Justice for the Wests Tigers

[Vic Mackey]

The commentators thought it was incorrect and the video referee couldn't see any evidence of a strip, so you're being incredibly dishonest by saying I am the only person whos saw it. You're downplaying this incident because it puts everything in perspective. If you're going to be obtuse and pretend it never happened then you'll lose credibility.

Your team was unlucky at the end of the game, but there's been occasions where these decisions went in your favour and helped your team win. See the 2019 game between these two clubs for an example of the referees awarding a dodgy decision in favour of the Tigers that impacted the result. Tigers fans and their coach celebrated that decision and didn't offer to concede the premiership points to the Cowboys.

I didn’t realise the commentators were the attributers of right and wrong decisions. The video referee at no stage said ‘there is no evidence of a strip’ if he did he would have over turned it. You just lying now.

Every single incident you are mentioning could have effected the game in various ways, we will never know.

Let me ask you this one question, and really this is all that matters. If Ashley Klein says there was no escort in the final play, which the NRL have confirmed would have been the correct decision, who wins the game?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There was nothing to challenge, because the ref made no decision

I still don't understand what went down, but I've become accustomed to the NRL making a mockery of itself on and off the field. There will be more howlers by referees just like the sun will rise in the morning and set in the evening.

It's almost like people don't give a f**k about this sort of thing unless it's a Sydney team involved.

That's exactly what it is. The Sydney media knows it can sell a lot of papers by running this story. No one in Sydney would buy a paper to read a story about the Cowboys, Titans, Broncos, Raiders, Storm or Warriors losing due to a howler from the ref. They bring out an annual story about the North Sydney Bears for this reason

That '04 game will haunt me til I die.

NQ were stooged throughout the whole afternoon, I don't play the blame the ref card but that game was f**king criminal by Simpkins.

Simpkins had a history of dudding the Cowboys. He was the video ref in the semi final against Manly in 2012. He awarded a try to Manly after a knock on by Foran in the lead-up. It was karmic though as Graham raked the ball illegally earlier in the half and we got a try from it.

Wasn't he the video ref a few years later when Foran ran a blatant shepherd to score a try against the Cowboys and it wasn't penalised?

I didn’t realise the commentators were the attributers of right and wrong decisions. The video referee at no stage said ‘there is no evidence of a strip’ if he did he would have over turned it. You just lying now.

Every single incident you are mentioning could have effected the game in various ways, we will never know.

Let me ask you this one question, and really this is all that matters. If Ashley Klein says there was no escort in the final play, which the NRL have confirmed would have been the correct decision, who wins the game?

The video ref said the evidence was inconclusive, hence the reason he allowed the Cowboys to retain their challenge. That means he couldn't see a strip but couldn't find enough counterevidence to overrule the onfield decision.

If Klein says there's no strip by Gilbert then Cowboys win 25-24 and there's no reason for Klein to rule on the escort.

 

[Vic Mackey]

I still don't understand what went down, but I've become accustomed to the NRL making a mockery of itself on and off the field. There will be more howlers by referees just like the sun will rise in the morning and set in the evening.

That's exactly what it is. The Sydney media knows it can sell a lot of papers by running this story. No one in Sydney would buy a paper to read a story about the Cowboys, Titans, Broncos, Raiders, Storm or Warriors losing due to a howler from the ref. They bring out an annual story about the North Sydney Bears for this reason


Simpkins had a history of dudding the Cowboys. He was the video ref in the semi final against Manly in 2012. He awarded a try to Manly after a knock on by Foran in the lead-up. It was karmic though as Graham raked the ball illegally earlier in the half and we got a try from it.

Wasn't he the video ref a few years later when Foran ran a blatant shepherd to score a try against the Cowboys and it wasn't penalised?


The video ref said the evidence was inconclusive, hence the reason he allowed the Cowboys to retain their challenge. That means he couldn't see a strip but couldn't find enough counterevidence to overrule the onfield decision.

If Klein says there's no strip by Gilbert then Cowboys win 25-24 and there's no reason for Klein to rule on the escort.

your refusal to answer says everything I needed

 

[simmo05]

Yes, I have posted on that. It was Holmes and the way he kicked off, it was offside. This isnt what I posted about, it was the timing of the Tamou challenge.
The bunker calls the Cowboys 'onside at the kick off'.
Once he has done that it cannot be challenged.
Tamou then challenges for the offside AFTER THE BUNKERS DECISION, he cannot challenge the offside as the bunker has ruled them all on side.
Even so, Klein obviously didnt check the kicker for being off side, like I said, he erred in two places.
If Tamou in some way has challenged for the offside before it goes up to the bunker then the transcripts will show that.

That's the other shit thing, Townsend challenged the alleged escort. No ref decision on that so what is he challenging? But why is the ref checking offside when the challenge is the escort? The merkin just needs to check the f**king escort

 

[bad boy bubby]

That's the other shit thing, Townsend challenged the alleged escort. No ref decision on that so what is he challenging? But why is the ref checking offside when the challenge is the escort? The merkin just needs to check the f**king escort

they checked the whole set play, like in a try situation. It started from the kick off.
I cant tell you why it changes from certain situations

 

[simmo05]

they checked the whole set play, like in a try situation. It started from the kick off.
I cant tell you why it changes from certain situations

Yeah but it shouldn't. If you check the put down that's the challenge. Or the knock on. Not the entire play, or they should be allowed to challenge the whole bloody play

 

[bad boy bubby]

Yeah but it shouldn't. If you check the put down that's the challenge. Or the knock on. Not the entire play, or they should be allowed to challenge the whole bloody play

I feel for your team mate.
In this case it was a good option to check it, except the fool in the box didn't check every player, just the runners.
I daresay that if he didn't check the kicker that time good chance he may not have checked the kicker any other time either.

 

[some11]

Referee Klein dropped for Tigers-Cowboys howler

Ashley Klein has been dropped following his controversial decision to award North Queensland a penalty after the siren against Wests Tigers.

www.smh.com.au

Why is he being stood down if the NRL said nothing wrong happened here.

 

[some11]

Can someone educate me please I thought you were given 10 seconds for a captain to challenge a refs decision, it took longer than that for Chad to to indicate he wanted the incident reviewed.

NRL broke its own rules and is arse covering. You won't get an explanation.

 

[Perth Red]

Why is he being stood down if the NRL said nothing wrong happened here.

because nrl360 said so

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Having watched the footage many times, all I can say is...

Go that Cowboys! Queenslander!!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

your refusal to answer says everything I needed

I didn't answer your question because it was a classic case of cherry picking to suit your agenda. I stopped taking you seriously when you said a bad refereeing decision that occurs during the first 79min59 of a game has no bearing on the result.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

because nrl360 said so

PK defended him, didn’t he?

 

[The Rosco]

they checked the whole set play, like in a try situation. It started from the kick off.
I cant tell you why it changes from certain situations

Well, they didn't check the whole set play as they should have.
Coz then they would have seen Val stand in front of the line for his kick, which breaches the rules and so the game stops right there. No ifs, buts, or "what about when we got dudded in the 35th minute in '07"
Game over , by the rules, right there. Let alone no ref ruling to challenge. Let alone no escort. Let alone Felched diving, then laughing like a merkin.
Anyway, the passage of time has healed my bitterness, as you obviously see.
I get why some bring up "we were dudded" . . . but the truth of this one is that if not for any of the wrong rulings, the game is over without the possibility of any other outcome. I can't recall this happening ever before. When you got robbed in '06, the game still had time to run and because of that variable, you don't know what the outcome of the game would have been.

 

[Tiger Shark]

Why is he being stood down if the NRL said nothing wrong happened here.

But they did say something wrong happened. They believe the error was the rewarding of a penalty to the Cowboys. So he was dropped.

They believe the whole captains challenge part was correct.

Still an absolute joke and I hope the Tigers and Cowboys get appropriate Karma coming their way this year.

 

[bad boy bubby]

Well, they didn't check the whole set play as they should have.
Coz then they would have seen Val stand in front of the line for his kick, which breaches the rules and so the game stops right there. No ifs, buts, or "what about when we got dudded in the 35th minute in '07"
Game over , by the rules, right there. Let alone no ref ruling to challenge. Let alone no escort. Let alone Felched diving, then laughing like a merkin.
Anyway, the passage of time has healed my bitterness, as you obviously see.
I get why some bring up "we were dudded" . . . but the truth of this one is that if not for any of the wrong rulings, the game is over without the possibility of any other outcome. I can't recall this happening ever before. When you got robbed in '06, the game still had time to run and because of that variable, you don't know what the outcome of the game would have been.

They did check it, Klein says 'all onside'. Watch the replay of the bunker call, he clearly says it.
He f**ked up badly, TWICE.
I'm on your side in this.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Former top referee whacks NRL 'smother job'

'I can't believe what I saw'

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[Pink Panther]

Lies, malicious lies, counter claims, cover ups, back flips and more lies.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Well, they didn't check the whole set play as they should have.
Coz then they would have seen Val stand in front of the line for his kick, which breaches the rules and so the game stops right there. No ifs, buts, or "what about when we got dudded in the 35th minute in '07"
Game over , by the rules, right there. Let alone no ref ruling to challenge. Let alone no escort. Let alone Felched diving, then laughing like a merkin.
Anyway, the passage of time has healed my bitterness, as you obviously see.
I get why some bring up "we were dudded" . . . but the truth of this one is that if not for any of the wrong rulings, the game is over without the possibility of any other outcome. I can't recall this happening ever before. When you got robbed in '06, the game still had time to run and because of that variable, you don't know what the outcome of the game would have been.

The escort ruling is subjective and up to the referee's interpretation. I've seen that sort of play ruled an escort by other referees and let go on other occasions. It's a classic 50/50.

 

[myrrh ken]

The escort ruling is subjective and up to the referee's interpretation. I've seen that sort of play ruled an escort by other referees and let go on other occasions. It's a classic 50/50.

this is true. it was a soft penalty and it shouldn't've been given but it wasn't an out-and-out howler.

The offside thing was def a howler.

As is being able to challenge the ref's decision to blow a short whistle. Which I'm happy to be corrected on.

Given the unique circs, I would be very comfortable with a reversal of points. This won't happen again. But this is unlikely.