The Game Judiciary & Match Review charges - 2022 season

[Iamback]

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But what will cause him real concern is that only two weeks ago, the NRL warned all clubs about the dangers of hip drop tackles, in which a player is held by two tacklers and then a third player comes in around the waist and pulls him to the ground, causing major damage to legs, knees or ankles.

Pretty sure guys have been hit with fines as a single tackler, Though in theory clears up the confusion about the Tatola tackle

 

[Frailty]

Right, so the different between Nikora's two week "hip drop" and Tatola's is literally Bromwich touches another player (not just gets in contact with the half that has no impact with Bromwich's momentum).

It's the exact same mechanism in the tackle - I didn't think Nikora deserved a ban and don't think Tatola's should either. But if they want to be consistent, they should be charged and graded the same.

 

[Iamback]

cRight, so the different between Nikora's two week "hip drop" and Tatola's is literally Bromwich touches another player (not just gets in contact with the half that has no impact with Bromwich's momentum).

It's the exact same mechanism in the tackle - I didn't think Nikora deserved a ban and don't think Tatola's should either. But if they want to be consistent, they should be charged and graded the same.

Other player being involved matters though, changes the momentum of the tackle

Nikora you can see he twists, If the top tackler isn't there it is play on.
Tatola one is a good old fashioned legs tackle, The angle of the tackle combined with him passing it leads to the injury

 

[no name]

What an absolute clusterf**k the MRC is.
Patten has come out to defend the non charge of NAS.

The MRC defended their decision, with coordinator Luke Patten speaking after the call.

“There was clear separation between Asofa-Solomona’s arm and the head of Wayde Egan as the players went to ground,” Patten told AAP.

“His arm lands on Egan’s chest on a diagonal and makes incidental contact with his head after the ground impact.

“As a result, the MRC cleared the tackle of involving either a head slam or a dangerous action.”

Johns unleashes on MRC after Asofa-Solomona escapes punishment

The incident left Wayde Egan with a number of broken teeth.

www.zerotackle.com

Not only did they f**k the decision up, they told the whole world how they f**ked the decision up.

 

[Saxon]

Any reason Tatola wasn't charged for this blatant hip drop that has now put Kennedy out for 5-6 weeks?

I'm guessing because it wasn't a Sharks player and/or Fitzgibbon didn't have a cry in the post-game presser.

For reference, Nikora got suspended 2 weeks for this:

First one is a one on one tackle

 

[Saxon]

"It was a dog shot… and the referee didn't even want to do anything about it," a Tigers source told Wide World of Sports.

"It was only when Jackson was screaming in pain on the ground and (skipper) James Tamou abused the referee for not taking action that the Bunker got involved."

This is the bit that gets me about it all. Tamou had to abuse the ref to get the game stopped.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

Watch Carrigan get 6+ weeks for something that wasn't even a real hip drop just because Hastings has a broken leg.

 

[Captain Apollo]

NRL's rare move to explain 'laughable' decision

Offers bizarre 'video evidence' excuse

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[Penrose Warrior]

NRL's rare move to explain 'laughable' decision

Offers bizarre 'video evidence' excuse

wwos.nine.com.au

That is the most stupid f**king thing I have ever read. Luke Patten clearly as cross-eyed as he ever was, if not more.

Minor contact with his neck and chin? MINOR CONTACT? The guy's f**king teeth broke - he held him up and literally slammed him down with a people's elbow to follow. How the f**k is that minor contact? You can see the ridiculous force he does that with, he actually arches his back to create further force. And Patten talks about his left arm, it's irrelevant. That's not the arm that f**ks Egan up. It's the right arm that literally breaks his teeth. You reckon that happens with (in Patten's words) 'possible minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson’s forearm to possibly the neck and chin area'?

I'm so wild about this. These f**king idiots have no idea.

 

[beave]

The non citing of NAS is a f**king joke.

 

[kit66]

That is the most stupid f**king thing I have ever read. Luke Patten clearly as cross-eyed as he ever was, if not more.

Minor contact with his neck and chin? MINOR CONTACT? The guy's f**king teeth broke - he held him up and literally slammed him down with a people's elbow to follow. How the f**k is that minor contact? You can see the ridiculous force he does that with, he actually arches his back to create further force. And Patten talks about his left arm, it's irrelevant. That's not the arm that f**ks Egan up. It's the right arm that literally breaks his teeth. You reckon that happens with (in Patten's words) 'possible minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson’s forearm to possibly the neck and chin area'?

I'm so wild about this. These f**king idiots have no idea.

Storm must have really good lawyers, they challenge most charges and nearly always get off lightly or altogether.

The judiciary will penalize the sh*t out of anything accidental but seem to give benefit of the doubt to the most deliberate and malicious acts imaginable. JWH, fined, and Solomona walks.

Carrigan deserves everything he gets, stupid tackle.

 

[mxlegend99]

It is ridiculous that accidentally making a tackle that might have hurt someone can get a serious fine (not an issue with this side of it, punishment is meant to deter players from doing it).

But intentionally doing stuff that actually does hurt someone is absolutely fine. Nothing to see here. Oh he had a few teeth knocked out from forcefully being slammed into the ground with his elbow? No issue as the contact was minimal because at some point his elbow seperated from the head before knocking his teeth out.

How is what NAS did not comparable to what Barnett copped 7 weeks for? Intentional elbow to the neck / jaw. NAS just made a lot more forceful contact dropping his weight into it and using the ground to make sure his head took 100% of the force.

 

[Fangs]

NAS is unbelievably lucky. That is probably the most deplorable MRC decision of the year so far. Egan and the Warriors should be filthy.

 

[TheDMC]

NAS is unbelievably lucky. That is probably the most deplorable MRC decision of the year so far. Egan and the Warriors should be filthy.

Yeah it is a shocker and we are filthy, but not at all surprised. Kafusi getting off two intentional similar type tackles earlier in the year just as bad. Unlike the judiciary, NAS and Kafusi knew exactly what they were doing...

 

[blaza88z]

Surely the people defending Carrigan tonight just walk in with the footage of what Nathan Cleary did to Billy Walters

He got a fine for that, that's all he got. Just because Hastings has a broken leg as a result of the tackle shouldn't be what determines the punishment, it will be though, sadly

What's the difference? if anything Nathan's was worse as he was the only person in the tackle and had full control over where Billy could end up

 

[Penrose Warrior]

NAS is unbelievably lucky. That is probably the most deplorable MRC decision of the year so far. Egan and the Warriors should be filthy.

We are filthy, or as fans we are.

Lucky Wayde Egan is as tough as nails and has brushed it off.

How is what NAS did not comparable to what Barnett copped 7 weeks for? Intentional elbow to the neck / jaw. NAS just made a lot more forceful contact dropping his weight into it and using the ground to make sure his head took 100% of the force.

It is comparable - it's on the same scale. I'd argue NAS' was more dangerous. His whole weight, 120kgs or whatever, with the point of his elbow forcing into Egan's face and against the ground. Both were 100% intentional.

Honestly, how the f**k can you get 7 weeks for one and none for the other. I'd give NAS 6 weeks. I dunno if I'm biased but as someone rightly pointed out before, there are people getting 3-4 weeks for unintentional, accidental, clumsy etc yet this, which we all know was intentional, gets nothing. Honestly.

Luke Patten might've played 280 NRL games but he needs a guide dog at the MRP.

 

[mxlegend99]

What's the difference? if anything Nathan's was worse as he was the only person in the tackle and had full control over where Billy could end up

With only one person in the tackle it's a lot harder to bring someone down and there's less control of the tackle... one player is fighting to make a tackle, the other is fighting to break it. Unless you're a much bigger bloke on a much smaller bloke it's really not that easy to control how the tackle will end up unless the attacking player surrenders.

With multiple people in the tackle it requires a lot less work from each player to make the tackle and it's not necessary to use your body weight to bring the player to the ground. There's a reason the NRL warned against that specifically. Between that warning and injury playing part in the length of the suspension, he's really probably going to get the upper end of suspensions for the tackle. Though suspensions for even the worst acts aren't that bad these days.


Like the absolute worst suspension of the season is 7 games for an intentional elbow to an opponents head/jaw. 15 or so weeks later the same thing isn't even worth a fine. So if Fuimaono copped 5 weeks in the trials. It's probably 3 or 4 weeks now.

 

[Leaguenutter]

The MRC is an absolute joke. A farce, It's not that hard ffs! Honestly the game has to be losing viewers by the week. No merkin knows wtf is going on including all the officials, coaches, players & supporters.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Surely the people defending Carrigan tonight just walk in with the footage of what Nathan Cleary did to Billy Walters

He got a fine for that, that's all he got. Just because Hastings has a broken leg as a result of the tackle shouldn't be what determines the punishment, it will be though, sadly

What's the difference? if anything Nathan's was worse as he was the only person in the tackle and had full control over where Billy could end up

I suspect the difference is Billy didn't come out of it with a broken leg?

 

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