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Justice for the Wests Tigers

dannyt

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I don't see how in 2022, with 4K slow mo replays, dedicated sports channels etc that fans would just "accept" the referees decision. This idea introduced by Phil Gould just doesn't pass any logic test.
Does Phil?
 

Chimp

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I see Kenty must have been given a PVL bung to support the NRL on this one - there’s no way he believes the challenge was allowed or that the escort was a correct call…. We know the NRL have a history of paying people to say things that shit their agenda (Gal got $25k for the 2 heads comment).
 

Generalzod

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Must be in the minority but based on what we’ve seen for two seasons I thought it was a fair penalty. Soft but that’s the way it is these days, he ran in off his wing and clearly across the path of the player. Soft, but such is nrl2022.
You didn’t see how Feldts change direction in the last second to milk a penalty indeed you are in the miniority.
 
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Danish

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That's a weird one in so far as a) the kicker is gaining no advantage, I.e the ball is still behind the line and b) must happen every game

Of course he is gaining an advantage. Try kicking to the right sideline with your right foot without crossing the halfway line.

you are practically restricted to kicking short to the opposite sideline of your kicking foot if you perform them legally
 

Generalzod

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I don’t blame the cowboys for what had happened but I am blaming the NRL for running this shit show. The right thing to do is to give the points to the tigers it’s the right thing to do.
 

butchmcdick

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I don’t blame the cowboys for what had happened but I am blaming the NRL for running this shift show. The right thing to do is to give the points to the ztigers it’s the right thing to do.
How often have clubs been f**ked by reffing decisions that cost them a game ? I think we all remember times our club copped it up the jacksie from the refs leading to a loss. How often in these circumstances did the NRL give the losing team the points ?

I agree the tigers deserve a reward for the game on Sunday but there is no way the NRL will change the result
 

Valheru

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I genuinely believe that the NRL are saying the captains challenge was allowed due to the Tigers supposed legal threat.This is a rare instance where you can say with 100% certainty that the tigers win the game if no captains challenge is allowed.

If they admit they got the call wrong that’s just an interpretation. If they admit there shouldn’t have been a captains challenge then that’s them not following the correct procedure.

I’m not going to pretend to be a legal expert, but I know in my line of work I’d leave myself open in that instance.

The tigers chair runs one of the countries biggest compensation law firms. You better believe he would love to take the NRL on, imagine the publicity it would give him.

100% this

He didn't even really admit the bunker got it wrong, he just said something to the effect of he was disappointed as he didn't believe there was enough in it for a penalty. They can just say that Klein did believe there was enough and such is life.

They cannot possibly admit the challenge shouldn't have been allowed because in that instance you really do have a case to reverse the result. The audio of what the bunker was saying to the ref before he called for the challenge would be very interesting although I don't expect it will see the light of day. The NRL claim Klein was just telling him that Nth QLD had a challenge up their sleeve but if it is revealed that he told the ref the play needs to be looked at well then the NRL are in serious trouble.
 

Valheru

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How often have clubs been f**ked by reffing decisions that cost them a game ? I think we all remember times our club copped it up the jacksie from the refs leading to a loss. How often in these circumstances did the NRL give the losing team the points ?

I agree the tigers deserve a reward for the game on Sunday but there is no way the NRL will change the result
I don't remember an instance like this where with 100% certainty the tigers win the game if a) the challenge isn't allowed and b) the penalty isn't given. The game was over at that point and there were no other variables that could have resulted in cowboys winning.

Even with the raiders/dragons non penalty the other week you could still argue that they may have missed the kick as unlikely as that would have been.
 

nick87

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Kicking the goal would have only pushed it to Golden Point too
I dont think the NRL can or should overturn the result. Mistakes are mistakes, it happens and you just have to eat shit on that and move on.
 

yobbo84

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😂

it’s just you

the cowboys play just as many away games as everyone else
Probably stems from the fact the Cowboys have had 10 home games already (including 4 of their last 5), plus the fact 4 of their away games have been in QLD (Broncos, Titans, Warriors, Tigers in Magic Round) and 1 in Darwin.

They'll also play the Bulldogs away in QLD next week.

To be in a competition that's 10/16 (63%) NSW teams with an uneven draw and so far only play 2/18 (11%) games in NSW is a real quirk of the draw.
 
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I heard a grab on Fox Sports News from the Wests Tigers Chairman outlining the some of their thought process behind any potential legal challenge, namely that time had expired and the game was over, so any decisions after that were basically null and void.

Now I said way up thread I think the Tigers were dudded. However, fi what I have typed above is going to be their argument in a court case to overturn the result, I have doubts it will succeed. The relevant section of the rules -

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Source: https://www.playrugbyleague.com/laws-of-the-game-community/international-13splus-laws/

So the time keepers keep the time but it expiring doesb not automatically mean the game is over until the referee blows his/her whistle in accordance with the above laws.
 

Canard

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I don't remember an instance like this where with 100% certainty the tigers win the game if a) the challenge isn't allowed and b) the penalty isn't given. The game was over at that point and there were no other variables that could have resulted in cowboys winning.

Even with the raiders/dragons non penalty the other week you could still argue that they may have missed the kick as unlikely as that would have been.

The 100% certainty thing isn't some sort of silver bullet though.

What if Holmes missed the kick? The Tigers still win.

There is a myriad of decisions made in games that could be argued affected the result.
 

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