Junior Development and Reward for Clubs

[shiznit]

Yeah na. I doubt that Gus would give a rat's if Bennet wrote a column about the Merrin situation. Everyone else has had their say.
Yeah, he had to import some players (Taylor, Segs, Sowie etc.) to get Penrith out of the deep shit they were in, but he has a genuine plan to concentrate on producing first graders. Even if they don't win another comp for 30 years, his real legacy will be a top 25 made up of mostly Penrith juniors. It'll take time, but he's not just talking rubbish. The systems are already in place and will continue post-Gus.

Edit- I think Gus does a pretty good job of keeping his media and club commitments separate.

A few points...

- no one associated with any of the other clubs have made comment about The Panthers and how much of the cap Trent Merrin will be taking up. That would be unprofessional and quite frankly none of there business. Which is my whole point.

- Gus can't have it both ways... He can't go whinging in the media that clubs deserve consideration for the years of development they put in to a player only to be taken by another club... When he's guilty of doing exactly the same thing.

That was a terrible column,..

 

[betcats]

A few points...

- no one associated with any of the other clubs have made comment about The Panthers and how much of the cap Trent Merrin will be taking up. That would be unprofessional and quite frankly none of there business. Which is my whole point.

- Gus can't have it both ways... He can't go whinging in the media that clubs deserve consideration for the years of development they put in to a player only to be taken by another club... When he's guilty of doing exactly the same thing.

That was a terrible column,..

Every club signs palyers from elsewhere, just because Gus has doesnt mean he cant see the need for compentsation for clubs developing them. People discuss other clubs caps all the time, watch nrl 360, you have players and coaches on 3 nights every week discussing the latest signings and salary cap etc you just dont like that Gus called RTS signing a risk imo so you take aim at his credibility.

 

[franklin2323]

NRL should fund clubs u18 and u20 programs.trade off would be a national draft players could nominate for at 19/20. Let's see how happy Gus would be then lol.

Lets use Waqa Blake as an example. We signed him he was very RAW still terrible in defence 3 years later. Where does he go? Does the NRL choose? If so what if the club doesn't rate him and not play him? What if the kid is trouble off the field can the club sack him? Too many issues with a centralised funding model

 

[franklin2323]

I see waqa blake had a good game for the panthers yesterday. Gus doesn't sem to mind picking up players from other development systems.

Same issue with Nabuli. We have plenty of recruits that we want to mould to our style

 

[POPEYE]

All the NRL need do is force every club to spend a required amount developing juniors, doesn't matter if it's a thousand miles away or next door. If a club happens to be in a large catchment area and local junior clubs want to do their thing so be it. Any junior club anywhere is entitled to ask the NRL for a handout if it is not aided by an NRL club

All 'junior' means is 'young', not f**king 'ball and chain'. Players need to be found from the remotest areas and those areas need promoting. Clubs sitting on their arse and expecting mums and dads to owe them allegiance is carcinogenic

 

[shiznit]

People discuss other clubs caps all the time, watch nrl 360, you have players and coaches on 3 nights every week discussing the latest signings and salary cap etc you just dont like that Gus called RTS signing a risk imo so you take aim at his credibility.

Bullshit....

Name another club CEO/GM who's come out publicly and questioned the amount of cap space another clubs new signing has taken up.

Its none of Gus' business what the Warriors use there cap on... Different clubs place different values on certain positions based on the type of talent they readily produce.

Gus knows that... What he was doing was taking a subtle shot at the Warriors on behalf of his mates at the Roosters.

As for if its a risk... It's hardly a risk... RTS is being paid what Tomkins was getting.

 

[franklin2323]

As for if its a risk... It's hardly a risk... RTS is being paid what Tomkins was getting.

Which Gus said was overs when he was shopped to us.

Bottom line is he is a Journo and commentator also. He's doing his job commenting

 

[franklin2323]

All the NRL need do is force every club to spend a required amount developing juniors, doesn't matter if it's a thousand miles away or next door. If a club happens to be in a large catchment area and local junior clubs want to do their thing so be it. Any junior club anywhere is entitled to ask the NRL for a handout if it is not aided by an NRL club

All 'junior' means is 'young', not f**king 'ball and chain'. Players need to be found from the remotest areas and those areas need promoting. Clubs sitting on their arse and expecting mums and dads to owe them allegiance is carcinogenic

Roosters have their beaks in pretty much every district. You don't win the u18's with no development. It's a myth teams spend nothing on juniors

 

[shiznit]

Which Gus said was overs when he was shopped to us.

Bottom line is he is a Journo and commentator also. He's doing his job commenting

Overs to you perhaps... Every clubs situation is different.

That's the point... What's overs to the Panthers isn't necessarily overs to the Warriors.

 

[franklin2323]

Overs to you perhaps... Every clubs situation is different.

That's the point... What's overs to the Panthers isn't necessarily overs to the Warriors.

Of course it is his personal opinion. RTS trended for a day and a half on twitter so he had to comment on it in his opinion

 

[alien]

All the NRL need do is force every club to spend a required amount developing juniors, doesn't matter if it's a thousand miles away or next door. If a club happens to be in a large catchment area and local junior clubs want to do their thing so be it. Any junior club anywhere is entitled to ask the NRL for a handout if it is not aided by an NRL club

All 'junior' means is 'young', not f**king 'ball and chain'. Players need to be found from the remotest areas and those areas need promoting. Clubs sitting on their arse and expecting mums and dads to owe them allegiance is carcinogenic

agree 100%

 

[Perth Red]

But they are, in fact the clubs who are bleating are probably spending the least as the leagues clubs are funding the Jnr programs. Souths, Melbourne etc without leagues clubs are funding it out of their nrl club bottom line. Panthers, Canberra etc are funded by the leagues clubs not the nrl club.

 

[franklin2323]

But they are, in fact the clubs who are bleating are probably spending the least as the leagues clubs are funding the Jnr programs. Souths, Melbourne etc without leagues clubs are funding it out of their nrl club bottom line. Panthers, Canberra etc are funded by the leagues clubs not the nrl club.

That's the model they set up. What if Russell Crowe stopped funding Souths? The no correct funding model for NRL clubs

 

[Captain Apollo]

But they are, in fact the clubs who are bleating are probably spending the least as the leagues clubs are funding the Jnr programs. Souths, Melbourne etc without leagues clubs are funding it out of their nrl club bottom line. Panthers, Canberra etc are funded by the leagues clubs not the nrl club.

South Sydney Junior Rugby League is funded by Souths Juniors Leagues Club which is one of the biggest and most affluent leagues clubs in Sydney. They are a completely separate entity from the NRL club and are completely independent. Has been that way for decades.

 

[POPEYE]

What the NRL has to do is attract as many juniors to the game as possible, away from other codes. Best way to do that is have juniors believe they could be another star player. Best way to do that is increase the likelihood of more star players being nurtured. Best way to do that is give clubs incentives to produce star players. Best way to do that is protect clubs from poachers or at least make it hard for them. Best way to do that is allow clubs who introduce new players to the NRL more bargaining power than poachers

Reward good coaching, reward taking a chance on novice players and the game will look after itself

 

[yobbo84]

That's the model they set up. What if Russell Crowe stopped funding Souths? The no correct funding model for NRL clubs

Russell Crowe doesn't fund Souths - they are self-sufficient and turning a 7 figure profit.