Justice for the Wests Tigers

[Vic Mackey]

@skeepe chammas reads LU

 

[incomparable]

Two wrongs never make anything right.

 

[GongPanther]

I like this.

I also think a change they could make tomorrow that would 100% improve the decision making and make most fans happy is for the bunker to only be allowed to watch things in normal speed. (I personally would go even further and say the bunker should only be allowed to watch things in fast speed with Benny Hill music dubbed over it, but one step at a time)….

Like a few of us have been advocating, get rid of the bunker, and simplify the whole process by going back and reverting to having the one ref with two 10 yard refs. And have everyone from fans, to the clubs and to the media that what the referee's decision on field is, is final.

Taking pressure off the refs is one of the important big issues in our game ATM, and going back to the roles of old school reffing will be better for all across the board. But just like the current setup, we still might have to accept that mistakes will happen, and likely more so.

But like I mentioned in another thread, the NRL are not going to get rid of their billboard (try/no try) cash-cow.

 

[GongPanther]

I genuinely believe that the NRL are saying the captains challenge was allowed due to the Tigers supposed legal threat.This is a rare instance where you can say with 100% certainty that the tigers win the game if no captains challenge is allowed.

If they admit they got the call wrong that’s just an interpretation. If they admit there shouldn’t have been a captains challenge then that’s them not following the correct procedure.

I’m not going to pretend to be a legal expert, but I know in my line of work I’d leave myself open in that instance.

The tigers chair runs one of the countries biggest compensation law firms. You better believe he would love to take the NRL on, imagine the publicity it would give him.

Possible. Showing ones hand wasn't the thing to do.

 

[GongPanther]

You might have a point if Wests Tigers weren't awarded a penalty for a lost ball that resulted in a penalty goal just after half time. That decision cancels out the dud one at the end. It's a matter of two wrongs making a right.

Fair point.

 

[Canard]

Like a few of us have been advocating, get rid of the bunker, and simplify the whole process by going back and reverting to having the one ref with two 10 yard refs. And have everyone from fans, to the clubs and to the media that what the referee's decision on field is, is final.

Taking pressure off the refs is one of the important big issues in our game ATM, and going back to the roles of old school reffing will be better for all across the board. But just like the current setup, we still might have to accept that mistakes will happen, and likely more so.

But like I mentioned in another thread, the NRL are not going to get rid of their billboard (try/no try) cash-cow.

I don't see how in 2022, with 4K slow mo replays, dedicated sports channels etc that fans would just "accept" the referees decision. This idea introduced by Phil Gould just doesn't pass any logic test.

 

[Marshall_magic]

I don't see how in 2022, with 4K slow mo replays that fans would just "accept" the referees decision. This idea introduced by Phil Gould just doesn't pass any logic test.

this, the only reason to go no tech is pretty much saying you have no faith in your officials to get it right.

 

[Canard]

That's a weird one in so far as a) the kicker is gaining no advantage, I.e the ball is still behind the line and b) must happen every game

 

[GongPanther]

this, the only reason to go no tech is pretty much saying you have no faith in your officials to get it right.

I assume you're referring to the officials in the bunker right? And after all the money initially spent on it, and the setting up logistics etc, and replacing TVs and equipment every season (love to be where the skips are when they throw away the old TVs) , it's another reason to see why there will always be the NRLs logic behind keeping the bunker.

 

[some11]

I genuinely believe that the NRL are saying the captains challenge was allowed due to the Tigers supposed legal threat.This is a rare instance where you can say with 100% certainty that the tigers win the game if no captains challenge is allowed.

If they admit they got the call wrong that’s just an interpretation. If they admit there shouldn’t have been a captains challenge then that’s them not following the correct procedure.

I’m not going to pretend to be a legal expert, but I know in my line of work I’d leave myself open in that instance.

The tigers chair runs one of the countries biggest compensation law firms. You better believe he would love to take the NRL on, imagine the publicity it would give him.

The only reason Mercedes didn't proceed with it's court case against the FIA after last year's finale blunder was because the FIA offered them a fig leaf in private.

If the NRL aren't willing to offer the Tigers something behind closed doors then they should absolutely proceed.

The condescension from annusley is pretty damning.

 

[skeepe]

@skeepe chammas reads LU

Called it earlier today

Hi Michael Chammas. Thanks for reading. Big fan.

 

[gerg]

The fact that Annesley has doubled down on this - suggesting the process was correct - when anybody who watched it knows it was absolute bullshit, makes his position untenable. He needs to be sacked immediately.

 

[Maximus]

There is plenty of decision at the end of close games that the NRL come out later and admit they get wrong.

I don't think an ambulance chaser is the best legal mind when it comes to this specific issue.

Are you really suggesting that a ref mistake after full time that directly changes the result is the same as a ref mistake with 5 mins to go?

 

[Marshall_magic]

I assume you're referring to the officials in the bunker right? And after all the money initially spent on it, and the setting up logistics etc, and replacing TVs and equipment every season (love to be where the skips are when they throw away the old TVs) , it's another reason to see why there will always be the NRLs logic behind keeping the bunker.

yes, if you can’t back a ref to watch footage and enforce the rules they are paid to enforce, then what can you back them to do?

 

[colly]

Fresh twist in Tigers saga: Holmes should’ve been penalised for illegal kick-off

The NRL has admitted the call that cost the Tigers a stunning win was wrong. Now they have another problem.

www.smh.com.au

So the Captain challenge by James Tamou was NOT allowed claiming the kick was illegal and called offside..Ref says already cleared.....mmmmm

 

[Perth Red]

Must be in the minority but based on what we’ve seen for two seasons I thought it was a fair penalty. Soft but that’s the way it is these days, he ran in off his wing and clearly across the path of the player. Soft, but such is nrl2022.

 

[Iamback]

Like a few of us have been advocating, get rid of the bunker, and simplify the whole process by going back and reverting to having the one ref with two 10 yard refs. And have everyone from fans, to the clubs and to the media that what the referee's decision on field is, is final.

Taking pressure off the refs is one of the important big issues in our game ATM, and going back to the roles of old school reffing will be better for all across the board. But just like the current setup, we still might have to accept that mistakes will happen, and likely more so.

But like I mentioned in another thread, the NRL are not going to get rid of their billboard (try/no try) cash-cow.

The amount of errors proves we need the bunker. Just need refs to follow the rules

 

[Slackboy72]

Two wrongs never make anything right.

Well we already had four wrongs in this. One more can't hurt.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Must be in the minority but based on what we’ve seen for two seasons I thought it was a fair penalty. Soft but that’s the way it is these days, he ran in off his wing and clearly across the path of the player. Soft, but such is nrl2022.

He’s allowed to contest the ball
There’s no rule that says he has to stay on the wing

Feldt ran into him

 

[skeepe]

Must be in the minority but based on what we’ve seen for two seasons I thought it was a fair penalty. Soft but that’s the way it is these days, he ran in off his wing and clearly across the path of the player. Soft, but such is nrl2022.

How do you consistently have shit take after shit take? It’s an art form.