to be addressed, but the 10 weeks is excessive, and he is simply not the only player in the league that is doing it.

 

[Frailty]

Right, I guess I understand now. We have a siloed process. Probably with 'interpretations' from different people on both panels.

You can just see it all break down. Does Toby on the front desk send out the infringement letters? Or is Carol still doing that?

I know how to fix it, get more rugby league players in there! That'll sort it out.

The Match Review Committee and the Judiciary Panel are separate, because that the most objective way. In the 'real world' the MRC is like the Police Prosecutor, whilst the Judiciary is the court. It's purposely designed to maintain objectivity and fairness.

As for the 'more rugby league players in there', I'm not sure whether that is tongue in cheek as both the MRC and Judiciary have former players. In fact, I believe the MRC is all former players.