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The Game Judiciary & Match Review charges - 2022 season

Lebbo73

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Isn't it? Is that applied to every case (genuine question)? Because the original decision didn't have it applied, only the judicial hearing
Suspensions should always only be for actions on a field that are aimed at illegally injuring someone. Grubby acts should be a fine only with increasing amounts only. A lot of what we’re seeing in regards to suspensions and fines should not even be charged at the judiciary.
95% of the thuggery disappeared 20 years ago or more. Why do some fans want players rubbed out of the game for incidental or accidental clashes?
 

Chimp

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Suspensions should always only be for actions on a field that are aimed at illegally injuring someone. Grubby acts should be a fine only with increasing amounts only. A lot of what we’re seeing in regards to suspensions and fines should not even be charged at the judiciary.
95% of the thuggery disappeared 20 years ago or more. Why do some fans want players rubbed out of the game for incidental or accidental clashes?
Absolutely agree with this. Suspensions should be for deliberate or serious acts of foul play and as such, should also be sent from the field. I can’t get my head around how an incident can be deemed worthy of a multiple week suspension, but not a send off at the time.
As an example, I’d say 90% of ‘crushers’ are accidental, often the ‘fault’ of the attacker, they should not even be penalised - however the ones where players visibly drop their weight onto the neck absolutely should be a send off and suspension.
A player attempting a legitimate tackle that ends up with accidental head contact (eg Finucane, or where the attacker slips) should be a penalty at best. Players deliberately or recklessly attacking the head (shoulder charge gone wrong, swinging arm etc) - red card and suspend.
It should be really simple.
 

yobbo84

Coach
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What the actual f**k.... poor Mat Croker

What even is Rugby League any more
 

lockyno1

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What the actual f**k.... poor Mat Croker

What even is Rugby League any more

it’s unlucky but boy I’m glad they are trying to stamp this rubbish tackling technique out of the game it’s causing major injuries
 

skeepe

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Lol meanwhile Zane Musgrove hit with a wet lettuce leaf for a deliberate forearm to the back of the head that he had to dive back over the tackle to do.

Not to mention that he had hold of Horsburgh’s leg at the time so could have caused some serious damage
 

yobbo84

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it’s unlucky but boy I’m glad they are trying to stamp this rubbish tackling technique out of the game it’s causing major injuries
LOL please he fell off a tackle, absolute nothing wrong with it and happens 100 times a match
 

Frailty

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LOL please he fell off a tackle, absolute nothing wrong with it and happens 100 times a match
He did not "fall off the tackle". He literally turns his hips and loses his feet before he lost his grip on Talakai. It was a matter of "oh no, I'm not going to stop him, this is the only way". Just like a forward sticking an arm out when he is stepped.
 

Frailty

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Garbage suspension that. How does Croker bring him down in that position?
If he can’t do it legally, are you suggesting he should be allowed to by any means necessary?

Good news cover defenders, if a winger is diving to score in a corner - feel free to shoulder charge or give a swinging arm to his head. “How else is he meant to stop the try?”.

It is the tackler’s responsibility to make a legal tackle. Croker didn’t.
 

gerg

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Lol meanwhile Zane Musgrove hit with a wet lettuce leaf for a deliberate forearm to the back of the head that he had to dive back over the tackle to do.

Not to mention that he had hold of Horsburgh’s leg at the time so could have caused some serious damage

Just covering their own arses because they've let NAS get away with it all year.
 

Iamback

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If he can’t do it legally, are you suggesting he should be allowed to by any means necessary?

Good news cover defenders, if a winger is diving to score in a corner - feel free to shoulder charge or give a swinging arm to his head. “How else is he meant to stop the try?”.

It is the tackler’s responsibility to make a legal tackle. Croker didn’t.

Where does it say what is specified as a hip drop?

A few weeks ago, You guys played Souths and there was a tackle by Kennedy I think on Tatola. Very similar to the tackle above.

No suspension and was the correct call. As it is one on one and until they specify a hip drop you can't expect much more.

So now to the question from above. What does the defender do differently to not get suspended
 

Iamback

Referee
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LOL please he fell off a tackle, absolute nothing wrong with it and happens 100 times a match

Until they specify a hip drop happen 1000 times more.

The Carrigan one is easier to stamp out. Just have 3rd man in have to stay above the waist but 1 on 1?

Can't go the head. Now can't go the waist either?
 

Frailty

First Grade
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Where does it say what is specified as a hip drop?

A few weeks ago, You guys played Souths and there was a tackle by Kennedy I think on Tatola. Very similar to the tackle above.

No suspension and was the correct call. As it is one on one and until they specify a hip drop you can't expect much more.

So now to the question from above. What does the defender do differently to not get suspended
It has NEVER been a requirement for a tackle to be more than one on one to be a hip drop. There were a number of one on one tackles suspended earlier in the season (and at least on in preseason) that were one on one.

Graham Annesley had identified a couple of things that are typical of hip drop tackles:
- Player has hold of player from waist and above.
- Tackler “leaves his feet”. The Tatola example was not suspended or charged because his feet were on the ground.
-Tackler turns their hips and drops their weight.

So why was Croker suspended? Look at what he does with his feet and hips - he turns and leaves his feet. Before he leaves his feet, both of them are turned and on the one side, which doesn’t make sense unless he is making a hip drop tackle. A normal tackle from the side/behind (even if missed and falling) would see him fall frontside down.
 

Frailty

First Grade
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Until they specify a hip drop happen 1000 times more.

The Carrigan one is easier to stamp out. Just have 3rd man in have to stay above the waist but 1 on 1?

Can't go the head. Now can't go the waist either?
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“Waist”
 

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