Kapow - sandow

[Poupou Escobar]

You can only hide your halfback so much, though I'm surprised he defended on the left last night. What was Lang thinking, moving Sandow over near MacDougall and Uate?

Anyway, if he played in a team with better ball control, his defence wouldn't be such an issue. Atrocious ball control has been a feature of Souths for several years, which isn't Sandow's fault - last night he only made one error which is standard for him. He did miss 11 tackles though.

On the other side of the ball he was once again very good - 1 LB, 1 LBA and 2 TAs. People say he won't fit in over here; I reckon he'll go much better in a more structured team. It doesn't mean he won't be unleashed in certain parts of the field at certain points in the game. It just means he'll get better defensive support in a team that controls the ball better.

 

[ceagle]

Sorry but his defense is pathetic. In my honest opinion there would be over 8 halfbacks I would prefer then him. He lets in more tries or tries resulting from big breaks then he sets up for his team.

 

[Kornstar]

Sorry but his defense is pathetic. In my honest opinion there would be over 8 halfbacks I would prefer then him. He lets in more tries or tries resulting from big breaks then he sets up for his team.

Still about 20 times better then what we currently have!

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Sorry but his defense is pathetic. In my honest opinion there would be over 8 halfbacks I would prefer then him. He lets in more tries or tries resulting from big breaks then he sets up for his team.

Well we are pretty excited about him.

But yes look at who we've currently got. Why wouldn't we be excited.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sorry but his defense is pathetic. In my honest opinion there would be over 8 halfbacks I would prefer then him. He lets in more tries or tries resulting from big breaks then he sets up for his team.

That's because he plays in the worst possible team for him. Honestly, Souths would have gone better with Jeff Robson this year, and next year Sandow will be supported much better in defence.

 

[Noa]

I dont know how anyone can expect Sandow to thrive in Souths defensive structure. Lang has him defending at center where you isolated 1 on 1 more then any other position and usually up against the other teams 1st or 2nd best attacking player. Be better off moving him 1 or 2 more in which means the help will get there alot sooner.

 

[BranVan3000]

That's because he plays in the worst possible team for him. Honestly, Souths would have gone better with Jeff Robson this year, and next year Sandow will be supported much better in defence.

Our defence is shit, but you're deluded if you think yours has been any better, or that Sandow will stop being a turn style when he gets to Parra. Frankly your team next year isn't going to be all that different to Souths at all. Maybe a bit less strike power

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Our defence is shit, but you're deluded if you think yours has been any better, or that Sandow will stop being a turn style when he gets to Parra. Frankly your team next year isn't going to be all that different to Souths at all. Maybe a bit less strike power

Our team will be heaps better than the 2011 Souths.

And your team will be worse than this year.

 

[BranVan3000]

Our team will be heaps better than the 2011 Souths.

And your team will be worse than this year.

And why is that? Besides fullback, assuming that is where Hayne will play, 2011 Souths beats 2012 Eels in every facet

 

[Maroubra Eel]

And why is that? Besides fullback, assuming that is where Hayne will play, 2011 Souths beats 2012 Eels in every facet

Our team will be much stronger and well balanced with the addition of Sandow and Tonga.

I believe Souths will struggle in the halves just like Parra have the last few years.

I could be wrong but, I usually am.

 

[lingard]

I know that but he was always just a good solid player. Personally, I think the Dally M's are a joke anyway judged by hacks.

I just think comparing Dykes to Sandow is a long bow.

Adam Dykes was a terrific player - before he came to Parramatta and after he left Parramatta. Brian Smith tried to turn him into a half-back. Brian Smith f**ked him up. Brian Smith f**ked Clinton Shifkofski up. Brian Smith f**ked P.J. Marshall up. Brian Smith f**ked Jamie Lyon up. Brian Smith f**ked Parramatta up. Now he`s f**ked Easts up. Brian Smith is a f**k up.

 

[BranVan3000]

Eels 12 vs. Souths 11 IMO

Hayne >> Wesser
Burt < Merritt
Loko? < Farrell
W. Tonga << Inglis
E. Tonga = McQueen
B. Roberts < Sutton
Sandow = Sandow
Mannah = Stuart
Keating <<< Luke
Moimoi > Asotasi (only due to injury frequency)
Hindmarsh < S. Burgess
B. Smith <<< D. Taylor
R. Maitua < Crocker

 

[caylo]

And why is that? Besides fullback, assuming that is where Hayne will play, 2011 Souths beats 2012 Eels in every facet

Hardly, our pack is much better then Souths. Even with Asotasi and Burgess in the team our Props are much better then anything you guys have produced and Taylor is the only player who has stepped up. Also why we may not have Inglis, Tonga is not that far off and Roberts is a much better 5-8 then Sutton. Sutton at his best is very good but for every good thing he does there is 1000 dumb plays and so many times I've seen him ruin attacking plays.

Outside of that parra's defense has resolve and they have the ability to grind and south's don't. When ever the game is in the balance the team drops their load and more times then not Sutton has been the main culprit.

 

[BranVan3000]

Our team will be much stronger and well balanced with the addition of Sandow and Tonga.

I believe Souths will struggle in the halves just like Parra have the last few years.

I could be wrong but, I usually am.

We probably will struggle with a half back, but we are strong everywhere else. Which was my point, as strong as we are everywhere else, Sandow couldn't take us to the finals. The platform was there, he just isn't consistent enough

In any case, after four years of the same treading water I am glad we are moving on from Sandow and to a competent coach. We need a fresh start. Hopefully our coach has some plans for the halfback role

 

[Maroubra Eel]

I like Souths. They would be my 2nd favorite team if I had to choose.

But I just don't see a good 2012 for them.

 

[ParraSteve]

He needs to get those silly shoulder charges out of his game

 

[Tizzun]

McGuire will coach some toughness and resolve into the Rabbits. They'll be a better defensive outfit next year, I can see them being above us on the ladder come the finals in 2012.

 

[BranVan3000]

Hardly, our pack is much better then Souths. Even with Asotasi and Burgess in the team our Props are much better then anything you guys have produced and Taylor is the only player who has stepped up. Also why we may not have Inglis, Tonga is not that far off and Roberts is a much better 5-8 then Sutton. Sutton at his best is very good but for every good thing he does there is 1000 dumb plays and so many times I've seen him ruin attacking plays.

Outside of that parra's defense has resolve and they have the ability to grind and south's don't. When ever the game is in the balance the team drops their load and more times then not Sutton has been the main culprit.

Lies and myths. You do have good props, but so do we. Stuart was one of the better props of the past five years, huge meter eat and not much flash, in every tackle. I put Moimoi over Asotasi due to his injury frequency, but he was in career best form this year. Tonga is no Inglis, but a great player.

Roberts? You're joking right? He is an NSW Cup player, and even more of an enigma than Sutton. I'm guessing you really don't know anything about Roberts. Have fun catching the ball when he throws them into the stands though. Sutton has his own problems, but he is better than Roberts.

Sadly for Sandow, he'd be best outside an organising 5/8. He is going from partnering with an enigma at Souths to partnering with a worse one at the Eels. Sutton has problems, but dropping the ball is rarely one of them. His lack of involvement and arm grab tackles frustrates us fans, not his actual ball playing and running.

 

[caylo]

Eels 12 vs. Souths 11 IMO

Hayne >> Wesser
Burt < Merritt
Loko? < Farrell
W. Tonga << Inglis
E. Tonga = McQueen
B. Roberts < Sutton
Sandow = Sandow
Mannah = Stuart
Keating <<< Luke
Moimoi > Asotasi (only due to injury frequency)
Hindmarsh < S. Burgess
B. Smith <<< D. Taylor
R. Maitua < Crocker

Hayne >> Wesser
Burt < Merritt
Loko = Farrell
W. Tonga < Inglis
E. Tonga = McQueen
B. Roberts > Sutton
Sandow = Sandow
Mannah >> Stuart
Keating <<< Luke
Moimoi >>> Asotasi (even without injury. Stop living in 2005)
R. Maitua < S. Burgess (by next year Matuia could be even better though)
B. Smith << D. Taylor
Hindmarsh >>> Crocker (comparing these two is fairer because they play the same role irrespective of the numbers on their back. Burgess is a wide running backrower and hindy plays through the middle, dumb comparison.)

Bench:
Poore >>> McPherson
Shakelton > Pettybourne
OHanlan = Lowe
Allgood = Geddes

Like I said, your backline is slightly better and but the Eels own the Rabbitohs up front even with Asotasi and Burgess in the line up, Spine equal tbh. Problem with your analysis is that Asotasi, Burgess, Taylor and Crocker all missed large parts of the season and when souths got a consistent team on the field they caused havoc. Also the ee;s bench is so much better and we were not far off this year just losing to teams like Manly (scored try in last 3min), Melbourne (18-0 up), St George (draw) etc.

 

[BranVan3000]

I like Souths. They would be my 2nd favorite team if I had to choose.

But I just don't see a good 2012 for them.

It all depends on our halves. Reynolds has potential, he's definitely a good half IMO but I'd be a lot more confident if he wasn't injured all this year. Maguire is on his way to winning a second Premiership in the SL. And supposedly he developed Cronk. I think that may just be bullshit though.

Frankly I think we got the better of the two Bellamy apprentices. In any case we'll look like a totally different team next year.